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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:22 AM
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Warrior's Walk in Ft. Stewart, GA. This is so wrong......
I have a problem with this memorial stating they died for "Iraqi freedom". That is not what we were told when we sent them to their deaths. This war was about a non-existent imminent threat to our country from non-existent WMD from a nonthreatening, contained little dictator.

I wonder how the families feel when they read these markers. Surely this must bother a few of them. Why not just Iraq War? Did they write operation "Vietnam Freedom" on memorials in the 60's?



A rose lies next to Chief Warrant Officer II Steven E. Shephard's granite memorial Thursday, Aug. 18, 2005, at Fort Stewart, Ga., during a tree dedication ceremony along Warriors' Walk to honor soldiers recently killed while serving in Iraq. At least 53 soldiers of the Fort Stewart-based 3rd Infantry have died since the division returned to Iraq in February, surpassing the 42 deaths it suffered during the 2003 invasion of Baghdad. (AP Photo/Stephen Morton)



Sgt. Harold Pinkava removes the cover from Sgt. Arthur R. McGill's granite memorial, Thursday, Aug. 18, 2005, at Fort Stewart, Ga., during a tree dedication ceremony along Warriors' Walk to honor soldiers recently killed in action in Iraq. At least 53 soldiers of the Fort Stewart-based 3rd Infantry have died since the division returned to Iraq in February, surpassing the 42 deaths it suffered during the 2003 invasion of Baghdad. (AP Photo/Stephen Morton)

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:27 AM
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1. What the troops died for, and what Bush invaded for, are two different
things. ONE of the dozen or so evasions Bush gave for going into Iraq was to liberate them from Iraq. His official reasons filed with Congress and the UN were WMDs and connections to 9-11--both debunked, obviously, even before the invasion--but he was telling us that we were there to liberate Iraq, and no doubt our troops believed in that noble cause.

They deserve honor. It's BushCo who deserves scorn--not to mention conviction and imprisonment, at least.

Iraqi Freedom was the name of the operation, btw.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:32 AM
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6. I know it was the name and it was bogus and that
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 11:44 AM by leftchick
it what I find so wrong. There were operation names during Vietnam as well and I don't remember cliches like this in memorials. I just believe 'Iraq War' would have been better.

When our soldiers die it should be in defense of our country.

:(
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:42 AM
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11. I understand what you mean
I don't really disagree, they should have had had something more honest and less propaganda-based on the stones, to truly honor the troops. However, it's just not in me to fault a tribute to the troops who died in the war. No doubt they believed they were fighting for good. It's not their fault they were used like that.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:29 AM
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2. I think it is because
it was called Operation Iraqi Freedom. I don't agree with it; but that may be the reason.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:32 AM
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5. Maybe it should be renamed.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:34 AM
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8. keep it simple with IRAQ WAR.
because that is what it is and was for them.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:43 AM
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13. Iraq Invasion
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:30 AM
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3. I think that's because that is / was the name of the Operation they were
on when they died. A bad name I know, but I don't think that its being done to state "this guy died to bring freedom to Iraqi's". But more or less saying that he was killed during Operation Iraqi Freedom.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:30 AM
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4. It's a typo: they meant Free Drums
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:33 AM
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7. "Operation Iraqi Free Dumb"?
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:37 AM
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9. Operation Iraqi Liberation
They couldn't really name the war this for two reasons:

1) The Soviets called their invasions "liberations." Someone besides me must remember that.

and

2) When you see a guy walking around in a war-supporting t-shirt the name of the operation is usually abbreviated. The first shirt with "OIL" on it would have consigned Bush to the dustbin of history.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:39 AM
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10. "Iraqi Illegal Occupation -Bloody Quagmire"
?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:45 AM
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14. that is the most honest
but for the sake of the dead and their families I think Iraq War will do. :(
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:43 AM
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12. islamic constitutional law, less freedom than with saddam,
let it be known. the more it looks like we are going ot allow islamic law, all rights to women squashed, this iraqi freedom too, is another hollow statement, flat out lie
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:46 AM
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15. exactly...
I know if one of them was a loved one of mine I would be furious.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:57 AM
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16. a while ago right started throwing out, freedom for iraq as reason
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 11:58 AM by seabeyond
#10 for going ot war. that is not true accepting islamic law. this has to go along the wayside with wmd's and 9/11 and nuclear capabilities and drones and aluminum tubes


on edit: i see bush is now back to 9/11
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 12:04 PM
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17. 9/11 and the horrible "we are fighting them there, blah blah"
from todays radio address....

<snip>

We have combated terrorists on the home front by disrupting terror cells and their financial support networks. We're fighting the terrorists in Afghanistan, Iraq, and around the world, striking them in foreign lands before they can attack us here at home. And we're spreading the hope of freedom across the broader Middle East. By advancing the cause of liberty in a troubled region, we are bringing security to our own citizens and laying the foundations of peace for our children and grandchildren.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 12:45 PM
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18. we are fighting them there, blah blah
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 01:07 PM by seabeyond
the first time i heard this, a year ago spring. i was sitting in chapel with a fundie friend talking about all this. she said this to me. my mouth dropped. first words out of my mouth, what cowards we are. what cowards we are. better thousands other die to aviod any death of us, on this soil. how unchristian is that. i was just amazed and shocked that anyone counting themselves part of the human race could use this as argument in killing others. how arrogant of a people are we
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