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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:09 PM
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A freeper just knocked on my door...
I was having dinner and there was this very light tapping on my door. It turns out to be the repuke cadidate for town supervisor, and guess what? He wants my vote!

First of all, if I were him, I would have approached the door carefully. There is an Impeach Bush sign in my window, and my car has plenty of anti-bush stickers on it to indicate where I stand on this whole nasty mess.

I ask him if he supports the pResident. His answer? Well, do we really need to ask? I told him I was a registered dem and would not be allowed to vote in the upcoming primary on 9/15, but still, he wanted to talk. :wtf:

I was trying so hard to just be as civil as I could without screaming that I would rather swallow razor blades than be standing in my own doorway forced to engage with him. Should I have just told him to go to hell, or try to coexist peacefully in my very RED town in a BLUE state.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:10 PM
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1. do what you did...
tell him your opinion and then ask him nicely to leave...

I find it more uplifting to have better manners than freepers...
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:11 PM
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2. That's a nice way to go at it. :^)
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:22 PM
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13. I always offer the mormons a beer.... and drink one while they're there.
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #13
22. Oh that's a great one!!!!!!
I don't even drink, but maybe I should keep a cold six-pack in the fridge! :rofl:
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. You must also scratch inappropriately....
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #29
34. Well, I must admit I am not looking my best right now
Maybe some nose picking would have done the trick...:rofl:
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:10 PM
Response to Reply #29
43. While scratching, mention how much you hate fleas. n/t
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #29
46. I like popping in some
porn, drinking a beer, and smoking a cigar. Wearing nothing but my whitey tighties and a "Wifebeater" T-shirt. I keep them all ready for the Baptist "Dare to Share" weekend in the spring.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:20 AM
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58. they wanna share..... give 'em your best.
It'd be the cat's meow if you had a "skid mark" too.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #13
31. ...
:spray: :rofl:
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musical_soul Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #1
49. Good manners.
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 08:42 PM by musical_soul
My secret weapon against freepers. It's the only thing I find that works.

I'd still shut the door on an aggressive one.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 08:57 AM
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60. Hi musical_soul!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:11 PM
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3. Tell him you'll give him your vote...
... if he switches parties.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #3
54. ...Or if he'll repudiate the Republicans' platform....
...and call for an end to preemptive war.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:12 PM
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4. I guess you have to give him points for bravery
I'm always impressed by those who are willing to continue a respectful discussion even with those who are not of their viewpoint or affiliation.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:14 PM
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6. true enough
I suppose though, my house is one of the very few in this area that does not have his lawn sign already up, so he felt he had to try. Of course, my local town dems have encountered a "backorder" on their signs so I am truly living in Elephant Hell.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:42 PM
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26. I'm well familiar with Elephant hell
I live in Kearney, Nebraska.


Here's a recent photo of my neighbors place.



Our latest big fancy too-doo and parade.

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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #26
30. I lived in Elephant Hell for too long
I went to college in Ripon, WI, the birthplace of the Republican Party.

http://www.cityofripon.com/index.asp?Type=B_PR&SEC={A435E48B-61AE-4A30-B4A8-E75475D15846}&DE={B429788B-245A-4C7E-BE76-734B74A80BF9}


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VPStoltz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #30
42. But one must remember the original Republican Party
was 180 degrees differenct from the one we have to put up with now. Even look back as far as T. Roosevelt and you can see there actually were living, thinking minds in the party at one time.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. Unfortunately you are 100% correct. Why oh why couldn't
they have just stuck to their original message?
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:13 PM
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5. I agree, you did the best you could with a difficult situation...
BTW, was he wearing glasses? Is that how he missed all of your anti-shrub stickers and such?

Good for you for standing up for what you believe in--in spite of someone trying to seduce you to the dark side. :hi:
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:17 PM
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7. Nope. no glasses, just a big american flag lapel pin!
I think my mom would have been proud that I handled it that way. She is just as much of a liberal dem as I am, but having recently moved to the Dominican Republic, she has adopted a very laid back approach to everything, and has recently expressed some concern that I am still "too angry".:shrug:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #7
33. Oh WHY do they ALWAYS have flags on their lapels?
Or on their cars, shirts, etc.? They have made me dislike the flag and mistrust anyone that is a tad too enthusiastic in displaying it.

:banghead:
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #33
39. Isn't that the truth.
My 6 year old daughter has been gearing up for the march in Washington and is so excited about carring her huge flag and chanting "Hey Hey, Ho Ho, President Bush has got to go", but I keep trying to tell her that we will encounter resistance. At the vigil on Wednesday night we ran into the freeper who accosted us in the grocery parking lot and she was so confused by his tirade about how we hate america, etc. She pointed out that she loves her flag.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #39
55. Oh--poor little thing. It is confusing, even to us grown ups...
It's always confusing and frustrating to me, when someone tells me that I hate the country, just because I don't believe what they do. I thought that was one of the principles this country was founded on. But apparently unless you are in lock step with the rest of them, they really don't want to hear what you have to say...

I hope you guys have a good and most importantly SAFE time at the march in Washington. Raise a little hell for me, too. But again, be careful!

:hi:
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:17 PM
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8. I would haver to turn loose my 4 legged Piranhas loose.
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 07:18 PM by bahrbearian
I have 4 of them and they are better for that then my Rottweilers.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. The funny thing is that I am dogsitting for Distressed American
and his pooch is a crazy barker, and even that did not deter the evil one.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #9
14. I can't believe he still wanted to talk to you after you told him
you couldn't vote in the primary, ,,No one else to talk too?
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:24 PM
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17. I guess not. Perhaps I was too nice, but in my heart of hearts
I want to change their perception of us as crazy American haters.
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:19 PM
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10. Should have asked him why he isn't in Iraq....
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. I hate to say it, but he was too old.
He insisted that I take his literature, which is now being mauled by my cat.
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. just a thought!
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. Perhaps I should have asked about his children or granchildren
although then he may have wanted to talk more.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #15
32. Too bad....I was going to suggest you do what a friend of mine
does to dissuage Jehovah's Witnesses - put a blood donor sticker over the doorbell. And then ask him if he was willing to shed some blood, in say...oh - I don't know...Iraq?

I feel kind of bad about the JW reference, though...as loony as I find their religion to be, my JW neighbor across the street was the first person to show up with crackers and a plate of cheese and cold cuts the night that my spouse died.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #32
36. I have a pat response for the JW and the new
warehouse church that has been sending their 16 year old blond girls to canvass the neighborhood. It usually involves "Closer to God" by NIN blaring from the stereo. I can see them coming a mile away.

I am SO sorry to hear about your spouse.:hug:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #32
56. I just found out last year that the JW's
don't vote. I was surprised, never knew in all my years.

I once gave them an article titled, "Bush Voting Christians Have Lost Their Souls". I didn't know!!
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:19 PM
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11. I would have loved the opportunity to blister.........
his ass, yet you did the right thing. I would hope that all of us would have the nerve to knock on a strangers door. I did a lot of it last fall, and it ain't easy, so you have to hand him that. Your vote against him is one thing you can do, the other is to campaign for his opponent.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Already on it. I am going to be the one knocking on people's
doors on Tuesday in support of his opponent.
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #12
37. good job....
you will be rewarded. I was really glad I did it right in my Neighborhood, as I had never talked to many of those folks before, except now they know me as the flaming weirdo at the end of the street.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #37
40. I think they already have drawn that conclusion about me. eom
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:23 PM
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16. You're asking the wrong question.
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 07:23 PM by LoZoccolo
Should I have just told him to go to hell, or try to coexist peacefully in my very RED town in a BLUE state.

I think you should be asking yourself what you can do to get what you want.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:25 PM
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18. Well I am campaigning for his opponent...eom
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:28 PM
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20. So what did he talk to you about?
First kudos for maintaining civility and secondly what did he want to talk to you about? I'm curious after obviously seeing your bumper stickers that he had more to say to you? Because if he would have said to me I'd like to talk then I would have said "Sit down my son .. cause its going to be a long night!" on the other hand maybe it would have been a good opportunity to call in the deprogramming specialists so the poor guy has a chance at a normal life.

What does a town supervisor do anyway?
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. We have been having some major zoning issues in our town
and he wanted to know how I felt about them. For example, I live in a 25 year old development which has always been touted as a "nature" preserve. It was built within a pine forest, and there are many hiking trails, etc. Recently, the town approved, much to my dismay, the construction of a "tech park", which promised 5-10k new jobs, etc. right in the middle of the huge open space within the development. There are over 800 homes in the forest, and while you may feel like you are living cheek by jowl with your neightbors, you have a forest in your backyard and you can't see much but that. In addition, there is the question of a 350 acre horse farm that the town wants to buy to build more houses.

He is, of course, on the "let's build more" bandwagon. The town supervisor is the leader of the council which eventually makes all of these decisions.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:39 PM
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24. Tell him you already have a religion.
One where you don't have to mutilate yourself by blinding yourself to the truth.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:41 PM
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25. And it's not satan worship
:rofl: :rofl:
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:42 PM
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27. I suspect that
he's brand new to running for office and does not yet know to avoid houses with obvious signs that they won't vote for him.

It takes a while to figure out how to go door-to-door effectively.

I made lots of similar dumb mistakes when I was first campaigning last year. It was good you were civil to him. Perhaps you should have very politely told him you'll be voting for his opponent. But no candidate deserves overt rudeness. It's astonishing what people will say to a candidate. Oh, the stories I could tell.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. I will be going door to door
next week for his opponent, so perhaps in my own little way I was being kind so that my karma wouldn't be shot for that.
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SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #28
38. In that case
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 08:01 PM by SofaKingLiberal
Then you should have stayed there and talked to him. Get to know what issues he is discussing with people and how he explains his position. Find out what lies is is telling (he is a repug, of course), so that you can show him as the scumbag he is when you go door to door.

Know thy enemy.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:07 PM
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41. I did accept his literature but
I have a ferocious cold, my dinner was getting cold (yes, I know I am whining). I gave it a quick glance, but all I had to see was his platform on "preserving open spaces" to know what a freaking liar he was, because he is already on the town council, and voted to put in a huge tech park in the middle of my neighborhood, eliminating acres of forest and hiking trails. In addition, he voted for the acquisition of a 350 acre horse farm to build more houses. How is this preserving open spaces? My cat is now mauling the lit.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #27
50. Good post !
As a campaign consultant, I always have the candidate stick to the " low hanging fruit " until they've all been personally spoken to, and that's a near impossibility in a larger city or district.
But.....I also encourage them to engage the opposition constituents with respect and politeness, especially when there may be a chance to persuade.
The original poster is to be commended for his/her civility. Persuasion works both ways.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:55 PM
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51. Thank you!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:58 PM
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35. I would apologize for not being able to talk to him out of fear that I
might take out my anger against President Cheney and his state of the nation on him. Then, I would keep closing the door with more apologies.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #35
45. Too funny...
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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:37 PM
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47. Why do people act like this is a bad thing?
Atleast you had the opportunity to tell him your views. Atleast he got to her another point of view. Atleast he now knows that not everyone believes what he does.

He did what a person running for office should always do. He went out and spoke to the people he may represent. He may not agree but atleast he listening and is putting forth an effort.
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musical_soul Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:40 PM
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48. I just shut the door on aggressive salespeople.
This guy should be treated no differently.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:00 PM
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52. You could have firmly stated you'll vote Republican when the party rids
itself of all the Chickenhawks, Robber Barons, Moonies and Fascists who control it today.
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:03 PM
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53. I had a similar thing occur to me I just stated that if you support
that lying chicken hawk murder then I will never support you. He go the message, even though I was subtle.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:17 PM
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57. I think a kiss would have been appropriate.
If a pol is at your door he/she is at least pretending to care. Hear 'em out.

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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:31 AM
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59. He sounded like he was being very polite....
why would you tell him to go to hell?!?
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:58 AM
Response to Reply #59
61. Becasue He Should Have Known Better.
Well marked dems are of no interest of benefit to this asshat. I would be pissed that he was wasting my fucking time. Polite or not. He was wasting her time in the middle of her dinner and she made it quite clear he was not interested. He stopped being polite at the moment he felt the need to push the conversation beyond that point.

Although YOU may have found his message a bit more palatable than most of us here...
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