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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:54 PM
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Call me a snob, but why would anyone WANT to vacation in Crawford
in August when they could go to Kennebunkport?

Hot,and to my eyes it just looks dismal

Camp Casey participants deserve a medal for putting up with this fake "Western White House" Crawford Ranch shit
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:57 PM
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1. One mans vacation is another mans AWOL. n/t
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:58 PM
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2. Personally, I don't think he stays there
There's enough space on the 'ranch' for him to leave and return at will. If he is so public about staying there for such extended periods of time, I want to see the bill for the safety renovations.
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:10 PM
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7. He only goes there for photo shoots and such.
I bet he doesn't even stay there.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:04 PM
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3. pvt lake, 2 pools, massive house and ....
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 09:05 PM by KyndCulture
best of all you can fool people into thinking you're a real cowboy...or a regular guy. When in fact you don't step foot outside the air conditioning unless heavily medicated and properly dressed by the handlers for a "brush clearing" or "press conference"


it's all image mileage... that's it.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:11 PM
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37. There is a guest house as well
They lived in it while the so-called ranch house was being built.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:06 PM
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4. No one sane would. Oops, we are talking about Bush, aren't we...?
People who live in Texas don't go to the middle of a farm field for vacation in August. They might go to South Padre (the beach) or New Mexico (the cooler mountains), but not Waco. That's nuts.

Of course, he hasn't been there all the time. He has been to New Mexico and Illinois (as I remember) and now he's going to Idaho. When you have AF1 parked at the Waco airport, the world is your oyster. (On our dime, of course.)



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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:06 PM
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5. A protest against an illegal war, and to fuck with Shrub!
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 09:13 PM by orpupilofnature57
Plus it's the megalomaniac in Shrub to be in the center of his universe, Texas.
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:07 PM
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6. No eyes or ears on the pig farm.
If we knew the people who come to visit him, it would be scary.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:10 PM
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8. not to mention Idaho.... no offense.. but Idaho? nt
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:11 PM
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9. Hush my little sheep.
Hush.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:11 PM
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10. So they can be glad to get home...
...reenergized and eager to go to work.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:12 PM
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11. IMHO to copy Raegan
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:21 PM
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15. By George, I think you've got it!!
Reagan's "ranch" never looked dismal;it looked like a mountain retreat

This whole thing is just so weird. You'd think that reporters would write about how boring it is(except for this summer- thanks to Camp Casey)

Has anyone posted on what there is to do in Crawford?

Besides ride a goddam bike for 2 hours every day?

Strictly for someone who is on a f***ing 5 WEEK VACATION in the middle of goddam nowhereville?

You can call me that snob now
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:51 PM
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25. Reagan wasn't a-skeered of horsies though... lol
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 01:15 AM
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36. Reagan chopped wood with an axe, and rode a large horse
Hell, even Nancy rode with considerable aplomb.

monkeyboy uses a chain saw to cut 'brush' and is afraid of horsies!
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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:16 PM
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12. You couldn't find a place farther from the "liberal" population centers
How big would Camp Casey be if chimpy were vacationing on one of the coasts?
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:17 PM
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13. "It's not the end of the world,
but you can see it from there."
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flying_wahini Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:19 PM
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14. the crawford coward
well, I just arrived home an hour ago after spending all day in
Crawford, and I have to say.... ick...
don't like Crawford and I'm from Texas,
It was 96 degrees today with a heat index of 105 - between the dust and the very high Bubba factor I can't for the life of me figure out why Anybody, including gwb would live there.
Camp Casey I and II are both great, and the people I met were
all fantastic....I was wrung out or I would've stayed for
Steven Earle.. couldn't fathom sleeping in either a ditch or
in my car..... told some women I met there (from Seattle) who said they often slept in cars, that they will be 10 lbs. lighter in the
morning - because the big ass skeeters will bleed them dry!
I
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:36 PM
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21. Stevie Earle was there!? Damn, I missed it.
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 09:37 PM by LibInTexas
But standing around in 100 degree heat at my age isn't a real good idea.

I may slip down early next week, I don't have a job lined up until Thursday at this point.

Thanks for being there.

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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:39 PM
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22. Thanks for posting and especially going to Camp Casey
Welcome to DU
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:22 PM
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16. Bush only built the ranch for his IMAGE of a Texas rancher. He lived in
wealthy subdivisions most of his adult life and only swung golf clubs. It wasn't till he decided to run for president that they set up his fake ranch.

I also think he is paranoid and is afraid of being overheard participating in some of their more devious plans. He feels he is in total control at his ranch, because they have it wired to fit their every need for secrecy.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:30 PM
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17. Air conditioning. It is to hot to be outside right now.
Camp Sheehan is enduring 100 degree temps right now. Makes it all the more amazing.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:33 PM
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18. It's all PR so the Connecticut frat boy looks like a manly cowboy.
They keep all those mean, big horses away from him. Roadside moms, too.

It's not a real ranch, the way it's run for him. He "clears brush" and rides - and falls off of - his bike, but he doesn't do actual ranch work. But he struts around like the Marlborough Man.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:33 PM
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19. Sorry, but the charms of Texas are lost on me...
But we all have our idea of paradise, I guess
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:49 PM
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23.  It's really not all that bad. It's just pretty bad right now. August.
However, starting later next month, the weather will moderate and it is quite pleasant. I'll sit on my back patio and listen to the fish jumping in the pond and light the chiminea in the evening to keep warm and for the ambiance of a flickering fire of pinon wood.

This hot humid summer weather is a trade-off for the rest of the year. We don't ever have to shovel show. I did that in Nebraska and Wisconsin. No more for me. Frequently on Christmas or New Years I BBQ outside and don't freeze my buns off.

But for the Chimp to CHOOSE to vacation on a hot and humid Texas prairie in the middle of August is just crazy. (Like he is.)


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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:55 PM
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29. Which is exactly my point - August! The entire month was really
supposed to be spent in that oven

He is an idiot

But I'm sure it's nice in other months
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:02 PM
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32. Got your point, and agree. n/t
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 01:06 AM
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35. it's funny that he's landscaping the place to look like the East Coast!
Almost the first thing he did when he moved in was to build a big-assed artificial fishing pond. (This after bragging that he grew up in an arid area so he knew all about conserving water.) And now he's clearing away the brush, allegedly to make little glades to plant flowers in. And his favorite things on his property are the big "bodark" (a.k.a. Osage orange) trees and the waterfall, in the bottomlands.

This doesn't sound like a man who loves the Crawford landscape as it is. He seems to be seeking out places which remind him of the less-arid Eastern woodlands where he spent most of his youth (at school in Connecticut). And if he can't find them, he spends money to create artificial versions.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:15 PM
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38. School was in ANDOVER MA--even further north
A short hop from the NH border, in fact. Boarding school, of course, PHILLIPS ACADEMY. Daddy gave that joint a fortune....
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:24 PM
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39. you're right, of course ...
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 06:31 PM by Lisa
I was thinking of his time at Yale, but as you suggest, his years at prep school would be even more significant, since a) he was younger and more impressionable (some research suggests that the places we're exposed to in our early to mid-teens have a major influence on what we consider to be "desirable" in later years). And b), he was more closely supervised and not in a drunken haze, as he was in his college frat -- likely missing any sense of the landscape!

p.s. here's a link to a map of "potential vegetation" of the US (based on climate and undeveloped sites).

http://www.fs.fed.us/fire/fuelman/pnv2000/maps.html
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:34 PM
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20. Surely, not in August, but it could be nice in November.n/t
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:53 PM
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27. October here is awesome. Best month of the year. We don't get the
riot of colors as the leaves turn like "up north" but the weather is so wonderful, it makes up for it. We turn off the AC and leave the windows and doors open 24/7. My dog can come and go as she pleases in and out of the house. (She's figured out the screen I hang in the doorway to keep the bugs out.) She loves it.




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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:22 PM
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33. My late husband and I used to head for Texas in the winter
after spending the summer in the Northwest.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:30 PM
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34. I'm sorry for your loss. If I had my druthers (is that a word?) I'd be in
Texas for the winter and up in your neck of the woods for the summer. Or perhaps in England (where my wife is from) where it's nice and cool (compared to here.)

Shrub being just outside of Waco in a compound reminds me of another manipulative cult leader a few years back.

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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:50 PM
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24. it's all just for show...if he's a cowboy, I'm the pope. (nt)
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:52 PM
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26. Probably to prevent EXACTLY what is happening anyway.
Massive Protest from the citizenry on his doorstep.

God knows none of them would have the fortitude, convictions or balls to camp there in August.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:54 PM
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28. In a ditch no less.... nt
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:56 PM
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30. I think it was to jerk the press around
He always hated them back in his Daddy's presidential days. The idea of putting them in the middle of no where in August gives the little monster a laugh. He is a prick after all.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:57 PM
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31. His mother is in Kennebunkport
He's keeping his distance.
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