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veracity Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 04:39 PM
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Server shuts down TV NewsLies!
Someone sent offensive spam email using TvNewsLies' name. The site does NOT have an email account, and was not responsible for the spam messages. Meantime, www.tvnewslies.og is DOWN.

Please keep checking back to see when - and IF, tvnewslies.org gets back online. Someone, somewhere is out to silence the anti administration and anti corporate media messages from this site.

This is very dangerous. Please hang in there, and keep trying the site. It HAS to come back, or the opposition wins.

I don't think you can even email Jesse at this time. Pretty awful.
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 04:51 PM
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1. This is really frightening
Just consider what could happen to other similar sites. Whoever controls the server should be identified if possible. They are probably in cahoots with the pervasive media circus and the BFEE.
:scared:
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 04:56 PM
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2. I'm not an expert
but I know enough to know that it's possible to trace the route of e-mail. Even if you cannot determine it's actual point of origin, a message header should contain enough information to show that it didn't actually come from your server. Your ISP should know enough to determine the veracity of the claim.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:00 PM
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3. SpamCop is proven unreliable
sometimes they'll try to shut you down for no reason. I've used SpamCop but stopped using them because it's too automated. Someone from TVNewsLies.org needs to e-mail their ISP explaining the problems with SpamCop.

http://www.cauce.org/about/resources.shtml

Look at what CAUCE says about SpamCop (I'm a CAUCE member, btw)

A tool that allows you to paste in spams that you receive, and then traces the source of spams and assists you in complaining to the spammers' ISPs.

(WARNING! The tools provided by SpamCop can be very helpful in assisting you with deciphering spam and filing complaints. But the tools are not fool-proof and occasionally result in erroneous analyses, which can result in filing complaints about the wrong people or sending them to the wrong ISPs. So caution must be exercised when relying upon SpamCop's recommendations. Also note: SpamCop runs a "blacklist" that is highly controversial and has proven to be very unreliable. There are frequent reports of SpamCop's blacklist erroneously listing confirmed opt-in email as spam! For these reasons, CAUCE does not recommend use of the SpamCop blacklist.)

Hawkeye-X
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:05 PM
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4. Another Rove/Ashcroft tactic?
If so, we can reasonably expect more of this type of thing at other liberal websites. The election is approaching.
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