HE came back, the cops have been notified, I got my neighbor's dog

[Melodybe]

Can't talk now, I'm dealing with my hubby and the cops.

[Skidmore]

1. Good, I'm glad you reported the intrusion.

[Wetzelbill]

2. Stay safe and be careful!

[Hawkeye-X]

3. What happened?

*poke*

I must have missed something?

Keep us posted about it. I saw your earlier thread..

[bananas]

32. She was robbed and they came back

Here are her threads from earlier:

We got robbed today, please think good thoughts for us.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4411798&mesg_id=4411798

I'm kind of wigging out, please someone talk to me and calm me down.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4411888&mesg_id=4411888

[lvx35]

4. Yeah, what happened, isn't it like 5:30 AM there?

[RC]

5. I just love these public mystery threads by people who use DU

as a private messengering service. Apperently any Forum will do.:banghead:

[Melodybe]

7. I have been hear forever, I consider the people here at DU my friends

I've had a dangerous and crazy night.

I came here for comfort.

We've been robbed and now the crackheads that did it have been stalking our neighborhood, which is not a bad neighborhood BTW, and freaking us out on purpose.

FUCK THAT!

We don't deserve to be treated this way.

[Dynasty_At_Passes]

9. Yeah but why are they stalking the neighborhood?

Any reason filed by the police reports exactly?

How do they know you guys? What's the official line anyhow?

I've seen some pretty rough folks in my time and well, been friends with a few of them. I can't say why I guess, but despite any things I have done, I did learn one thing.....

Out here, it is a world that is mightily disenfranchised. Poor people who rob others are unfortunately all too common, because of the seperation of class society we have today. If only everyone was more equal, and they could live together without taking from everyone else we would have a much more free society....

I hope those boys get some help, get in a club and get cleaned up. Not some druggie club either.

[Melodybe]

16. I don't know why, I'm probably going to call his mother tomorrow

if I can find her. My family has a reputation in our home town for being good folks to everyone. I have plenty of friends that will watch out for us, but still it has been such a long and adrenalin filled evening.

[QC]

53. What part of town do you live in? n/t

[Melodybe]

64. middle income neighborhood in the middle of town

[QC]

69. I was on South Lamar for years.

Nice part of town and all, but I still got robbed there. There's a lot more crime in Oxford than most people know about.

[RC]

12. And I am supposed to know that --- How?

[greyl]

13. keeping it in one thread may have been nice nt

[Violet_Crumble]

38. Posting it all in the Lounge might have been even nicer....

n/t

[Hekate]

27. Hang in there, lock up, talk to the cops, hug your hubs

Went back and read your other thread -- wow, what an upsetting night for you and your family.

Of course you checked in here. You need a :grouphug:

When I was a college student I had my purse stolen from my apartment -- I just woke up one morning and the screen was off the front window and my purse was gone. I could not believe how violated I felt. My personal space and my personal information no longer felt safe.

I'm glad you called the cops. The good-looking man that waltzed into your home without invitation and simultaneously charmed and alarmed you was up to no good -- that was a really brazen boundary violation, not just bad manners.

You really have had a dangerous and scary night. Hope you get some rest, hope the cops can help you and your neighbors. :hug:

Hekate

[Wetzelbill]

8. What's with you?

That was an odd response to someone who has obviously had a tough night.

[LaurenG]

11. That's what I thought

Why be so mean? :shrug:

[Melodybe]

28. Thanks, I appreciate it.

ARRG, I think I can sleep now.

Thinking good thoughts, thinking good thoughts, I'm glad that my neighbor's big dog is asleep in the living room.

Talk to everyone tomorrow.

Thanks for the love, take care,

Melody

[Wetzelbill]

30. yeah good night

:)

[proud2BlibKansan]

48. I understand the confusion

She should have kept it all in one thread or posted it in the lounge.

[Straight Shooter]

62. Empathy seems to be in short supply, doesn't it?

Sheesh. She didn't follow some esoteric protocol, is that the problem?

Hang in there, Melodybe. Reach out any time you feel like it, and in any forum. :hug:

[theHandpuppet]

35. Ditto that!

And resident mind-reading services available, too.

[Generic Other]

54. DU is a community and m,any of us care what happens to our friends

so back off.

[Dynasty_At_Passes]

6. Probably a thief, aka a robber.....

Maybe he didn't really mean to do all of this though and is desperate for money? :blush:

Any word from the police report? His friend doped up on "drugs" might have cased the place, thinking this was the only way they could get money this week.

Lots of poor disenfranchised people out there, even former rich folks, who steal from everybody.

[Dogmudgeon]

10. They might be thugs intent on intimidating the neighbors

Sort of like Neo-Con Republicans, only these thugs sell crack direct to the public.

I don't know the full story, though.

--p!

[Dynasty_At_Passes]

14. I resent those remarks.

Thugs man, or kids or anyone trying to live their life who unfortunately choose the wrong path should NEVER, EVER in my eyes be compared to the neocons......

NeoCons, aristocrats, rich arrogant people who don't give a (pardon my french) shit about anyone are the problem in this society. Poor, disenfranchised people who do bad things or, sometimes even misunderstood things should never be compared to those bigots IMO.

These people, especially teenagers are still caring people who develop closely knit bonds and try to make do with their lives. Even in gangs. They get used by rich folks who sell their soul out for a dollar, and they get used all the time and blamed by the media.

If the lower class, if the citizens whether thieves, thugs, or dis-enfranchised felons were given a place to reform themselves they would. The prideful, spit-on america and everyone else neocons and their rich friends would like to see that never happen. Its called keep the prisons, the police forces, the sherrifs all well paid and filled. Did my brother get arrested for riding his motorbike down the city streets? He did, but I'm not making that a point of my rant.

[Melodybe]

22. Damn straight crackheads are the result of Bushco

go back and read some of the early cases of crack use, drugs pushed by the CIA, it all ties into Iran Contra.

Bushco wants black people drugged out, that way they are too out of it to realize how fucked they are getting.

I just hate that this had to happen to my family, it has been very terrifying..

[tsuki]

31. Neocons? Sounds like Conservatives to me. eom

[Dogmudgeon]

33. Are you serious?

How can you resent opposition to thugs and thug violence? You don't like Bush, the arrogant/decadent rich, or the police, so that makes thuggery okay?

People who make thousands of dollars a week selling drugs, running numbers, providing sex and private vengence services on the street, and enforce their privileges by violence, are not poor, disenfranchised, or even misunderstood. They consider themselves businessmen, entrepreneurs, "men of honor", and big shots. They know exactly what they are doing. They do not bemoan the circumstances of their early lives; they exploit the circumstances of their victims' lives.

One growth industry for these self-styled Dukes of the City is slavery. They bring their countrypeople into the USA under contracts of indentured servitude that take decades to pay off, during which time their slaves are financially exploited and abused at will. Attractive young women can count on working on their backs well into their 30s. Even the elderly and children are put to work in sweatshops.

This isn't even "unfortunately choose(-ing) the wrong path", it's a conscious choice to build a career on criminal activity protected by force, violence, and "punishment" with no appeal. It's a far different path than the one taken by the person who makes a mistake.

The "food chain" of thuggery extends from the most depressed corners of the ghettos to the highest corporate suites -- and even the White House. None of it can be excused, though it's important to understand it.

But excusing organized street criminals because the government and its police functionaries are oppressive is an exercise in absurdity. They are bottom-feeders who grow from the crumbs that the State leaves behind. They prey on the poor and destitute, whose deaths and misery attract no attention. They destroy their own communities while pretending to be minor royalty.

And they make up the junior auxiliaries of fascist police-states. Where do you think fascists recruit from, anyway?

--p!

[Dynasty_At_Passes]

36. I'm not talking about those mafia goons.

I'm talking about the poor and destitute, who can only make money off drugs or can barely get a job anywhere because somebody labeled them a "felon". You misconstrued my words, and made it about something else.

[progressivebydesign]

59. Crimes against others are NEVER excusable. I disagree with you.

I grew up poor. I would never harm another person by stealing from them or intimidating them. Ever. Because, regardless of my circumstances, I would NEVER do anything that would cause another pain, whether thru stealing or anything else. It's wrong. I don't care what anyone's excuse might be. You HURT people when you steal from them.. even if it's a little amount. Values don't apply only to those with money. In fact, the less you have materially, the more those values mean to you. It's often ALL you have.

[Melodybe]

15. No, local crackhead

stealing people's car radios for money.

Sad thing is, that I knew him when he was a little kid. I even sowed up his dog once. It is tragedy that he is now a 25 year old crackhead, that feels he needs to steal our car radio and then walk up and down our streets scaring the hell out of us.

[RebelOne]

17. You sowed his dog up?

[Melodybe]

19. He used to live near my parents' house, his dog Salty got hit by a

lawn mower blade and he brought the dog to our house to fix him up. He was a sweet kid, it was so sad. He walked up to our porch holding his dog and crying. He must have been about 9 or so.

So I patched up the pooch and literally sowed up the gash on his leg.

I didn't recognize him when he came into our house, also he was saying that he was someone else, and that threw me.

[RebelOne]

21. I think you mean you sewed his dog up.

[Melodybe]

24. sorry I'm more sleep deprived than usual and all the drama

[RebelOne]

46. Sorry to correct you,

but I really didn't understand what you meant.

[Dynasty_At_Passes]

18. IMO, he needs to go to a rehab clinic....

Needs to be encouraged to go back to rehab, drugs is a huge addiction for the poor and disenfranchised of america. It is why the war on drugs never ends, someone is always "making sure" the drugs keep getting out to the schools.....

[Melodybe]

20. Well Bush doesn't think that crackheads deserve that kind of funding so

jail is the other alternative.

[Dynasty_At_Passes]

23. Gotta keep those prisons filled!!!

For all them horrible gays and bad people :sarcasm:

Actually if he checks into the state programs he'll have alot better luck, I know that from experience.

[Melodybe]

25. I know, I hate the misery that they give to the world.

[Dynasty_At_Passes]

26. Find out whats up with him, send your prayers for his family.....

And whatever you do make sure to tell him to stay the hell away from the fundie churches, they'll try to turn him and his friends into walking zombies of destruction who go against everything black people stand for man!!!!

Got to always keep an eye out. Best wishes. :hug:

[Melodybe]

29. I actually have no probelms sending him to the black churches around here

they are not fundies, they actually have some really decent pastors.

I'll talk to'um tomorrow and see what's up.

[JNelson6563]

34. oh good!

more lounge fodder in GD! :puke:

[Rude Horner]

37. I'm a bit surprised

at some of the insensitive posts on this thread. I realize this forum is mostly for political stuff, but Jesus H. Christ! We're a community as well, and this woman was scared and came to DU for someone to talk to and help calm her nerves, during a really stressful and scary time in her life. But god forbid she post it in the General Discussion forum! Oh no! Hell, the way a couple people acted I had to check to make sure I wasn't on freerepublic.

Melodybe, take care and I hope things are better now. I know how it is to go through what you're going through and how horrible it is to feel unsafe in the one place that you should feel safest of all - your home. Take care.

[Violet_Crumble]

39. Insensitive?

No offense, but if she's going through such a stressful and scary time, why the hell is she starting multiple threads on an internet bulletin board? I've been through a really stressful and scary time about two years back and if I'd found the time (which I didn't) or had the interest (which I didn't) in posting away about it while it was happening, I wouldn't have figured what was happening to me was something that belonged in a forum that's for political stuff, rather than the Lounge. That's not insensitive, it's not being a Drama Queen...

Violet...

[Rude Horner]

40. I'm glad that you've determined that

your way of dealing with a stressful situation is the ONLY way to deal with a stressful situation.

Perhaps you could send us a list of appropriate reactions to every situation so next time we deal with a situation, we can pull out your list and take the appropriate course of action.

[Violet_Crumble]

41. It's the usual way when dealing with an emergency situation....

Where did I say it was the only way?

My suggestion for every DUer who has a stressful situation is to drop everything and come to GD and start multiple threads, making sure they start one saying 'I can't talk now!' ;)

What is yr interest in having these sort of threads filling up GD? Do you have some sort of allergy to the Lounge? My gentle suggestion would be that someone who posts in the Lounge on a regular basis wouldn't run the risk of being seen as an attention-grabber if they went and looked for support in the Lounge. After all, if they're truly looking for support, they know they'll find bucketloads of it in there and people who like this forum because it's about political stuff won't wonder why they're being expected to give support to someone they don't know from a bar of soap....

btw, the questions were purely rhetorical. I don't feel much like feeding this thread, so I should have gone with my first reaction, which was to ignore it...

Violet...

[Rude Horner]

42. If you have 1000+ posts and still

feel that because you don't know everybody here PERSONALLY, - that they are somehow just a bunch of strangers that you know no more than "bars of soap", then that is sad.

I think she came here because she felt like it was a place she could turn to for friends. I think a lot of us feel that way.

But wow - "attention-grabber"? "expected to give support"?

Next time I see some woman getting mugged on the street and she's shouting for help, I'll have to remember that attitude. Then I won't have to feel guilty for not helping her. I'll think:

***
Gee, what an attention grabber she is! Why is she shouting for help here when she should go to the proper authorities to get help! I mean, why should I be expected to give support when she's asking for help from the wrong people? Doesn't she know that she should be calling for the police? They are the proper people to ask for help. I sure as hell shouldn't be expected to give support. Geez, how rude! What an attention grabber!
***

Sorry that someone else's bad day wasted a few valuable seconds of your time.

[RC]

44. If this thread had been posted in the Lounge,

people would not be getting uptight trying to defend an "Erroneous posting in the wrong Forum" problem, because there would not be a problem.

Really, if the original poster was in such dire straits, why is she even posting on DU in the first place, let alone all over DU as if she is just seeking attention.

[Rude Horner]

45. Who said

she was in dire straits? She came for a little compassion and got shit on by a few people because she didn't go to the correct forum.

I refer you to my above post. Obviously you feel you know the correct response to every given situation, and I guess I'd just like you to post that list so I know what to do the next time I get junk mail, or a case of the crabs, or my house robbed or whatever.

btw - just an observation - "just seeking attention" is the same thing the freeps say about Cindy Sheehan. And we make fun of them because of their lack of compassion.

Word to the wise - for everybody who gets scared and looks to someone online to talk to to help ease their worries, make sure you click on the correct link.

[Melodybe]

63. I was freaked out, the cops were called numerous times

I don't know if they picked him up, but really I just wanted to talk.

It was like 4 am, people here were awake, I was freaking frazzled, I HAD A CRACKHEAD COME INTO MY HOUSE AFTER ROBBING US!!! I needed to talk my GD insomniacs.

Sorry, if I didn't post in the lounge, I generally post in GD is all and I wasn't thinking that clearly.

[wellstone dem]

70. Melodyb I was just looking for an update,

how are you doing?

[Pithlet]

65. Yeah,

Because clicking on a thread, and then responding to it more than once is SUCH a horrible inconvenience. I'm sure it has positively ruined your day. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[proud2BlibKansan]

49. Her thread starter doesn't make any sense

I am on DU a LOT (probably too much time here:) ) but when I logged on this morning and saw this thread, I had no idea what this person was talking about. I am sure I am not the only DUer who did not see her previous threads.

A strange note about a neighbor's dog and the cops and her husband just didn't cut it. Sorry.

We are not trying to be unsympathetic, but how can we be expected to give comfort to this poster when we have no idea what she is talking about?

[leesa]

43. Get a dog for yourself...most cops say they don't bother homes with dogs

Too much trouble. Sorry you were messed with.

[RebelOne]

47. Yes, get a dog and a big one.

I have a Rottweiler with a very loud bark. My neighbor next door and another neighbor across the street were burglarized. I think my dog deters any would-be burglar.

[hollowdweller]

51. My friends dog was shot by a burglar!

He lived though cause the neighbors heard the shot and called the cops. He came home and rushed the dog to the vet. The vet who is an evangelical Christian insisted they lay hands on the dog and pray before the surgery. It must have worked cause the dog lived!

[Wcross]

50. This might not go over well here- two words. Shot Gun.

If you are in fear for your life and safety in your own home there is no better defense than a shot gun. There are many "less than lethal" shot shells available that will put a hurting on a person without causing permenant damage. (Bean bag rounds, rubber slugs, rock salt) I keep a loaded shotgun in my home at all times. I have lethal rounds in it and I am prepared to use it if my life is threatend. I really don't care what kind of personal problems a thug has, when MY life is in danger I will defend it.
There is no reason for anyone to be in fear of their lives because of some two bit thug that has no respect for anyone or anything.

[hollowdweller]

52. Really. If somebody breaks in while your're there 2x

They are asking for it.

[Wcross]

55. I use the one strike your out method.

I would not shoot to kill if they obeyed my commands to halt and complied. If they break in knowing I am home I can only assume they wish to do me harm. They "might" be there to steal my stuff but how would I know?

[RebelOne]

56. I agree with you.

For a long time, I have been considering buying a gun. But I don't know if I could handle a shotgun. I shot one once and it had too much kick for me.

[Wcross]

60. It all depends on the shot shell you use.

There are reduced load shells that don't have as much kick as a standard shell. I have shot 3" turkey shot shells and they really have a kick. You could also get a .16/.20 guage and that would also reduce recoil.
See if there is a range that rents out guns and try a few. Go down to the local gunshop and ask the clerk for the lowest recoil rounds they have and test them out.

[salin]

57. I am lost

someone posted some of the threads - but I am still lost.

Car broken into (that is very violating of a feeling)

Loud man comes by, self-proclaimed minister, with info on who did it, invites to church and asks for money (this would be scary - just the oddness of it all) first place I am lost is - under what context did the minister guy ask for money?

Guy comes back in wee hours next place I am lost - I assumed this was the minister guy, but then a post states that the person is a crackhead and someone that has been known since he was a child, while the minister guy - as I read it - was someone unknown. I am missing a bit of info at this point.

All that said (my confusion)... MB - I do hope that this is resolved, and what a very unsettling situation. Peace be with you.

[AuntPatsy]

58. If your lost it is easy to

figure out the whole scenerio by following the links provided in this thread...

Last night my last post was in response to anothers saying enough is enough and we have to do something to change this country's obvious problems..

I answered that we need Unity to solve this crisis in our country brought about by numerous players and wondered if we really had that which is what it takes...

What is unity and how can such be accomplished?

Does it only pertain to political activism for some and does not allow for personal experiences unrelated to the topic at hand to be discussed?

Or could it mean, that one needs to care about each other not only on the partisan levels of excepting another but when someone has a personal crisis in their life and needs support so that one must put down the pen they were using to write a protest letter and lend that support....


I understand that in these times when disrupters are vast, people are edgy, Melody has proven herself to be nothing of the kind and therefore in my eyes...

Did NOT deserve the parental rebukes that were directed at her simply because she was not following what some would assume to be protocol....

If we are going to be united to fight against a common foe and win, we must remember that it not only takes a community to do it, it takes compassion and stopping for a moment or two to give a hand to someone who might have taken a nasty spill and is having a hard time getting back up alone...

I know how you feel Mel, been there myself, it gets crazy, and there was nothing wrong with you asking for a bit of comforting words from those on this message board, hang in there, like any wound, they heal and with the help of friends and family, all is soon nothing more than a long forgotten memory but a lesson learned hopefully so that such will not transpire in the dead of night again...

[salin]

61. I agree with what you said

and at the end of my questions was supportive of melody.

I was actually just trying to sincerely figure out what happened - as the threads I read were missing pieces of the story - I was just trying to fill in the pieces. No attack - just curiousity and concern for melody.

[Pithlet]

67. My sarcastic response was for

a couple other people in this thread. I responding to you now so you don't think my last response was intended for you :)

[Pithlet]

66. I know.

It took me two seconds to figure out what happened. Because clicking on a thread in GD and being confused for a short period of time is such an outragrious imposition on a person. Never mind the OP has been robbed and is understandably upset. Think of the poor people using their valuable time on a message board! And clicking on a thread against their will, and responding mutliple times. Why won't anyone think of them?

[GreenPartyVoter]

68. Oh man.. Be safe! *hugs*