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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:01 PM
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Did the Traitor in the WH violate the Patriot Act?
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 05:02 PM by Stephanie
Revealing the name of an undercover agent is a felony. But beyond that, did sabotaging Valerie Plame's work violate the Patriot Act? What would be the relevant provisions? If it's true, as has been reported, that she was working on issues of WMD proliferation, then it would seem that the Traitor has deliberately sabotaged the War on Terror.

And the Bush* WH has protected this person for two months by apparently not investigating the matter at all, despite it being widely reported in the news this July. What are the repercussions for Homeland Security of this Traitor's vile deed?
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ronzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:05 PM
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1. Ah, the gods are just that kind...
hoisted on their own petard.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:06 PM
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2. Death penalty
Treason gets the Death penalty. Rosenbergs.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:18 PM
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3. The administration will muddy everything they can with
disinformation. Watch Plame listed as a staff employee . . . or whatever. Watch for various interpretations of the law.

You're right to bring up these questions. It'll be important to anticipate them. Let's build a list of all the Cover-up and Disinformation that we hear AS we hear it.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:19 PM
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4. I'm looking for a Cliff's Notes version of the Patriot Act
Anyone have a condensed version?
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:24 PM
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6. But it was an earlier law. One Bush senior or Regean signed!
wasn't it??

But, boy, your instincts are right, trying to get the facts &c.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:28 PM
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7. The earlier law was signed under Reagan, I think
It's been posted here along with the quote by Poppy. But that's only a ten year sentence. Under the Patriot Act I think we could really put the Traitor away.
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:22 PM
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5. Probably. Technically, most DUers have violated it as well.
:grr:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:38 PM
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9. Do these provisions apply?
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 05:40 PM by Stephanie
http://www.criminaljustice.org/public.nsf/8C23D7A1B54F29CF852569F900744EE0/6DFC470F0930ABAD85256B06005AF56D?OpenDocument">criminaljustice.org

Other Criminal Provisions

Domestic terrorism (Section 802): defines domestic terrorism as any illegal activity that is dangerous to human life and that appears intended to (1) intimidate or coerce a civilian population, (2) influence government policy by intimidation or coercion, or (3) affect government conduct by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnaping; this definition is used to trigger certain consequences such as asset forfeiture

Expanded definition of Federal crime of terrorism (Section 808): adds several predicate offenses, including computer fraud and abuse, if “calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government by intimidation or coercion, or to retaliate against government conduct”
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:37 PM
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8. The traitor is gone
He is gone already. Removed by agencies greater and more complex than can be explained.... he got greedy and was tempted by iraq and bit like a fat stupid fish... and that error in judgement has already cost him the entire thing.

Now that the traitor is gone, what do we stand for? The constitution has been burned. In our new draft, i see more modern human rights than the paltry bill of rights... and more modern controls on business and media than those of the 17th century.

The traitor is the arrogant one who feels that in some respect he or she is not a traitor themself. To be attached to something is to be a traitor to its truth. The truth is that life is here once with no replay.

Homeland security will be fine if homeland is defined as all of 6 billion human beings. It will not be fine if homeland is not defined properly.
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