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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:05 PM
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Doesn’t the Patriot Act give the government authority
to arrest Novak without a trial and hold him until he fesses up? I’m serious here, this is a nation at war and a reporter disclosed the name of a government spy, shouldn’t Novak be locked up somewhere without legal representation?
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:08 PM
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1. The irony of that would astounding
Especially if it ended up sweeping up a few administration officials as well.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:22 PM
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2. The regime does not need legislation to kill or disappear anyone

They have already decreed that they will do so, as they see fit. Their guns give them the authority to do so.
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:24 PM
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3. But authority and intention
are two entirely different things. The authority to do something also implies the authority not to do it.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:51 PM
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4. Gee it may. It will get the tree sitters.
Think anything you do the White Houuse does not like and you are off to some jail and no lawyer. It is really just awful. If they had passes this in Num we would have half the country in jails and still be in the war. What the hell is wrong with congress ? / Only ones to stand up for us is Fiengold and Wellstone and he is dead.
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woofless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:34 PM
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5. Please look at what you are proposing.
"locked up somewhere without representation." What's that sound like to you? Just because the Patriot act is law doesn't mean WE have to act like fascists too just because we find someone reprehensible.

Woof
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:54 PM
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6. Hey, I wasn’t suggesting that they do it.
only that they now CAN do it, isn’t it ironic that the first big example of treason was on their side? But if they started taking journalists away, beginning with Novak wouldn’t cause much of a ripple here.

(just kidding)
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