annagull
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Tue Sep-30-03 05:08 PM
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DUers: Let's let Novakula have it! |
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Email Crossfire and tell CNN to get this disgusting piece of human garbage off the air! Novak printed the name of a CIA OPERATIVE--something none of the other journalists contacted would touch. Lives are now in danger because this P.O.S. wanted to do Rove's dirty work. Follow the link and let 'em have it! http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/crossfire/index.html
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Tue Sep-30-03 05:10 PM
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1. Novak is not the guilty party |
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The White House person (Rove?) who leaked it to him is the guilty one.
Freedom of the press means Novak should be untouchable here, and rightly so.
--Peter
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Tue Sep-30-03 05:11 PM
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you don't think he knew what a tool he was being? Freedom of the press? BULLSHIT.
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Tue Sep-30-03 05:14 PM
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3. Peter, he IS a guilty party! |
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If it was so important to release this woman's name, why did the other journalists WALK AWAY from it? The media constantly edit themselves when people's lives are in danger, like the sniper story, kidnappings, etc. This is not about press freedom, it's about a supposed journalist willingly doing a "hit" for Rove.
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Wed Oct-01-03 10:27 AM
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17. Yes, you have a good point |
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Edited on Wed Oct-01-03 10:28 AM by pmbryant
Ethical journalists would not have done what Novak did.
EDIT: Getting him off the air may be a good punishment, after all.
--Peter
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Wed Oct-01-03 10:42 AM
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18. Was rOve authorized to have that information? |
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Who officially has the names and duties of CIA operatives? The head of the NSC would have it. So would bush.
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Wed Oct-01-03 10:43 AM
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19. Even if NoFacks did not break any laws, |
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what he did is still immoral and his attempt to cover for the White House prove it.
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Tue Sep-30-03 05:14 PM
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4. Novak is a dick in many ways but HE DID NOT BREAK THE FUCKING LAW |
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There's a good chance we would not KNOW about this if he hadn't revealed the information that WAS -illegally- provided. Do you really want to muzzle investigative reporters? Aren't we supposed to be AGAINST censorship?
Jeezusfuckingchrist.......
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Tue Sep-30-03 05:24 PM
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5. No, he just got a bunch of people killed, no biggie. |
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He is hiding behind press freedom, he outed this agent to do Rove's dirty work. The CIA has not released it's damage assesment, but you can bet someone is sitting in a tiny room with electrodes clamped to their balls because Novak did his part for his buddy Rove. I just don't want to look at this smarmy prick everyday on my TV screen, if you don't agree don't write.
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Tue Sep-30-03 05:34 PM
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6. You are abysmally wrong. He did NOT "out" Plame. THAT was done |
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by whoever in the administration who divulged the information. You would probably have been very supportive of the Soviet Union system in the 70s and 80s where the media was prevented from revealing misdeeds of the government. I just don't understand how you can be so obtuse on this question. Why do you blame the messenger instead of the perpetrator? :eyes: :grr: :crazy:
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Wed Oct-01-03 10:57 AM
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20. I almost always agree with you Karl |
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but I can't on this one. Novack needs to go. How many times have I heard him make little snide comments on Crossfire like when the audience wildly applauses for Carville and Begala that "obviously a busload of Democrats have been brought in from the bar", type shit. No, he needs to go. I'm all for this.
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Tue Sep-30-03 09:18 PM
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14. I PUT MY COUNTRY ABOVE MY PARTY |
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WE ARE NOT F***ING FREEPERS. This is just pure arrogant republican BULLSHIT. Just another attempt to try to STIFLE DISSENT.
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Tue Sep-30-03 05:37 PM
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7. Clinton didn't break the law either--that didn't stop the witch hunt. |
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We should ask that Novak is fired not because he broke the law, but because he's a bastard.
He allowed himself to be the tool of Bushistas' revenge against a guy who only told the truth.
He should be fired not because he's a criminal but because he's a prick.
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Tue Sep-30-03 06:00 PM
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13. Exactly.................. |
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I wrote to CNN yesterday on this very subject. He may not have broken any laws, but there is a distinction between being an objective journalist, and being a vindictive pig that puts people's lives and livlihoods at risk. I suggested that if he didn't resign, he should be dismissed. Otherwise CNN risks being reduced to the level of FOX News or below. Novak should go of his own accord, but we all know how much integrity Conservatives have.
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Tue Sep-30-03 05:43 PM
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I hope they read mine on the air.
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Tue Sep-30-03 05:49 PM
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9. I can't stand Novakula |
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Where's Buffy when you need her? :evilgrin:
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Tue Sep-30-03 05:56 PM
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11. Sure he did something wrong...her name added nothing to the story... |
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put her and family in jeopardy...and pandered to the white house. Other journalists chose not to use her name. That says volumes.
He's an opportunist, full of self-deluded importance. He should pay a price, a big one.
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Tue Sep-30-03 06:00 PM
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12. People got killed because of this |
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I distinctly remember reading on DU, when this story first came out in the alternative media, that something like 66 operatives/contacts/whatever were "neutralized" due to her being outed. Unfortunately I can't search so I can't point to a thread.
Does anyone else remember this or is my brain just addled from too much tv?
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Tue Sep-30-03 09:53 PM
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15. I read that too but thought it meant they were no longer useful |
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I thought "neutralized" meant made ineffective. "Liquidate" is spy talk for killing someone.
I hope that doesn't happen to poor old Novak. Sweet dreams, you despicable old traitor. I think he should be stripped of his flag lapel pin, branded with a yellow stripe and thrown out of the fort!
And his source should be doing hard labor on a rockpile.
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Tue Sep-30-03 05:54 PM
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10. He looks like a heart attack candidate |
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He had way too much Max Factor on yesterday... looking pastier today.
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Tue Sep-30-03 09:56 PM
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16. NOVACK LIED AND CALLED HER AN ANALYST |
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From the PBS Lehrer report with a former CIA agent:
LARRY JOHNSON: Let's be very clear about what happened. This is not an alleged abuse. This is a confirmed abuse. I worked with this woman. She started training with me. She has been undercover for three decades, she is not as Bob Novak suggested a CIA analyst. But given that, I was a CIA analyst for four years. I was undercover. I could not divulge to my family outside of my wife that I worked for the Central Intelligence Agency until I left the agency on September 30, 1989. At that point I could admit it.
So the fact that she's been undercover for three decades and that has been divulged is outrageous because she was put undercover for certain reasons. One, she works in an area where people she meets with overseas could be compromised. When you start tracing back who she met with, even people who innocently met with her, who are not involved in CIA operations, could be compromised. For these journalists to argue that this is no big deal and if I hear another Republican operative suggesting that well, this was just an analyst fine, let them go undercover. Let's put them overseas and let's out them and then see how they like it. They won't be able to stand the heat.
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Wed Oct-01-03 11:01 AM
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21. My email to CNN/Crossfire: |
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"This idiot outed a CIA operative doing important work for our National Security for what, 30 years? In doing so, he put all her contacts in danger and serioulsy damaged the ability of the CIA to preform its duty of providing information pertaining to the movement of materials involved in the production of WMD!
Get a clue! Get this traitor off the air pronto! Bad enough he let himself be used to intimidate other would-be whislte blowers into silence, but he blew the cover on what had to be a large network of contacts in the CIA effort to prevent dangerous materials from getting into the hands of terrorists! If he didn't realize that aspect of his actions, he is a fool. If he did and reported about Ms Palme anyway, he is a traitor and should hang!"
Since I live in a small, predominatly right wing town and am easy to find, won't some kind soul say a prayer for me should I not post again here at DU? tom_pain? Stephanie? NSMA? jchild? Any denomination or sect is fine, I'm a pantheist. :evilgrin:
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