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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:12 PM
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Wouldn't it be great if people ACTUALLY followed Christ's Words?
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 06:33 PM by mopaul
i'm an atheist, raised as a christian, and as far as a creed to live by, you can't do much better than Christ's teachings. so simple. so easy to understand, yet, so corrupted and forgotten.

if only.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:13 PM
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1. Word!
:D
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:14 PM
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2. Yeah, but Vengeful Jesus, with the bloodshot eyes and bolts of lightning
coming out of his mouth, is much more cool! Really gets 'em in the seats at your local megachurch!
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:15 PM
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6. jesus will return soon & wipe out all the non believers!
wrong
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:28 PM
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26. Oh yeah?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:17 PM
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7. He was an ardent capitalist and warmonger.
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 06:17 PM by Canuckistanian
The money changers at the temple? Well, they were just trying to rip HIM off.

And, even though there were no assault rifles in the 1st century, he was for them.
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:18 PM
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Jesus Is Hate......
......we've come so far from when.... Jesus Is Love.....



Tikki
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:15 PM
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3. They don't listen to Jesus
they just worship him as an object and make up their own religion that keeps all their hatreds and greed intact. That's why they rarely quote him, but instead concentrate on things Paul said.
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Shadowen Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:30 PM
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22. Ever read Small Gods, by Terry Pratchett?
Truly an awesome book on the nature and power of belief...and lack thereof.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:15 PM
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4. Yes
Since Jesus said to worry first about your own shortcomings, and not to judge, there's no room to tell somebody else how to live and how to believe....these are wise bits of advice, I think.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:15 PM
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5. Agree, Christ's main teaching is central to most religions.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:17 PM
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8. Love your poster
I'm bookmarking this thread.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:18 PM
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10. That is so cool. Can I get the poster? n/t
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:21 PM
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13. Yes, please go to the link below and scroll down. I've given away
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 06:22 PM by jody
over forty to various groups, particularly troubled youths.

:hi:

The Golden Rule
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:23 PM
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15. Hey, you forgot Wicca in the poster!!
The Law of Threefold Return: whatever you send forth, good or ill, returns to you threefold.

AND

The Wiccan Rede: An it harm none, do as you will.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:29 PM
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20. Not my poster, but you make a very good point. In addition,
the first Secular Humanist Manifesto contained a statement that might be construed to support the Golden Rule, "In the place of the old attitudes involved in worship and prayer the humanist finds his religious emotions expressed in a heightened sense of personal life and in a cooperative effort to promote social well-being."
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:18 PM
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9. They would be completely dominated and persecuted...
...by those who don't. Sorta like the actual state of affairs.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:18 PM
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11. I agree! I'm an atheist and I know I follow Jesus's words more than they.
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 06:18 PM by Roland99
They being the pseudo-Christians so vocal in our political climate today.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:19 PM
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12. You would think such would take precedent when following
ones religious doctrine when they call themselves christians, "Christ Like" Could you honestly imagine christ himself declaring that it didn't matter that children were being slain when men fought their personal wars saying instead, "go get em troops, no mercy unto the enemy"

If we are all Gods children who decides who's the enemy? Surely not anyone associated with the true God, at least one would assume, I for one as a parent would never advocate my children killing each other no matter the circumstances. But then again, thats just me.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:23 PM
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14. i think i will vote for the Buddha on this one.. it is obvious to me that
jesus ran into a Buddhist traveling along the Silk Road from india it goes thru Damascus to Cairo and south to Mecca and north to the caspian sea.. the cross roads are actually right at Palestine where jesus grew up.

how could someone living in the Judaism of the time, where people stoned to death their neighbors and family for what today would be ludicrous reasons, come up with a completely different "Loving Father god" and a philosophy of unconditioal Love and compassion..

he met a Buddhist.. they had been around 500+ years at the time.

but aparently he didnt get all the pages of the book.. but a good start
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:25 PM
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17. yes, jesus traveled to the east, or so i'm told
he was away for several years, but the location is fuzzy.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:24 PM
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16. I couldn't agree more.
Well I could but I'd probably rupture something. As I understand how things work in fundie town there is a school of thought that explains aways the peaceful words of Jesus (I like to call him by his first name) by saying that his words are for 'after the end times' . Pretty weird I thought. Don't know if anyone else has heard that. Don't think I dreamed it.
Sermon on the mount seems like pretty good stuff to live by.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:29 PM
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21. Your sig line has sage
advice. I like to watch certain CSI shows but the corporate media is so DEAD on my tv.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:51 PM
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24. Exxxxxxcelent.
Get my news here mostly.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:26 PM
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18. Another "collapsed Catholic" here agrees with you...
...let them drop this thing about the Ten Commandments, forget about Paul altogether, and concentrate on The Beatitudes more.

The world would be a more interesting place, to be sure.

They really just should call themselves Paulians rather than Christians, IMO.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:27 PM
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19. Then they wouldn't be the
Fuckin' Hypocrites that spew "family values" and then say CHARGE IRAQ to murder innocent Iraqis based on the LIES of the head HYPOCRITES.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:49 PM
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23. Bingo!
Whenever people start ranting and raving about situations (Gaza strip) for example, I ask, 'who would Jesus kill/bomb?" It's amazing what it does. For me, it puts me in touch with the simple answer which is no one. Ever. I try to use the question in everything I do. If the thought crosses my mind to lie, cheat or steal, 'who would Jesus lie to, steal from or cheat?" pops in my mind and the issue is settled.............
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:59 PM
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25. Trouble is: No on recorded what He said during his life time....
The Bible guys wrote their stories 50 to 70 years after he died..

Things change during 50 years.....some times "lost" even.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:37 PM
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27. They don't see that they are the Pharisees
They are the Pharisees to a fucking T. Isn't it amazing how self-righteousness tends to blind people?

For the record, I'm a practicing Catholic, obviously not happy with a lot of my own church leaders, but I don't hate Christianity, far from it. I just think that the teachings of most modern churches have drifted so far from the actual intentions of Jesus it's sad.
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:45 PM
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28. I don't think Christ's teachings are that simple
The Christian ethos commands that one embrace nonviolence, surrender wealth to the impoverished, abscond from familial obligations, and suffer for Love.

This lifestyle would tax all of us, let alone the rightists.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:40 PM
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29. i've never had to kill anyone, i'm impoverished,
but i don't remember the part about suffering for love, or absconding family.
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