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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:48 PM
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"Global warming does not exist. It's something made up by the left..."
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 09:50 PM by Blue_Roses
to make money." These are the words that spewed out of the mouth of someone I was talking to about the heat as sweat beads rolled down my face in the 101 temperatures today. I asked them if they were familiar with what the astronauts had witnessed from space and the concern they have for our planet and you would have thought I was talking into thin air with this guy.:crazy:

I don't know if it was the heat or mere exhaustion with the ignorance of these people, but I just said, "okay, whatever," and went on my way. Sometimes it's just too frustrating to try to carry on a conversation with someone who is so blatantly stupid and continues to drink tons and tons of the kool-aide.

I know tomorrow when I'm rested I will be mad at myself for not saying more, but it probably wouldn't have made any difference.:banghead:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:50 PM
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1. He better get used to hearing it
Because it ain't going away.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:52 PM
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2. An Obvious Rush Limbaugh Ditto Head
The only solution for that guy is a lobotomy.

At least then he would be too dumb to vote.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:52 PM
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3. That person needs to get the memo
The original right wing spin on global warming was that it doesn't exist, then in the past decade it changed to "exits but isn't caused by man".





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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:52 PM
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4. It's not hot, you just hate America.
If you believe in global warming, the terrorists win.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:54 PM
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5. You probably don't believe in intelligent falling either
I'll bet you're one of those Newtonian Gravitationists. Grrr, you liberals!
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:56 PM
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6. John McCain is "the left?"
Even the Great Denier GWB recently acknowledged that global warming to be a real problem.

Maybe douchbags like John Stossel and the dunderheaded Michael Crichton are still toeing the "leftist invented it" line, but it's no surprise that they didn't get the memo, or that if they did they didn't (or couldn't) read it.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:57 PM
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7. Right--liberal Professors getting rich off grant money.
That's it. If it hadn't been so hot, you might have asked your freeper acquaintance who stands to gain by spreading disinformation about global climate change; maybe after he stopped sputtering you could have reassured him by telling him that LOTS of freeper dumbasses have allowed themselves to be snookered by energy industry propaganda--not just him.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:57 PM
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8. Wow! I mentioned this to my sis in CA and she said something
about it being seasonal. And she's a Dem but lives in great weather for the most part, except when homes are sliding down encompassed by mud.
Conversely, I live in TX and was in NY last week, and it's been hotter than blazes in both places. The residents in NY can't remember if it's ever been so hot; in TX, it seems really hot, but then again it always does in August.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:58 PM
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9. Those that cannot be counseled, cannot be helped. B. Franklin n/t
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:05 PM
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12. my thoughts exactly
:) Sometimes it's just not worth the frustration.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:01 PM
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10. "... made up by the left to make money."
Not only is this guy clueless about climatology, he doesn't know squat about the politics and economics of these times, either. Sounds like someone who's lived his whole life with his head in a bag. Some people make an avocation of the denial of the obvious if the facts are inconvenient.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:02 PM
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11. I wonder how liberals "make money" off Global Warming?
I know how repugs make money by CAUSING global warming (deforestation, SUVs, irresponsible industry, rejection of clean energy in favor of fossil fuel profits, etc.)but how on earth do WE make money from it? Anyone?

Oh well, if he's under sixty, global warming will bite him (and the rest of us) within his lifetime.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:05 PM
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13. I was wondering the same thing
:shrug:

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:52 PM
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15. We could make money on it.
Really....we could reinvent our energy policy that promotes non-oil sources of energy (solar, wind, hemp, bio-desiel) and penalizes energy systems that pollute (oil, coal, etc). We could promote pollution abatement technology. We could redesign our transit systems to promote mass transit and discourage auto's. In fact, we can reinvent our whole economy and put people to work building a post-peak oil infrastructure if we didn't have our federal government in the pockets of Big Oil.

Kerry should have linked the war in Iraq to our bankrupt national energy policy that creates wealth for a wealth at the expense of our national security and economy.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:10 AM
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21. Yes-but all that involves large expenses up front
imagination and scientific expertise; not the low cost/quick buck screw-the-future dim witted faith based approach of the Right Wingnuts.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:33 PM
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14. Sounds like he should take a trip to Tromso, Norway. n/t
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:16 PM
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16. Yeah, Carbon Dioxide is a myth, too.


I'd tell the guy that his proctologist called, and they found his Head.
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PatriotGames Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:24 PM
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17. The science behind GW is too much for their little brains to comprehend.
They just nod in agreement as Rush talks. :rolleyes:
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sintax Donating Member (891 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:47 PM
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18. Print these out- Hand these out
Visitors rush to glimpse vanishing glaciers

Attention turns to Alaska where climate change is transforming the landscape

Dan Glaister in Los Angeles
Monday August 22, 2005
The Guardian


The four distinguished visitors looked on in awe at the sight before them. Exit Glacier in Alaska's Kenai Fjords national park is one of continental America's most imposing monuments, and last week it was at its most impressive - a hulk of ice and snow imperceptibly making its way toward the sea.

But lately that movement has quickened, a fact that will not have been lost on visitors. One of the most popular tourist attractions in Alaska, Exit Glacier has receded 300 metres (1,000ft) in the past 10 years. The movement means that the viewing platform from which the group of dignitaries surveyed the glacier would have been under several feet of ice just a few years ago. Today it is on dry land.

<snip>

Melting glaciers is only one of Alaska's problems. As Kate Troll, an environmentalist writing in the Anchorage Daily News, put it earlier this month: "Besides retreating glaciers, insect infestations and more intense forest fires, Alaska is experiencing melting permafrost, flooded villages, warming oceans, coastal erosion, shifts in bird and wildlife populations, and shorter seasons for ice roads. And there is more to come, as Alaska is heating up at twice the rate of the rest of the world."

Last year was the warmest summer on record for much of Alaska. An Arctic Climate Impact Assessment report published in November 2004 said Alaska's average annual temperature rose 3.3C between 1949 and 2003. Some areas have risen twice that much.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,15...

Portugal burning

Sunday, August 21, 2005 Updated at 5:47 PM EDT

Associated Press

Lisbon — Two Canadair water tank planes from France and one from Spain arrived in Portugal on Sunday afternoon to help fight more than 60 wildfires gripping the country from north to south, firefighters said. A third of these were burning in the northern districts of Viseu and Viana do Castelo.

On Monday, one of the Canadian-made water bombers from Italy plus three helicopters from Germany with 25 anti-fire specialists aboard were expected to arrive in the fire stricken country to add to the international task force.

On Saturday Portugal asked the European Union for help in fighting massive wildfires as the Interior ministry admitted it could no longer cope with dozens of blazes burning through forests and farmland without external help.

Portugal's worst drought in years has helped the flames spread. So far, 11 firefighters and four civilians have been killed in this year's fires, while 50 houses have been destroyed.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.2005...

Warming hits 'tipping point'

Siberia feels the heat It's a frozen peat bog the size of France and Germany combined, contains billions of tonnes of greenhouse gas and, for the first time since the ice age, it is melting

Ian Sample, science correspondent
Thursday August 11, 2005
The Guardian

A vast expanse of western Sibera is undergoing an unprecedented thaw that could dramatically increase the rate of global warming, climate scientists warn today.

Researchers who have recently returned from the region found that an area of permafrost spanning a million square kilometres - the size of France and Germany combined - has started to melt for the first time since it formed 11,000 years ago at the end of the last ice age.

The area, which covers the entire sub-Arctic region of western Siberia, is the world's largest frozen peat bog and scientists fear that as it thaws, it will release billions of tonnes of methane, a greenhouse gas 20 times more potent than carbon dioxide, into the atmosphere.

It is a scenario climate scientists have feared since first identifying "tipping points" - delicate thresholds where a slight rise in the Earth's temperature can cause a dramatic change in the environment that itself triggers a far greater increase in global temperatures.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,12374,1546824,00.html
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:02 AM
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19. If you had told him Global Warming was Clinton's fault, he'd have
believed you.

:sarcasm:
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:07 AM
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20. LOL
Now that is something I should have thrown out there:rofl:

I'm sure the conversation would have been different.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 08:40 AM
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22. believe it or not, those (general) words
have been spoken by Senator Inhofe of Oklahoma---the chair of the environmental works committee....
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