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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:12 PM
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AP picks up the Robertson assassination threat
And look at this headline sitting over on the Seattle Times website right now!
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002448996_webchavez22.html

Televangelist Robertson calls for assassination of Venezuelan president

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. — Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson called today for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, calling him a "terrific danger" to the United States.

Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition of America and a former presidential candidate, said on "The 700 Club" it was the United States' duty to stop Chavez from making Venezuela a "launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism."

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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:14 PM
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1. Are you SHITTING me??? This is a Christian leader speaking? WHAT???
This guy is BAT SHIT CRAZY - I guess that would make him a perfect Republican. Never mind...
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:20 PM
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8. He's a textbook case, isn't he?
A true wingnut.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:06 AM
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44. Indeed he is. Communism filtration? He he. You've GOT to be kidding me
That's so over the top. I didn't know communism was still such a huge threat? We seem pretty content to totally kiss the biggest communist country's ass.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:16 AM
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55. If only we could dig McCarthy up from his grave
he'd take care of those pinkos! but seriously, I can't believe this "man of God" is actually advocating murder?
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 02:56 PM
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80. He represents the Republican party at this time
They are truly taking a long walk off a short pier. Don't expect us Dems to tell you where the end of the pier is located either...
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:25 AM
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32. In case you haven't seen the link, here it is...
http://mediamatters.org/items/200508220006

I find it very disturbing, but my husband said he's been nuts for years!

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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:04 AM
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43. remember when he tried to run for president--
he kept insisting that Cuba still had missles aimed at us--everyone decided he was nuts even then.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:14 PM
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2. Good. Let God smite him down nt
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:14 PM
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3. And will the MSM scream?
Robertson is a terrorist!

Naw...ain't about to happen. Robertson is so deeply inured against having anything happen to him, it would take a lightning bolt from hell to make anyone believe he is evil.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:14 AM
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61. Well, Today Show and Good Morning America covered it
but they stopped short of calling him a terrorist.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:35 AM
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69. Oh, yes, I saw GMA.
Charlie and Kate were just stunned. I guess they never heard about ol' Pat praying for the deaths of Supreme Court justices. It's about time they get a clue.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:15 PM
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4. This is the same preacher
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 11:16 PM by nadinbrzezinski
who asked for God to smite a USSC justice or two... but this is the type of christian some think we should all embrace
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:59 PM
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25. Can you say "fatwa"...?
Jihadis for Jeebus
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:19 AM
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29. Yes I can even spell it too
Fatwah... see it rolls down the tongue very easily
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 02:48 AM
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54. Good frame for it.
That is a good way to frame the debate and put the religious conservatives of both stripes in their corner.
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:42 AM
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58. Great idea! n/t
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:43 AM
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66. Exactly.

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Tyranny_R_US Donating Member (988 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:17 PM
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5. Is there a law against threatening other heads of state?
I sure hope there is.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:17 PM
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6. How are those diamond mines Pat? How many people did you kill?
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RedStateRed Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:23 PM
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11. That's different. For reasons that do not concern us.
LOL.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:14 AM
Response to Reply #11
76. Everything is different when it comes to repugs and rightwing
religious nutjobs.
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turbo_satan Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:19 PM
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7. A fatwa from the mad mullah himself
Let's send the snake-handling douchebag to Caracas and see if he's man enough to pull the trigger.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:21 PM
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9.  Didn't John Perkins mention this policy

In ' Confessions of an Economic Hit Man ?" Robertson is such an evil man.... how dare he talk about the Monroe Doctrine as if it was Divine Right? The word " Christian " cannot be applied to him in any sense.
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RedStateRed Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:22 PM
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10. This guy is a hoot. Remember when this smacktard was
talking about praying for the deaths of the remaining liberal SCOTUS justices?

And about how America would be better off if terrorists nuked Foggy Bottom?

With enemies like Pat Robertson, who needs allies?
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:27 PM
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15. Yes, bat-shit insane Robertson is.
But since he's a far-right "Christian" extremist, he gets a pass on preaching violence from most mainstream media.

And BTW, welcome to DU RedStateRed :hi:
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RedStateRed Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:31 PM
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19. Well, if the mullahs say it, it is extremism. If Robertson says it, it is
Patriotism.

Um, maybe that doesn't cut it.

How about Patriopsychotic?

And thanks. Glad to be here (I used to lurk here, long ago).
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:24 AM
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31. And how 9/11 was punishment for lesbians, the ACLU, etc.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:09 AM
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45. Welcome, Red State Red. Hope you enjoy it here
BTW - explain the handle. I see no blue there, but you obviously see the ridiculousness here.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:24 PM
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12. Way to go Pat! Keep that monopoly on extremism.
He doesn't want to allow communist and Muslim extremism a foothold to compete with his home grown, "Christian" variety! Pat, you old monopolist you.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:25 PM
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13. How is this NOT a terrorist statement?
Can we hope that the Department of Homeland Security will disappear the Reverend Robertson?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:25 PM
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14. Isn't he the same goodhearted "christian" man who bragged about
physically abusing his PUPPY????

Newsflash, Pat: Jesus has got a special place reserved for you in the very bowels of hell.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:31 PM
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18. that was Dobson. the 'other goodhearted christian' whackjob ... n/t
dp
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:27 PM
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16. they sought comment from Robertson
they should seek comment from the State Dept. as well.

Maybe the FCC as well.
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:30 PM
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17. I'm reminded of Salman Rushdie, and all the self-righteous
comments we heard from guys like Robertson. All the talk of 'backwards cultures' and such.

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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:58 AM
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41. Yeah, me too!
Maybe we can treat Pat Robertson like we treated Cat Stevens when he tries to fly back into the country sometime... It would seem fitting!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:40 AM
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71. Or the way they treated Janet Jackson!


He is threatening the life of a world leader.

Can't we write to the FCC?

He should be thrown off the air and/or but the bleep out buzzer on his every word.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:35 PM
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20. The world will be a quantifiably better place when Pat Robertson is dead.
That is simply a fact.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:36 PM
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21. Now, now
Let's not wish the same for our enemies as they would hope for us - that would be very unChristian behavior :rofl:
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:26 AM
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33. "Christian behavior?" "Unchristian behavior?" I have to admit...
... the lines are not at all clear to me these days.

:yoiks:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:40 PM
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22. Maybe Robertson is starting to have mini-strokes
and he's losing it now.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:45 PM
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23. "Televangelist"? More like a TELEMARKETER...
... selling worthless indulgences (like the medieval RC Church did) to fearful, ignorant people whom he also cons into praying for the death of judges that interfere with his corporatist agenda masquerading as Christian Reconstructionism.

The irony is that Chavez's rising popularity among people to even the far left of him -- including some very unsavory characters -- may not, shall we say, benefit the overall safety of Pat Robertson, who has just made himself a whole new category of enemies by stupidly opening his big, ugly pie hole.

I wonder if he can get those pricey four-figure Hong Kong custom suits in a nice wool-kevlar blend?
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:57 PM
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24. OMG!!! This man is freakin insane!!!!
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 12:00 AM by Greylyn58
He claims to be a Christian, yet he calls for the death of another human being. This man calls Muslims extremist then turns around and says let's kill the President of another country.

Robertson is the danger! Robertson is the terrorist!

Unbelievable!!



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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:04 AM
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26. FCC-
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:10 AM
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27. Good idea
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 12:18 AM by Carla in Ca
Won't do any good, but let's have some fun anyway.

Done.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:20 AM
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30. on the contrary how do you think they get away with it all the time
the right does this ALL the time, thanks for the reminder
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Ysolde Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:11 AM
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75. Done.
Thanks for the suggestion. We need to do this EVERY time these hate mongers open their mouths.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:17 AM
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28. Venezuela has oil. n/t
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:33 AM
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34. I'm surprised he didn't ask God to kill Chavez.
That's his M.O.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:37 AM
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36. No, apparently when he wants the job done right
he goes over God's head.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:00 AM
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42. Nahh... that wouldn't be chickenhawk style for God to do it himself...
He's got to get someone else to do it for him!
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:35 AM
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35. Wow. The Man's Deeply Felt Christianity Never Fails To Astound.
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 12:36 AM by impeachdubya
"Who Would Jesus Off?"

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theearthisround Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:41 AM
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37. As Jesus would have!!!
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:41 AM
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38. Thou Shall not kill
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 12:43 AM by brettdale
I guess he loves Bushy more than his religion.
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dghll Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:52 AM
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39. Whois the craziest
religious leaders today? Some of these (cult) leaders are truely shocking.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:55 AM
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40. Ha Ha! Venezuelan news source put the "Christian" in quotes
for their headline of the story ...

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=45605

I wish our mainstream media would do that!
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:11 AM
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47. it is sad when other country's media is soooo much better than ours
"christian" is right...
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 02:47 PM
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79. great catch fishwax - and THANK YOU venezuala
why do we have to go outside this country for some sanity

nevermind
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:10 AM
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46. Who would Jesus assasinate?
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:16 AM
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48. He'll probably want Eric Rudolph freed to go and do the job too!
He's been able to have Rudolph serve him before. Probably wants to use him again!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:42 AM
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:53 AM
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50. and he preaches the "Word of God".........Thou shall not kill.
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 01:53 AM by Historic NY
that man has a screw loose somewhere.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 02:13 AM
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51. GEEE, that's a dman good idea there, PAT
:sarcasm:

I think governments all around the world should just start assassinating one another's heads of state--and maybe some loud-mouthed would-be men of God while they're at it. What do you think of THEM apples, Mr. Holier than THOU? :mad:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 02:16 AM
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52. made CNN's more news on the homepage
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GasolineBoycott Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 02:40 AM
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53. Where is Homeland Security
When Pat Robertson makes terrorist threats openly on a national television broadcast? Will Robertson get the same treatment the rest of us would if we broke the law like that? Will Robertson be "rendered" to Camp Gitmo?
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:38 AM
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56. Who would Jesus assassinate? /off sarcasm
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:39 AM
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57. Remember when he called for the nuking of the State Department......
This is on the front page of Road Runner News. Of course he'll get away with it. He's a terraist with MORAL VALUES!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:58 AM
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59. wonder if his listeners realized his dissing of bush's iraq war
rationale in this:
"We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator," he continued. "It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."

Er - in addition to issuing a call for assassination - he just called out bush per Iraq. Don't think it was intentional (he is way to probush for that) but it certainly appears to unmask his true "read" of the whole IRaq war, doesn't it.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:05 AM
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60. Pat's church needs to pay it's taxes before it starts telling Bush
and the DoD what to do.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:18 AM
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62. Give Pat a piece of your mind!
The CBN web site has a feature called: Bring it on: Ask Pat a question.

http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/BringItOn/askpat.asp

;-)
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:23 AM
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63. Thank you!!
Where in the Bible...

did Jesus say it was ok to murder one's political foes?

I seem to recall Jesus teaching the Beatitudes. Do you remember those? I seriously doubt a militant, radical cleric such as yourself even cares about what the Bible says. You're like the typical GOP member today: money, money, money, power, money, power.

Do the world a favor and make yourself scarce.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:14 AM
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68. Here's what I sent him.
Dear Pat; Where in the bible does it condone murder for political reasons? Is that something Jesus would approve of? There are holy men, there are preachers and there are hucksters. Using God's name in vain to call for political assassinations puts you into the huckster category. I'm sure Jesus will point that out to you someday at the pearly gates, right before he hits the down button on the express elevator to hell.
:smoke:
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 10:02 AM
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73. Man, that was great!! Thank you for the laugh!! My favorite part is-
"right before he hits the down button on the express elevator to hell."

That is one of the funniest things I have read in a long time. Thank you.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:39 AM
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64. Ok - tell me the difference
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 06:40 AM by rosesaylavee
between him and a imam calling for fatwa? Hmmm?

If that show is still on TV - there must be wingnuts that watch it and out of all those people, there must be one or two that are thinking about how to do work out an assassination.

Unbelievable.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:41 AM
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65. just heard it on CBS's morning show!............. eom
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:51 AM
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67. Send him to Gitmo!
CNN did a story on it this morning around 6am ET.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:33 AM
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70. So, can Chavez send in a team of assassins to take Roberston out?
Or does he have to bomb our cities and occupy our country?
Pre-emption is the way things are done now, right?
Robertson, just another Osama-wannabe.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:45 AM
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72. Thou shall not kill
quit fucking up the 10 commandments Pat. You only use them when they are convenient for your stories... Shame on you....
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:09 AM
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74. With whacked out comments like this and the others quoted
in this article, why is anyone on earth even giving him a public platform to speak??


Robertson has made controversial statements in the past. In October 2003, he suggested that the State Department be blown up with a nuclear device. He has also said that feminism encourages women to "kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."
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AbbyR Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:33 AM
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77. Surely this is a crime
I think terroristic threatening is a felony, isn't it? Are there any lawyers around?

Where is Homeland Security when you need it?

Abby
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 02:31 PM
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78. His TRUE colors are showing....no Christian would say this!n/t
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 03:30 PM
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81. Isn't he the same one who blamed 9/11 on women, gays and whatever?
He should have been thrown off the island back then, he's a crackpot like the rest of those wacko 'saved' christians.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 10:21 PM
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82. Another relevant thread - US fingerprints on Venezuela coup
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2029862
Thread title: US Fingerprints on Venezuelan Coup

No one at DU will be surprised at this.

I have to wonder if Robertson is having a problem with mental deterioration - actually saying what he thinks like this isn't good policy when it reveals him so clearly as a fraud and a greedy would-be murderer.
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