converted_democrat
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Tue Aug-23-05 02:01 PM
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I just got a package from the "true majority" and someone destroyed it. |
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I went to the mail box to get my mail and someone destroyed a package that I got from the "true majority." All of the rest of my mail was fine, but this package was opened and someone ripped up the papers and destroyed the pen they sent me. WTF? The top was ripped off by a tool of some sort, if I had to guess I'd say it was a box cutter. WTF? What do I do, who do I complain to?
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Tue Aug-23-05 02:02 PM
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If it came via USPS, call the post office immediately and report it.
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Tue Aug-23-05 02:03 PM
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Tue Aug-23-05 02:03 PM
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Complain loudly and clearly to the office of the Post Master General (?)
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Tue Aug-23-05 02:03 PM
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4. That's a FEDERAL offense! |
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I really hope you find them and press charges.
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Tue Aug-23-05 02:09 PM
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10. Title 18, United States Code, Section 1703 |
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http://www.usps.com/websites/depart/inspect/usc18/desert.htmWhoever, without authority, opens, or destroys any mail or package of newspapers not directed to them, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
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Tue Aug-23-05 02:03 PM
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5. tampering with the mail is a Federal Offense |
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call the United States Postal Service, and be prepared for their cops to ask lots of questions
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Tue Aug-23-05 02:04 PM
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6. Start with the local post office, I imagine. |
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That just shows their desperation, IMO. They are goin' down!
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Tue Aug-23-05 02:06 PM
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7. Ask for the postal inspectors. n/t |
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Tue Aug-23-05 02:07 PM
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8. When in Fascistland, etc, etc, etc |
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Then go troll Freeperville and await the posts from some angry dirtbag bragging about how he/she destroyed someone's package from True Majority.
They can't handle the truth, so they try to stifle it, any way they can.
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Tue Aug-23-05 02:07 PM
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9. Call the U.S. Postal Inspection Service |
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The investigate and prosecute postal crimes. They are usually in all medium/large cities.
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Tue Aug-23-05 03:41 PM
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17. YES, SICK THE FEDS ON THEM. |
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Bringing the USPS Inspector down on someone's head is a highly effective tactic. Sounds like a pussy office, right? No, you have to remember that the postal system is federal and messing with the mail carries SERIOUS PENALTIES. People have been locked up on mandatory minimum sentences for decades just for stealing the neighbor's mail.
And postal inspectors aren't afraid to brandish that big stick.
When in college, we called them in because the University housing authority was having the dorm resident assistants withold our mail to force us to come to a pointless "floor meeting." We just asked the postal inspector to work them up and down on the phone, and that's all he did. Not only did we have our mail pronto, we pretty much had the housing people under our heel for the entire school year. Whenever they got on our nerves, we'd remind them the statute of limitations hadn't run out and of the jail penalty for interfering with mail and threatened to press the case, and they'd back off.
I'd hate to be whoever messed with the Crawford Peace House's mail. I would guess that the postal inspector is much more aggressive about pursuing officials that work inside the system.
You should definitely call the highest ranking Postal Inspector you can find for your state. Also, after you have his card/info, you should call the "true majority" office, give them the inspector's contact info, and ask them to follow up with anyone that lives nearby you on their mailing list and ask them if their mail got mangled, too, then follow up with the Inspector.
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Tue Aug-23-05 04:17 PM
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19. Thank you for your input, I called and reported it. |
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I am supposed to get a call back within a business day.
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Tue Aug-23-05 02:26 PM
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11. mine came to me all in order. i am in texas, lol where are you |
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bitch to postal especially in lew of cindy crawford and peace house mail not being delievered
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Tue Aug-23-05 02:58 PM
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Tue Aug-23-05 02:27 PM
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I've been down this road before, trying to get resolution for a client for non-controversial mail that was getting ripped up -- never did resolve what was happening to it. The best we could do was pinpoint it to the local postoffice, but no one would fess up and there was no way to prove intent.
It's easy to cry Federal Crime but quite another to prove it.
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Tue Aug-23-05 03:23 PM
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Tue Aug-23-05 06:01 PM
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21. Well, we didn't take it to that point. . . |
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but even so, what would fingerprints prove? Even if you could get the route carrier's prints off the piece, it'd be unnecessary, since we knew who ultimately delivered the piece. And even if there were other postal handlers' prints on it, how do you prove they were the ones who damaged the piece?
In our case, the complaint was made known, the postal authorities spread the word throughout the local office, and we've not had troubles since, so it was ultimately resolved in our favor.
If I had to guess what happened with the OP, unless there were other instances of progressive mail getting destroyed, I suspect it could have been something as innocuous as a machine jam.
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Tue Aug-23-05 02:28 PM
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13. Every copy of ADBUSTER I ever get is defaced |
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I guess it happens in Canada before it gets here? Huh.
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Tue Aug-23-05 03:34 PM
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16. Print out a picture of shrub, tear it up, put it in the mailbox |
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on a day you've got nothing else going out, and put the flag up. :evilgrin:
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Tue Aug-23-05 03:49 PM
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18. Don't expect too much from the USPS |
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Someone took mail out of my mail box (and my neighbors), we reported it to the local Post Office (along with the guys name/address)and they said "contact the Sheriff". I did, the Sheriff's office said "contact the USPS"! :eyes:
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Tue Aug-23-05 04:32 PM
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20. Yeah, you have to "boink" the system. |
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Usually the local post office is not a good place to start. Above them is several layers of bureacracy. If the guys at the top aren't, someone inbetween will be bored enough to revel in the excitement of your case. Or have an axe to grind that he can use your case for.
(I'm to understand that the USPS is second only to the school system for the level of petty backbiting that goes on among the workforce.)
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