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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:56 AM
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Have You Wondered Why Terrorists Haven't Attacked Us Again??
Don't you find it odd?? Obviously it isn't because we have done such a super bang up job of protecting the country (we've lagged, sat on our butts, not alllocated money, misspent the money allocated, have gaps that a herd of wildebeasts could thunder through on our borders and ports, etc.). I'm not talking about some grand slam hit like 9/11. But it seems that in such a vast nation as ours there would have been the smaller, easier to carry out acts of terror that in the wake of 9/11 would have had as big an effect (i.e., like the bombings done in London or Madrid). And, of course, the idiotic and simplistic "we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here" just doesn't cut it. Sometimes I wonder (cough, cough) just exactly who is giving the orders in the terrorists' chain of command????
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:59 AM
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1. w.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:59 AM
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2. delete - dupe
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 08:02 AM by Jim Sagle
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:59 AM
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3. George and Rove have been too busy...
...running from Plamegate and Cindy to arrange one?

:evilgrin:
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:02 AM
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4. Again?
When did they...oh, never mind.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:03 AM
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5. Cuz they haven't been given the go-ahead signal for the next one
from * & Co? :shrug: :shrug:
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:20 AM
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11. That has my vote too
I pity Americans that don't believe their government would sell them out for national security, for profit, or for whatever moves them to play with their toys.

They don't value human life. They don't value our nation. There is no reason to suspect them less than any terrorist, and in fact, the CIA and other feds are so accustomed to working with terrorist groups (train some of them in fact), there is no reason to not believe our own people are likely perverted by that mentality. Lie with dogs...

I just pity the Americans that don't believe it could be so, or strongly resist looking into it for that reason. They can't really look at the facts, and second guess all of them, because IF it were true, it would invalidate so much of what they believe to be true about the world. And our nation. They hear us talking, but they still say there isn't proof. I was told that yesterday by one I consider very intelligent and thoughtful. Nothing I can say. The information is available on the internet, books and magazines. Stories that don't add up. People speaking up for no personal gain.

But in looking at the Iraq war, and so many other actions where human beings have been run over and murdered in large numbers, all for no good reason, I can't understand why they'd trust these people to not do the same to them. The predilition is already there; why do they believe wouldn't be in the same sights? These people are INSANE, and murders too. No one with half a brain denies it. They are insane. They are murders. They have lied, about many things, including a major war.

I think they've waited this long for further acts of aggression in this country against American people to help with the shock effect. They're waiting to use it, and if they committed small acts, it would be seen as "just one more", even if it's very much larger. This way, one big punch, like 911 or something much smaller, they get maximum bang for the buck. They're saving it. Waiting, waiting for something.

Midterms or the election is my guess, hard to tell which, but you can lay odds that we'll get tons of warnings to indicate we're about to be attacked. Whether they do it or not. it will all be about "terrorist activity" We'll be lead to expect it, and that will easily diffuse the suspicions of folks like us, because proof will be provided ahead of time. "See, we SAID it would happen, so how can you argue?"

And they won't make the same mistakes they did in 911. Not nearly as many loose ends. Anyone in the way has been removed by now. Free playing field.

So I'd venture to say we'll have advanced warning. Those paying attention will probably have time to vacate. Relocate. IF they can.
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:25 AM
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15. whatever4---That was excellent. I hope everyone reads your reply
Wish we could 'nominate' a reply within a thread seperate from the thread because what you wrote is sooooooo, sooooo true. It's worth reading and re-reading.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:46 AM
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21. i second that one...
that was an excellent reply...i thought the same thing...wishing i could nominate a reply.
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:39 AM
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31. Thank you
I used to have a really loud voice, and sometimes I think I should just be propped up on top of a building somewhere to scream this stuff out. Public speaking? Just hand me a script, or, let me go off ranting, I don't think I'd even notice no one listening. Save wear and tear on the forum ;)
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:36 AM
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30. What??
Oh, now you guys are just picking on me! Must be; that was a sorry rant, and I just got slammed for one in another thread that I thought was, actually, not quite as rantlike as I tend to get.

Thank you :)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:03 AM
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6. Anthrax?
not another attack?

I was reminded of that yesterday. We have been attacked again-same results no arrests no accountability.
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Palladin Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:13 AM
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7. Anthrax culprits known
The FBI has known who was behind the Washington anthrax attacks since November 2001. They have video of an ex-military ex-scientist at Fort Detrick, the main bio-weapons lab of the US government, breaking into the place and stealing the stuff. He hasn't been indicted or arrested, similar to the treatment afforded other perps around 9-1-1.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:14 AM
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8. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:18 AM
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24. I hadn't heard that. Do you have a link?
And welcome to DU!
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:16 AM
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9. The alert level has not risen since Election Day
No big warnings over the holidays, nothing. They raised the level for trains and such after the London 7/7 bombs, but it's back down now.

I think we're supposed to believe that * is making us safer. :puke:
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:21 AM
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12. Right; save it for midterms nm
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:17 AM
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10. What's the expression?...
something like "Never get in the way of a perfectly good train wreck"

Maybe Bush is doing such a good job at dividing the country, and spending it into oblivion, that the terrorists' goal has already been accomplished.

Sid
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:28 AM
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17. That's assuming
They weren't working together in the first place. All those Saudi royals, being shuffled out of the country, quickly, quietly, and with VERY little apology for it later.

Rich oil men, hard to believe they don't work together. Or rather, hard to believe they STOPPED working together, at any point in time. And isn't Bush a royal personage too, really?

Taking us down for profit. The most stable nations are firm dictatorships, not democracies. He wants profit, and he wants us to be stable. Wasn't this the only way to make it happen? Police state equals stability equals profit.

I'm pushing the idea that they were working together all along. Their goals don't accidentally look the same. They ARE the same, and were all along.

They're crazy, but not stupid, and when it comes to money, they shine like new pennies. Nothing is done by accident when it comes to money.
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:30 AM
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18. They are "terrorists." Their goal is to terrorize.
They don't want to defeat us, hence our efforts at defeating them have been all in vain. They don't even want to attack us, though their hatred of us is strong enough to warrant a constant barrage of attacks. All they really want is to make us afraid, to live in fear of an attack; just as effective as an actual attack to them. And with Shrub & Co. in charge of things, their job of terrorizing us is much easier.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:22 AM
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13. that's what I've been telling people
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 08:26 AM by notadmblnd
I live in Michigan. The city of Dearborn has the largest Arab population outside of the Middle East. One would think that Detroit (being a 5 minute drive from Dearborn) would be a war zone by now.

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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:22 AM
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14. Because we were not attacked in the first place
The whole thing is a Bush farce.
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:27 AM
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16. I've wondered that too..I have always felt that the collapse of the
WTC was not expected on their part. But, I would have expected more frequent, smaller attacts. Of course, BushCo tells us that they have stopped numerous attacts. Only problem is, that they cant prove it, ya know? I guess I could say that I personally prevented 14 bank robberies in the past year, and someone would have to prove I didn't.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:34 AM
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19. The election is over and the repubs control the Congress, too
They got what they wanted. Amazing how those Homeland (In)Security alerts stopped after the election, isn't it?
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DawnneOBTS Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:43 AM
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20. As soon as the chimp's approval hits rock bottom, there will be one n/t
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:00 AM
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22. geography
I think it's the logistics that keeps us from being terrorized more than anything else. Terrorizing a country located half way around the world can't be easy.

:shrug:
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:31 AM
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28. What about all those sleeper cells that were allegedly already in the US?
It's been nearly four years since 9/11 and not a peep from them. Unless the sleeper cells are as asleep as Bush** supporters are?

Certainly can't be our borders keeping them out.

Just mulling....
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:07 AM
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36. but it took 8 yrs between the WTC bombings
My guess (which isn't worth much btw) is that if terrorists want to attack America again, they're going to want to make it just as big if not bigger than the last. 9/11 was so huge, so horrible, that the terror from it still exists today.

Judging from that attack and the orchestrated bombings in London, it seems as if their aim is more than just to bombing stuff...it's as if they see a sick kind of beauty in massive, well thought out and original plans.

I would imagine that if a terrorist is less concerned with killing people quickly and more concerned with psychological warfare and forcing a nation to spend large sums of money for an unobtainable sense of protection, then they would have the patience to execute a few major attacks rather than a car bomb here or there every few months.

If this is correct, then it's very short sighted of our government to only rely on defensive measures when it comes to foreign policy. Their patience would work in our favor if we concentrated on changing hearts and minds rather than killing parents and children. At this rate, we're probably breeding both kinds of terrorists; those who want to kill us quickly with the usual car bombs or suicide bombs and those who prefer to execute extremely sophisticated attacks.
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:08 AM
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23. They need another 43 million dollars.
Seriously, I live in a community that is overrun with mexican immigrants. If they can get in a terrorist can. If you can cook Meth you can make explosives. Yet not so much a a grenade has gone off in 4 years since 9-11-01.

It was an inside job.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:20 AM
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25. Because it's not time to invade Iran yet? You don't roll out a new...
product in the summer when no one is paying attention.


Hillbilly Hitler art:



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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:08 AM
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35. That would be my guess...The other shoe has yet to drop...
No way they invaded Iraq just to create Western Iran.
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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:24 AM
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26. Credit France
Or at least that's what I read, some months ago here on DU.

Apparently there were a few attacks planned on major urban areas in the past four years or so. French intelligence, which has plenty of Arab-speaking agents, found out about it and tipped us off. Sorry, don't have a link.

I love giving that information to freeper types -- stops them in their tracks.
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:25 AM
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27. Ever wonder how it is that
Madrid got hit just at the moment one of their political leaders stated he would pull out the troops......and London got hit just after one of their political leaders stated that Britain would begin to draw down troops.......no coincidence there.......:eyes:
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:32 AM
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29. I'm shocked that anyone takes the 'inside job" stuff seriously
I would like to remind some of these posters about what we (the people in NY and DC) went through that day, not to mention what the people on the hijacked flights went through. Do you know that I can hardly look at the city skyline without tearing up to this day? I lost people from my high school and college classes. My town lost our fire chief who worked for the NYFD. One of the women I worked with lost her daughter. I know people who still haven't emotionally recovered from what happened and I'm one of them.

I despise Bush because he has gotten us entangled in Iraq right when we need to pay attention to OBL and his minions who are a very real threat. Don't you remember OBL on the news way before 9/11? The Clinton Admin IDed him as a threat. At the time I thought it was ludicrous, he was just one dude fer crying out loud. I was very wrong.

I do not believe for one second that 9/11 was Bush's doing, or the Carlyle Group's, or Halliburton. Yes, they capitalized on it because they are greedy pigs, but they didn't DO it.

I don't know why we haven't been attacked again. I fully expected that we would be. My family even seriously considered leaving NY to be safe. I think they will eventually attack again. It was 9 years between the 1st WTC attack and the second one.

The idea that they don't really want to attack us is insane, IMO. I think that they are plotting to inflict major damage. If I were them I'd be looking at our oil refineries because like it or not our lives would come to a screeching halt if they could get one or two major ones. As horrible as 9/11 was you can thank your lucky stars that they didn't crash into several refineries. Ho boy ... what a worse nightmare that would have been.

Just remember that there are real enemies out there and they do stuff like chop people's heads off. Yeah, I know, we do plenty too, but c'mon ... THEY (OBL's minions) are bad too. Very very bad.
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:44 AM
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32. Yes, OBL, was in the news before 9/11
He was helping us out and being funded and trained by the CIA against the Russians in Afganistan, etc. He was our buddy. Yes, he went on to do nasty things to us prior to 9/11. And the motives of greedy oil companies, etc. were the same prior to 9/11 as they are today. Who said it was only 9/11 that the cartel financed?? Maybe they could see that if we weren't hit hard right here on our soil, we just wouldn't get all whooped up enough to go invade in the Middle East since the other attacks didn't produce enough vitrol here in the US of A---they want the ME in their backpockets more than they want life itself.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:07 PM
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37. so naive... it's all drugs, guns, and money n/t
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:46 AM
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33. How many years were there between the first WTC bombing and 9/11
Oh yeah, there were eight. And in between that time, terrorists blew up the Oklahoma Federal Builing, the Atlanta Olympics, the Otherside Lounge and a couple of family planning clinics.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:49 AM
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34. Why attack us when we are attacking ourselves ??
Don't interfere with the enemy when they are destroying themselves is applicable in this case, imo..
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