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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:08 PM
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Helpful hints and tips for the first time traveler to Crawford Texas
There have been many beautiful accountings of the Crawford Peace House/ Camps Casey experience, that I thought I would post from
a different perspective. Those of practicalities. Little things
I'm glad I did, and others I wished I had thought of. If you are headed to Crawford, perhaps my sage advice will make your journey
just that more sublime.


Katinmn and I flew into Austin. My first suggestion to you, BUY
a GOOD MAP. We used the rental car agencies map, which was not a good idea as it is not detailed enough. We took 35N all the way to
84 to get to our hotel in Waco. Too many stop lights, too much
traffic, and a heck of a lot of back-tracking. If we had had a good map we would have taken Route 35N onto 6N to 84 saving much time and sanity. Anyone out there can offer tips on how to better get there from Dallas?

Put a change of clothes on your carry-on. I usually do this, but
excitement overtook sensibility, as well as so little time to organize. My Luggage didn't make the connection in O'hare (surprise-surprise) However if this should happen to you there are a few malls in town. I found a Marshall's and bought some clean undies, etc. REAL CHEAP there.

Stop at the Peace House first. The folks volunteering there
are warm and inviting. They have usually been around for
more than a day or two, and understand the layout/ flow of the
area. If you have a special skill or wish to volunteer in
some capacity, let them know. If needed they will gladly accept your help. As an RN with critical care experience, they put me to work almost immediately. Volunteering at Camp Casey is beyond satisfying. There are so many jobs to choose from preparing food, clean-up and trash details, directing traffic, shuttle bus driving, carrying supplies, and more.

Park your car at the Peace House, and take a shuttle. They have a few large shuttle vans that are wonderfully air-conditioned. You may
have to wait a bit for one to come along,(usually not longer than 30 minutes) however getting lost out there is NOT FUN! Not
saying I got lost out there... Many volunteers are using there own cars as well. Parking can be difficult to find at the Camps Casey.

Last weekend there was catered gourmet food, breakfast, lunch and dinner, offered for free, around the clock. Cash donations are
appreciated. There was always seating available under the large
tent. The shade the tent provided was priceless, however it is still very hot. Cold water and energy drinks are abundantly
accessible, and also free. Drink a bottle every one to two hours.
Everyone laughed at me when I asked them "Have you been peeing?"
but you should try to urinate at least every two to four hours.
The porta-potties are cleaned every day, and there is anti-bacterial
gel located outside of them for your good hygiene. Watch out for your fellow man-woman and child. Heat exhaustion comes on so quickly. If someone tells you they feel light-headed,
have abdominal cramping or nausea, appears a bit sluggish, get them
to the medical tent stat. They need to be cooled down, re hydrated, and monitored for a while.

I didn't notice too many bugs or red ants at Camp Casey 2 during the
day. That doesn't mean you should let down your guard. However, I
tromped my big hot boots through the airport, and the feet were burning hot. Sandals are okay there, and so much more comfortable.
I recommend bringing the "squirt type" water bottles. Spraying water
onto your skin is such a nice treat in that heat.

There are tables near the medical tent with many different flavors
or bug spray and sunscreen. Feel free to use them, that is what they
are there for. Other items that are available for the asking are
Motrin, Benedryl, Aspirin, and feminine hygiene products. I passed the baton to Dr.Maria- and she will be there through Thursday. So
another RN and or MD would be appreciated.

Some items I noticed that would be appreciated are small dish towels
donated for dipping into ice water for the treatment of heat exhaustion. Tums, Mylanta,more Tylenol, Motrin and Benedryl.
More medical gloves. 2x2, and 4x4 gauze with kling wrap.

A few more things. I'm not sure, maybe someone who is there currently can let us know. But they may only be catering food
on the weekends.

Bring the camera- There are a few places in town of McGregor where
you can make a disc cheap, delete pics and start all over again.

Not that I have to say this, however, no drinking, or drugs on
the premises. Get back to your hotel before 12pm if you are outta
beer. One or two just before bed really was nice.

Say thanks to the local law enforcement on the scene. After a few tenuous moments at the start of Cindy's vigil, they have become
a friendly, valuable asset.

Be well!
Debbie

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:09 PM
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1. Nom for greatest page so it will hang around :) nt
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:13 PM
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2. Thanks so much! Recommended!
:yourock:
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lynettebro440 Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:18 PM
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3. Thank you
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:22 PM
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4. LOl I just finished the
nine book mystery series on Jack Reacher http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/series/-/348/ref=pd_sr_ec_ser_b/102-7430113-5736137

No matter where Jack is, in Texas in the summer or other places, he does not believe in backpacking or doing wash. He just buys new cheap clothes every four to six days. :silly:

The series is very good. Jack is an ex-Army Military Policeman.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:50 PM
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10. I am reading The Enemy currently....
Reacher's clothing habits are so odd.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:09 PM
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13. the enemy was good
I enjoyed him being back in the Army.

One Shot is the most violent Reacher at the end. But very good and standard Reacher. LOL...
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:20 PM
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15. I haven't read One Shot yet....
but I'll remember what you said about the violence.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:47 PM
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16. I think I met a few folks like that!
Some who came for a day, and decided to stay.
Good souls, with bad B.O.
They have earned their wings!
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:24 PM
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5. With this heat, water is VITAL, so that's an excellent tip you're sharing
People don't always realize just how hot it is here. With the heat index, the temperature has reached nearly 125F (yes, that's one hundred TWENTY five!). It's stifling. Dehydration creeps up before you know it and then clobbers you all at once. Drink lots of water before you get outside, drink water while outside, and keep drinking water when you return indoors. If you're thirsty, you're already dehydrated.

Yes, I've learned this the hard way. So, pay attention to PuraVidaDreamin and drink your water!!
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:34 PM
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7. Good job, PuraVidaDreamin. I'm an RN as well, and when I was out there
the camp was still being set up on the side of a road.

I would get so worried watching people out there doing hard work and not drinking any water.

I did what I could to encourage people to drink up, and had one occasion where I emptied a bottle of water over someone's head to cool them off.

I also walked around misting people, which several others were doing as well.

I'm so glad to hear that a medical/first aid tent is operating there. Thanks so much for being there. MKJ
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:53 PM
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18. Geez BHP, so sorry we didn't get to be there
at the same time. Perhaps we will meet next year.
Because I clearly get the feeling we will be vacationing
with the prez again.

Another thing was walking around with an umbrella!

Perhaps someone out there may want to donate
umbrellas??????? Or bring one and leave it
for others to use.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:57 PM
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20. We should plan on it!
It would be great if nurses mobilized, the way they've done in CA against gropinator.

MKJ
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:49 PM
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17. Yes TX, even in the shade it's so easy to overheat.
When doing 24 hr mtn bike races (Yeah bushy, lets
see you do that) we had a saying. "Clearity"
Pee til clear.
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PapaJoe Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 08:52 PM
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38. de Bait
Cindy, can you read this? That guy Qualls wants a debate with you. Please, take him up on this. Right and reason will prevail. You can and should do it. (and it should be more informative than the one you are going to have with the Post Turtle)
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:26 PM
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6. I read that lead as "first time-traveler to Crawford"
and thought, that would be cool to come back from the distant future to witness the beginning of the end of the Bushco coup.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:55 PM
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19. The not so distant future would be okay with me!
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 02:55 PM by PuraVidaDreamin
:hi:
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:48 PM
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33. Same here
I was thinking it would make a good Sci-Fi story. :-)
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:40 PM
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8. I would like to add just one thing
Toss a little cash into the tip jar at the Peace House. Somebody has to pay the bills there.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:57 PM
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21. also don't forget to put a tack into the map of the US on the wall
proudly showing where you have journeyed from.
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:46 PM
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9. Sounds like you're back but STILL providing TLC to all!
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 01:47 PM by dxstone
Welcome back! So glad you all made it there and back safely!
Boy, what a list of really neat and helpful info; you are a nurse's nurse, sounds like to me!
I'm sorry I didn't have the opportunity to meet ya this time around... but I have high hopes for Sept!
For all you did out there, and continue to do now, thank you SO VERY MUCH!
:applause:

:toast:

d
ps: Reading this and Kat's thread, I see that the experience was quite rewarding in and of itself! And Joan Baez musta been the cherry on top!
Luckies! :silly:
Seriously, reading these is such a positive experience, makes one feel just a little closer to being there, and the feelings of joy and unity and hopefulness you both write of seem wonderfully contagious, even from a great distance...

(edited to add: NOMINATED!)
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:03 PM
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22. Oh I'm so hoping we get to meet in DC
Kat is a love
Frictionless is a sweety
DA&DASis are outrageously lovable
Anarchy- WOW
All the Texas DUer's are truly special human beings.

I'll post some photos soon, but got home, had to
catch up on stuff, then went back to work.
Finally got some food in the fridge.

Peace my friend
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:51 PM
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11. Kicked and nominated.
Those are some great suggestions. It sounds like your skills are very useful down there.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:56 PM
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12. Great tips.
Especially on the directions. Ya done good! :toast:

:kick: & nominate

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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:03 PM
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23. I only look lost!
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:17 PM
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14. One more : PLEASE don't bring your dogs
per Camp requests.

The (few)dogs there Sat & Sun were well behaved but it's too hot and there are lots of children, etc.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:04 PM
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24. For some reason
this post is bringing tears to my eyes. I can't afford to go to Crawford! I have another committment the weekend of Sept. 24! Dammit!!

Thanks, PVD, for all you've done and are doing with this post. I wish I could do something real to help. Gave money to CPH, but that's about it. :cry:

This is such an amazing event. I guess we are all part of it in a way. The CPH has been such a tremendous force for good; I don't like to think of them fading away after this month. I hope they will continue to get donations and help for their efforts.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:05 PM
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37. The Crawford Peace House has been there since Easter Sunday of 2003
and is not going away anytime soon. Peace and thank you all.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:04 PM
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25. Bottled water request
I have been asked to request that people coming to Camp Casey bring cases of bottled water. It is very hot here and we are running out.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 09:48 PM
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39. On it.
Be there Saturday morning.

Thought I'd focus on bringing the large 2-gallon deals of water, though. The bottles are wasteful for space and the environment.

SAVE YOUR BOTTLES, PEOPLE! :)
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:24 PM
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26. Another kick for a terrific thread! n/t
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LiberalUprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 04:13 PM
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27. Thanks PVD Good tips
It was great meeting you last saturday, glad to hear you are home safe and sound, thanks for all your hard work.

We will be back in Crawford this W/E, will be staying 2 nights this time.

The route you gave from Dallas is the one we took, the exit for hwy 6 is not well marked off of I 35, ya gotta pay attention or you will miss it.

Anyone know of any motels with free wi-fi in waco?
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 05:28 PM
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28. Cool call Debbie Yay!!! Great that you got on Randi's show
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :toast: :toast: :yourock: :applause: :applause: :woohoo: :woohoo: :patriot: :patriot:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 05:30 PM
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29. i heard you too, good call
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 05:30 PM by LSK
Nice plug for DU as well. Recommended. :hi:
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 05:31 PM
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30. I heard ya too
:woohoo:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 05:33 PM
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32. I heard her too!!!
:bounce: :yourock:
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 09:51 PM
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40. I heard you too! Nice job.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 05:31 PM
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31. Heard you on Randi Debbie!
Nicely done!
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:28 PM
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34. Great practical advice, PVD!
:thumbsup:

You are one of those most competent people I've ever run into and that shines through in this post, too.

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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:00 AM
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35. Thank you Debbie. It was such a treat to meet you.
Just one thing to add about stopping at the Peace House, follow the signs to parking, park and walk to the Peace House. Please do not stop in front of the Peace House, that ties up traffic on one of the main roads into town and is a traffic hazard. Parking is just to the west of the Peace House.

Once again, Thanks Deb and to all other DU'ers that have shown up and contributed so much. One million and one thanks, again and again.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:00 PM
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36. Thank you Debbie! You said it all so well.
We miss you and wish you were back.

I'm crying. Miss you.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:25 PM
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41. kick for basic survival
:kick:
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