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Wed Aug-24-05 07:48 PM
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Ed Schultz caller: "Bushco should take out Castro". Ed Shultz: "I agree". |
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Heard it this afternoon.
After a good 3-3/4 hours of Ed's support for Chavez's announced program to sell low cost oil to poor Americans, support for Chavez position on unionization and the condemnation of the ridiculous threat of assassination of Chavez by Robertson, Ed agreed with a Miami caller that BushCo should take out Castro. :wow: :crazy: :argh:
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Wed Aug-24-05 07:50 PM
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1. Thats because Ed is a DUMBASS. nt |
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:02 PM
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11. oops, the opening post is full of shit.... who is the dumbass here? |
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why react without having an exact quote?
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:55 PM
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Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 08:56 PM by Mika
Ed doesn't have audio archives of his show. Probably to protect his waffling from being called out.
I gave an accurate summation of the gist of the caller who said that Castro should be taken out.
Nice of you to call my post full of shit. :rofl:
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:20 PM
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38. I Heard It As Well And... |
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I believe your post is accurate. Sometimes I wonder if that guy is a plant. Sometimes he says some stupid shit, like your example. Sometimes he says nothing when a sound thrashing is due. Take the caller from yesterday who said, and this is paraphrased "you people (meaning us lefties) need to just let it all go because this is all Gods will and it's all going in accordance with Gods plan. We can protest and cry all we want but * is ordained by God and it will all work out in the end." :wtf:. At first I thought it was brilliant sarcasm but there wasn't a punchline, if you will. I think Schultz even asked the caller if he was serious. When the caller replied in the affirmative, Schultz let him go on some more. When it was over ED said "thanks for sharing your views". That was it! It wasn't as if Schultz let the caller go on to show his audience how unhinged the Right has become either. He got steamrolled and had nothing to say about it.
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:27 PM
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42. So, you're a "Castro supporter" too (see post #37 for a laugh). |
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I listen to Ed often.
As I said in my original post, he was doing great with his support of many of Chavez' positions on energy and unions and then he did a 180 in the last 15 minutes (by supporting the caller's point about taking out Castro).
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:13 PM
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36. Why? Who the hell does Castro threaten? He's hasn't caused the |
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deaths of any Americans. Bush has!
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Wed Aug-24-05 07:51 PM
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:03 PM
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12. wow, now THAT means a lot.. DLC. is that like boogieman? |
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Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 08:03 PM by cryingshame
edit- is he a card carrying member of the DLC?
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:27 PM
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22. Yes the DLC is the Boogie man |
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Republican Lite, go along with war,go along with the energy policy, go along with no child left behind . Their platform is not that of a true opposition party. They offer no new Ideas. Ed is so ever happy to bash Dean as the DNC chairman, and then promote Hillary as a contender. He is always giving ground to the repukes.
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Wed Aug-24-05 07:51 PM
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Shultz is a recovering republican. Maybe a caller will explain to him that while Castro is a dictator, he's no threat to the US and assassinations are generally not good foreign policy (not to mention I believe illegal at this point).
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:04 PM
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13. Schultz is also a Radio voice that will attract many Limpball's Viewers |
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Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 08:07 PM by KoKo01
over to our side. He supported Cindy Sheehan and he supported Voting Reform when no one else was listening to it. He's supported alot of good stuff and does give voice to our Democratic Candidates who appear on his show. It's much better than C-Span's Washington Journal seems to be doing for us these days.
He's Not Franken, Randi or even our more "intellectual" radio voices who stream online...but he's really good at what he does...reaching the America that Limpball's has controlled for so long.
He's a different voice and sometimes to us more "intellectual or savy internet folks" he can sound "clueless." But...Ed Schultz will draw in more folks to our side than most of his critics would imagine. I'm glad to have his voice out there. And, some DU'ers honestly don't listen to his whole show before the jump to conclusions and post him "out of context." :shrug:
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:10 PM
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16. Thanks for posting that! |
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Anybody who listens to the show on a regular basis knows that Ed Schultz is on our side. He attracts a lot of listeners that other progressive hosts wouldn't. I think he's a valuable asset to Democrats and progressives.
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:29 PM
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23. ed maybe also was referring to the poisoned cigar plot |
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i mean, truly, ed shultz never mentions castro or any of that stuff...his concern is was the crookery at 1600 pennsylvania ave, it seems! (surely all us older types remember how the watergate era hearings uncovered all the ridiculous cia schemes to 'get' fidel castro! especially now with robertson giving voice to the foolishness regards hugo chavez!)
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:01 PM
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30. Respectfully, all Ed is doing |
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is drawing people to his side of things. The few occasions I've listened to his show were painful. Maybe it's bad luck or I always catch him on a bad day but I've heard him rant about Howard Dean. I've heard him kiss Joe Liebermans ass and a few days ago he kissed the ass of some woman who was a member of the Minutemen. Never mentioned the Nazi flags they fly at their rallies. Just happy they were stopping the flow of illegals. Sorry, I just can't in good conscience support him.
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:50 PM
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46. I think you caught him at a bad time and didn't deal with the whole deal |
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Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 09:52 PM by KoKo01
of his show. He's had Conyers on and Rangel and Louse Slaughter whose pushing for voting reform and one of our biggest progressive voices.
He acts like the average clueless Rush listener in that he takes the part of the uninformed and asks questions that the "uninformed Mainstream Media or Limpball's listening "would ask. If he sounds partisan about Dean or seems to suck up to Lieberman you have to ask what is your average neighbor who is "clueless about politics" likely to ask any of these folks if they met them?
He's not everyone's cup of tea but he's not a Right Wing Hack in Liberal Clothing, either. :D He's a voice we need. We have a lot of Americans who are just waking up to what's been done to them...and Al Franken and Randi just aren't going to get their attention. They are used to Rush telling them the "troof" and for them to decide they can't deal with Rush anymore is a first step. It's baby steps to get to the fact that the whole Repug Administration is Crooks, Liars and Thieves. Who is going to believe that when they thought they replaced "Clinton Crooks, Liars and Thieves" with "Saint Bush?". They aren't going to change their beliefs suddenly...they need a "tansitions." If Schultz sounds like Rush and folks confuse him with Rush they might just stay with him for what he says and get hooked. :shrug:
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:24 PM
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40. I actually don't mind Ed |
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Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 09:25 PM by fujiyama
I've heard him a few times and I really didn't understand why so many dislike him.
I listen to talk radio very little regardless, but I've heard Franken's show a few times and it bored me (even though I like Franken)...and Randi kinda annoyed me.
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Wed Aug-24-05 07:51 PM
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heard this right after 9-11 -- lets go after Castro! the time is right.
wha? what's castro got to do with anything?
it was just blind anger. i don't care for schultz. he sounds too much like limbaugh. thom hartmann -- he's MY man.
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Wed Aug-24-05 07:52 PM
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5. Is it just me or does that guy sound like a little like rush voice wise |
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Wed Aug-24-05 07:52 PM
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6. WHAT !? Ed is just a numbers whore. nt |
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Wed Aug-24-05 07:52 PM
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7. You took that TOTALLY out of context!!! |
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Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 07:53 PM by Mr_Spock
Why did you do that? The conversation was IF Saddam was such a bad dictator and we took him out, THEN logic says that we should take out Castro. It was a rhetorical sarcastic conversation.
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Wed Aug-24-05 07:54 PM
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i missed the exchange and i was about to turn on ed-til you straightened me out
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Wed Aug-24-05 07:55 PM
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9. Thanks for the clarification |
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IF we are to take out Castro because he is a dictator, we should also take out the "president" of China and pakistan.
Of course, someone brought up yesterday how when it's a dictator the US likes, he's a "president", while otherwise it's a dictator.
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:00 PM
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10. thanks for this -- the castro thing makes me nuts! eom |
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:08 PM
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15. No, there wasn't any sarcasm, he ment it! |
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He was talking about how when he went there a couple years ago, he was suprised how many people were taking medical/vitamin supplies. He didn't qualify it in any way. Didn't say the reason WHY was because of the embargo. The caller is married to a Miami Cuban, so you can imagine the context....
:rolleyes:
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:11 PM
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18. I heard the entire conversation. It was a nice conversation |
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I'm not sure why you would characterize it as anything more than a conversation about how sad it is in Cuba. Ed was very sympathetic.
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:02 PM
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31. I've been to Cuba many times. What is sad is the American ignorance of it. |
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But, that is because the US government violates our rights by banning American's unfettered travel to Cuba.
Cuba is a wonderful place. Poor, but not sad.
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:05 PM
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32. I am very familiar with the issues growing up in a Cuban neighborhood |
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and dating several Cubans myself. It is a terrible situation - though Fidel is not without his share of the blame eihter - there was no love lost there with any of my friends.
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:11 PM
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17. YES!! The original post is misleading |
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Ed did fine today, as usual. I actually know at least one former hardcore Republican and reformed dittohead who is totally into Ed Schultz now. Big Eddie is connecting with many of those previously led astray. More power to him.
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:14 PM
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19. Yeah, he's an ace in the hole - not everyone's cup of tea |
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but he does speak to people who want to hear some of the Republican code words - then he shows them why the Republican philosophy is totally hypocritical - I like him as well. I mean he has bad days, but he's a lot more pallatable than Franken has been lately.
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:18 PM
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20. You haven't changed my mind |
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But the original post didn't change my mind either. I don't like Ed Schultz. I do not like his voice and volume. I do not like the conservatism that seeps out at times.
I do not trust his motives. I think he is in it for the money and the glory of Ed Schultz, and the largely untapped market (when he started) of "liberal talk" is a way for him to this. But hey, if it brings the Reagan Democrats back to our side finally then so be it.
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:23 PM
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21. I'm not trying to change your mind - lol |
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I was just correcting the OP's misleading statement.
I like Dems - Republicans are destroying our country. Ed is helping. I like Ed.
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:48 PM
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24. No I did not take it out of context! |
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Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 08:58 PM by Mika
Ed spent a whole show ripping a broadcaster for advocating assassination, then he agrees with a caller who said that Castro should be taken out by Bushco.
I heard the whole show. Ed was doing just fine until the second last caller from Miami. Ed did an about face on the last 2-3/4 hours of his show.
It was not a logic based rhetorical statement from the caller.
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:58 PM
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I'm not sure what you heard, but that was NOT the context of the statement - he was being sarcastic.
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:05 PM
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The caller said that Bushco should get rid of Castro, Ed said rather forcefully "I agree".
It was not sarcasm.
I heard the tone of the whole show. I've heard Ed discuss Cuba several times in the past. He was not being sarcastic.
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:07 PM
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34. Yes, you totally missed the point of the caller |
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Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 09:09 PM by Mr_Spock
The caller was comparing the taking out of Saddam with Fidel - another dictator who represses his people. Ed played along with the reasoning because it follows if someone is a believer in the Bush doctrine then Fidel should be taken out as well. It was a totally fabricated scenario - you must have gotten emotional and missed the point.
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:12 PM
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35. Didn't miss the point. |
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Ed agreed with the caller who, after lambasting Castro with the usual Miami rhetoric and lies (with Ed agreeing and responding with the usual inane 'Castro this and Castro that'), said that Bushco should take out Castro.
I think you are too emotionally invested in supporting Ed - no matter how he contradicts himself.
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:14 PM
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37. OK - I guess you are a Castro supporter then who can't be reasoned with |
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I am going to have to leave it here - we are clearly not communicating in a constructive way here...
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:21 PM
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39. I'm a Castro supporter? |
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:rofl:
Calling someone who points out the contradiction of Ed Shultz on assassination of foreign leaders a "Castro supporter" is evidence of someone who can't be reasoned with.
Screw you.
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:26 PM
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41. "responding with the usual inane 'Castro this and Castro that" |
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"after lambasting Castro with the usual Miami rhetoric and lies (with Ed agreeing and responding with the usual inane 'Castro this and Castro that')"
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:50 PM
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45. I'm suprised it took so long |
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for your true colors to be exposed:sarcasm:
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27. thank you - you are spot on with this one |
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:05 PM
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14. He did drop, "I don't speak Cuban." Too |
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Wed Aug-24-05 08:56 PM
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28. Hannity and some "former CIA operative" are on FOX |
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doing a piece justifying assasination. UFB
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:36 PM
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44. I think Castro should be taken out as well. |
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FREE CUBA NOW.
It's been too long that the Cuban people have lived in the shadow of that lunatic fascist.
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Wed Aug-24-05 09:53 PM
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47. Was there a reason for this lunacy? |
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