kentuck
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Wed Aug-24-05 11:14 PM
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Who honestly believes we will see a democracy in Iraq ? |
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As if democracy is a little trick that you can pull out of a hat? That people who have no concept of "democracy" can somehow be persuaded to change everything they believe and worship and believe in the American concept of "democracy"? That their religion will somehow be overridden with their lust to experience democracy? That their century long feuds can be put behind them as they join hands to form a new government with equality, liberty, and justice for all?
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Rabrrrrrr
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Wed Aug-24-05 11:18 PM
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Not a chance in hell.
They might - if they are lucky - MIGHT get a minor form of democracy, less than we had in 1786, but they won't have democracy for 100 years, if ever.
THye certainly aren't going to have democracy just because our AWOL asshole war criminal in chief says he wants them to have one.
For one thing, he actually doesn't want them to have one. He, and the rest of his oil cabal, want Iraq unstable and run by one party/person - so theyonly have to deal with one person to get oil.
The oil people DO NOT want any kind of democracy anywhere in the oil producing countries, because it makes their oil bargaining shitloads diffciult.
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Wed Aug-24-05 11:18 PM
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2. Aside from the freepers??? |
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no one, not even bushCo. The desire for reform has to come from the people, not forced on them by oil hungry war profiteers.
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Wed Aug-24-05 11:18 PM
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3. It's something you have to want really bad |
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We can't make them want it - they have to learn the hard way why it's best for them. It's the old "you can bring a horse to water" expression (and a dozen similar expressions). I hope the best for them in the end...
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Wed Aug-24-05 11:19 PM
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4. I think you are selling the Iraqis short. They had a secular |
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government under Saddam, which is a start. They are better educated than you might think. I don't think they will learn democracy from us because we really don't have a democracy and less so now than ever. But if there is a democracy in Iraq, it will be the Iraqis who do it, not us.
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Wed Aug-24-05 11:20 PM
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Ask a SERIOUS question... :rofl:
Peace :hi: Nelly
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Wed Aug-24-05 11:22 PM
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6. How can we 'export' a democracy we don't have? |
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Their elections will mean as much as ours do here.
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Wed Aug-24-05 11:29 PM
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7. Who Says An Islamist State Can't Be A Democracy |
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Woman can't vote (among most other things), the mullah's can overrule any decision. But hey, considering we have already spent $1T (in current and future outlays) trying to establish this Chimpmocracy, we can't be picky.
Also, we're in a hurry. Karl sez we gotta cut'n'run before the 06 mid-terms.
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Wed Aug-24-05 11:39 PM
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8. We still have 58 Million Americans who would be happy to have a |
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theocracy and we expect Iraq to get their shit together???? If it were not for our constitution we would have lost our Democracy as the NeoCons would have dismantled it.
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Wed Aug-24-05 11:43 PM
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Civil war for decades to come with what little passes for 'government' coming from an oppressive, religious regime.
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Wed Aug-24-05 11:43 PM
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10. Republicans want it to be another Saudi Arabia, but with the appearance |
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of democracy.
I bet they can get it close to looking like a democracy, kind of like what we have in the US. But like in the US, the people who will get elected will always be the servants of the corporatocracy.
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Wed Aug-24-05 11:44 PM
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To be honest, the closest thing to it that's plausible would probably be copycatting the Iranian government.
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Wed Aug-24-05 11:51 PM
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12. No separation of church and state, women's rights, or checks and balances |
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You have to give them credit to getting off to a good start...
:eyes: rocknation
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Aunt Anti-bush
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Thu Aug-25-05 12:10 AM
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13. I just hope I live to see the day we have democracy back in the USA. |
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I seriously don't think we'll ever live to see the day Iraq is truly democratic and free. I am concerned that once this is all said and done, some Saddam-like faction will just take over the reigns and they'll be back to square one anyway...
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Thu Aug-25-05 12:10 AM
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14. There was a time when I thought we might pull it off. |
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But BushCo has freaking mismanaged the thing so horribly, terribly, unforgivably badly that all hope is gone.
Ayatolla Iraqarola here we come.
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Thu Aug-25-05 12:13 AM
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If by Democracy you mean a civil war that will last for centuries.
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