DLC Helps Spread Claim That "Progressives Destroyed America"

[Jon8503]

There is a case to be made that Democrats should go on Fox News, even if it is a right-wing network, because the network blasts its content to the general public. But there is no case to be made that any non-right-wing lunatic should take part in an event at the fringe-conservative Heritage Foundation entitled "Did the Progressives Destroy America?" Unlike a Fox News show where you are speaking to potentially swing voters, there is no "general public" audience at this event - it is an event designed to perpetuate among the Washington, D.C. insider establishment the worst right-wing dishonesty. Any participation by our side helps legitimize this nonsense. Yet, incredibly, the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) is headlining the event.

That's right, Will Marshall - President of the DLC's Orwellian-labeled "Progressive Policy Institute" - is lending his name to the event and taking part. I guess we shouldn't be surprised - this is the same Will Marshall who calls Iraq War critics "anti-American." Sure, Marshall will disingenuously argue that he will be speaking at the event to "debate" the issue. But he's been in Washington long enough to know exactly what he's doing: deliberately helping to legitimize the worst right-wing lies. If there was ever a question as to whether the DLC is actively trying to undermine Democrats and the progressive movement in general, there shouldn't be anymore. The answer is, yes they are.

by: http://www.workingforchange.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=EAF73B35-9903-A67D-D4CD06995808AC7D

Sources:
DLC participates in event about asking "Did the Progressives Destroy America?"
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/24/154043/959
DLC's Will Marshall calls Iraq War critics "anti-American":
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253472&kaid=124&subid=307

[wli]

1. Dean, where are you? Get these bastards out of our party NOW!!! n/t

[NewJeffCT]

2. That Social Security really killed us

and those labor laws, OSHA, 40 hour work weeks, the EPA, rural electrification, the FDIC, the FDA, etc.

[ProfessorGAC]

19. Now, You're Catching On!

Evil gov't programs that helped middle class and poor people ruined everything.

You're gonna have to work on that list though. It's kind of short.
The Professor

[NewJeffCT]

24. OK, a few more

How about the Hoover Dam? (would anybody live in a lot of those western Red states without it?)

the CDC
the interstate highway project
vacation time
medical insurance through the workplace
weekends
child labor laws

[ProfessorGAC]

26. Stupid Liberals!

See all the damage they did.
The Professor

[NewJeffCT]

29. let's not forget

allowing women & them colored folks vote is all our fault, too.

oh, also forgot minimum wage laws and the SEC.

[ProfessorGAC]

30. Yeah, Let's Bring Back Those Good 'Ol Days

You know, the ones before womenfolk could think in public, and rich people could abuse poor ones and get away with it, and we didn't have to have minorities thinking they were actual people.

Of course, i'm being satiric, but there are those who vote for dimwits like Silverspoon who think this way. I live two doors down from one. And get this: His family are all dem activists and three relatives are in office as Dems. So, he votes for all Dems, EXCEPT FOR PRESIDENT, because the Republicans can maintain control over all the change the dems keep wanting.

What a tool!
The Professor

[walldude]

36. Yup.. Molly Ivins book Bushwacked is a good

source to see a much larger list of what the Neo's have done to destroy the working class...

edit-warning, if you read it plan on being even more pissed off than you are now. I thought that wasn't possible.. but it is.

[formercia]

3. Will Marshall is PNAC to the core

Google "Will Marshall" PNAC and you will find all kinds of interesting material.


http://rightweb.irc-online.org/ind/marshall/marshall.php

Marshall was one of 15 analysts who wrote the Progressive Policy Institute's foreign policy blueprint, "Progressive Internationalism: A Democratic National Security Strategy". (2) Using language that mirrors that of the neoconservative Project for the New American Century (PNAC), in October 2003 PPI hailed the "tough-minded internationalism" of past Democratic presidents such as Harry Truman. Like PNAC, which warned of the present danger in its founding documents, the Progressive Policy Institute declared that "America is threatened once again" and needs assertive individuals committed to strong leadership. Its observation--"like the cold war, the struggle we face today is likely to last not years but decades"--mirrors both neoconservative and Bush administration national security assessments. In its words, PPI endorsed the invasion of Iraq, "because the previous policy of containment was failing," and Saddam Hussein's government was "undermining both collective security and international law."

[Al-CIAda]

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[HereSince1628]

4. Ahh, a big cup of bitter DLC to start the day.

This one flavored to appeal to the DLC's conservative Dixicrat roots.

[acmejack]

5. The case grows daily for a populist progressive party!

Lets see, MIA on Cindy, simply countermanding the people's wishes on the war, ignoring the plight of the working person, the list is long and tawdry.

Perhaps the time has come?

btw, the DLC sux!

[mmonk]

6. The last thing America needs

is two republican parties. I'll repeat that line continuously until they go home to the republican party.

[RandiFan1290]

7. This is exactly why

I will not vote for Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida. I will not hold my nose to vote for pug-lite ever again.

[jonnyblitz]

10. that is my mantra to the DLC apologists..

why in hell do we need two right wing parties? if people want wingnuttery they are gonna go for the GOP, why would they want a crappy imitation?

[annabanana]

8. It was the complicit media that pushed this lie..

They harped on the most unattractive aspects of "identity politics" and never, ever, ever covered the meat and potatoes of the progressive agenda. America, which knows only what it is shown rejected what they were seeing, not knowing that there was a BABY in that bathwater.

This is the central lie that the DLC is based on. Sadly, enough people bought the lie to let them get the reins of the party.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

20. You have that exactly right, annabanana!

The media acted as if feminism was ONLY about abortion, as if racial equality was ONLY about busing, as if unions were ALL about trying to get high pay for no work.

What progressives actually advocate and the media caricature of their possessions are two different things.

[Al-CIAda]

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[evilqueen]

11. If anyone has any further doubts as to the intentions of the DLC...

please do a thorough reading of the Wikipedia entry for Democratic Leadership Council.

[jonnyblitz]

21. one of the "senior fellows" was a CHRISTIAN COALITION

legislative director (Marshall Whitman)!!!! HOLY CRAP!! i had NO IDEA!! that is SICK!! :puke: :puke:


thanks for that link! I would never have known this otherwise. disgusting.

[Al-CIAda]

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[mattclearing]

13. I'm still waiting for a response from Wyldwolf on this one.

from another thread. Let's hear WW explain this one away.

[MisterP]

22. Stalinist purges? purism or Nader boogeyman? "hurting the party"?

scaring us with even years ('06, '08...)?
what other mandated folie a dieux will they be trying to force on us next? tune in next week to find out!
I know, I know! saying that they'd expect to find this on Gingrich or Rush! (of course, if the latter two said they were "conservative Dems" they'd threaten to shoot anyone not supporting their running against McCain or Hagel)

[xultar]

14. Lets kill them all. Arggggg Burn the witches! Argggg!

[Norquist Nemesis]

15. Gee! And here all along I've been told it was "Liberals" that did it. n/t

[Al-CIAda]

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[nadinbrzezinski]

17. now, now folsk lets use the correct langauge

NEOCONS are traitors and they ARE destroying America. Anybody using this language and claiming to be a Democrat, is an ally with the enemy

[spuddonna]

18. Yes, those dirty progressives...

:sarcasm:

Seeking equal rights for everyone, promoting social programs to protect the weakest members of our society... Damn Them!

Don't they know the only way we can win is to be GOP-lite?!

idiots...

[SeattleGirl]

23. Geez, can we jettison these people?

Well, maybe jettison is not the right word, as it seems most of us don't claim the DLC -- maybe we could demand that they drop "Democratic" from their name and replace it with "Wimp"!

[sniffa]

25. fucking LoveLy

x(

nominated

[LoZoccolo]

27. Lame and disingenuous clam by Sirota, also a dupe thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x149968

[LoZoccolo]

28. I should add...

...we marvel at how the Republican rank-and-file continues to be suckered by disingenuous talking points foisted on them by people purportedly on their side...now we have our own suckermakers for Democrats!

[G_j]

31. didn't get much

out of that flame fest..:shrug:

or are just pointing it out as a dupe?

[Al-CIAda]

33. ...and we ALL know if you post a 'dupe' it delegitimizes your position! nt

[LoZoccolo]

35. No, I'm just saying, there's my points...

...and I don't care to go through them again.

Plus you can see what happens when Sirota's argument is questioned.

[LoZoccolo]

34. The Sirota article fabricated spin.

All he does is say Will Marshall is participating in this debate, so his "real" intentions are (fill in whatever Sirota wants them to be). That's lame, and anyone looking at this objectively would raise an eyebrow at this tactic. It's a shame that we now have people within our party wanting to foist this kind of junk on other people within our party. We are going to lose for the next eight years or more, I'd guess.

[evilqueen]

39. explain the wikipedia entry then

and then come back and explain the participation of any DLC Democrat in a Heritage Foundation-sponsored event which is titled "Progressives Destroyed America".

Sorry, I don't buy it as a debate tactic.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

32. Hell, they also claim that they win elections despite the evidence.

'92 Ross Perot elected Clinton
'96 The repugs ran a corpse against a booming economy
'00 DLC backed Gore lost what should have been a cakewalk
'02 DLC inspired candidates lost everywhere
'04 DLC play it safe candidate Kerry lost to an inarticulate boob.

What a record.

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[Al-CIAda]

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