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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:06 PM
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Woman General Janis Karpinski Lambastes Bush Administration
Abu Ghraib General Lambastes Bush Administration
By Marjorie Cohn
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Wednesday 24 August 2005

I had been hesitant to speak out before because this Administration is so vindictive. But now I will ... Anybody who confronts this Administration or Rumsfeld or the Pentagon with a true assessment, they find themselves either out of a job, out of their positions, fired, relieved or chastised. Their career comes to an end.
-- Janis Karpinski, interview with Marjorie Cohn, August 3, 2005

Army Reserve Brigadier General Janis Karpinski was in charge of the infamous Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq when the now famous torture photographs were taken in fall of 2003. She was reprimanded and demoted to Colonel for her failure to properly supervise the prison guards. Karpinski is the highest ranking officer to be sanctioned for the mistreatment of prisoners. On August 3, 2005, I interviewed Janis Karpinski. In the most comprehensive public statement she has made to date, Karpinski deconstructs the entire United States military operation in Iraq with some astonishing revelations.

When Karpinski got to Abu Ghraib, "there was a completely different story than what we were being told in the United States. It was out of control. There weren't enough soldiers. Nobody had the right equipment. They were driving around in unarmored vehicles, some of them without doors ... So, knowing that they were ill-equipped and ill-prepared, they pushed them out anyway, because those two three-stars wanted their fifteen minutes of fame, I suppose."

Karpinski said that General Shinseki briefed Rumsfeld that "he can't win this war, if they insist on invading Iraq, he can't win this war with less than 300,000 soldiers." Rumsfeld reportedly ordered Shinseki to go back and find a way to do this with 125,000 to 130,000, but Shinseki came back and said they couldn't do the job with that number. "What did Rumsfeld do?" Karpinski asked rhetorically. "If you can't agree with me, I'm going to find somebody who can. He made Shinseki a lame duck, for all practical purposes, and brought in Schoomaker. And Schoomaker got it. He said, 'Oh yes sir, we can do this with 125,000.'"

Karpinski says she did not know about the torture occurring in Cellblocks 1-A and 1-B at Abu Ghraib because it took place at night. She didn't live at Abu Ghraib, and nobody was permitted to travel at night due to the dangerous road conditions. The first she heard about the torture was on January 12, 2004. She was never allowed to speak to the people who had worked on the night shift. She "was told by Colonel Warren, the JAG officer for General Sanchez, that they weren't assigned to me, that they were not under my control, and I really had no right to see them."

READ THE REST HERE......EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW FOLLOWS THE ARTICLE

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/082405Z.shtml
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:11 PM
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1. Devastating for the Bush Guys...how they gonna spin that...?
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:25 PM
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4. Sadly, the same way the always do it.
Bozell or another lackey will make up something about her, Drudge will run it, Limbaugh will preach it as gospel and the chorus on townhall.com will chime in. The Coward Brigade.

:grr:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:07 PM
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8. "The Coward Brigade" I luv it....:o )
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 11:13 PM
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12. The Cowherd Brigade
*runs*
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:16 PM
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2. I can hardly wait to buy her book. It's gonna devistate the Bush Admin
Janis Karpinski is no longer in the military. She is writing a book that will be published by Miramax in November. In April, she received a form letter from the Chief of the Army Reserves, "warning me - warning me - about speaking about Abu Ghraib, and that everything was still under investigation." She then got "a letter saying that he understands that I'm writing a book and I should submit the transcript for review."

"And my lawyer responded simply by telling him that I was a private citizen and I don't fall under the same requirements, which he had to acknowledge, because that's true. I'm not ignorant, and I'm not going to reveal any classified information in anything I write," Karpinski said, "but I don't need to, because the truth is the truth, and it doesn't have to be classified. It is definitely staggering, but the truth is the truth."



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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:24 PM
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3. "Woman general"? Why not "Generalette"?
:wtf:

In what way General Karpinski's gender so important that it's necessary to change the original headline of the story?
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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 06:07 PM
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5. she should be in PRISON
along with the men she had torture and rape innocent iraqis.

so should the entire administration.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 06:20 PM
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6. you should read the piece before posting..
Karpinski says she did not know about the torture occurring in Cellblocks 1-A and 1-B at Abu Ghraib because it took place at night. She didn't live at Abu Ghraib, and nobody was permitted to travel at night due to the dangerous road conditions. The first she heard about the torture was on January 12, 2004. She was never allowed to speak to the people who had worked on the night shift. She "was told by Colonel Warren, the JAG officer for General Sanchez, that they weren't assigned to me, that they were not under my control, and I really had no right to see them."

When Karpinski inquired, "What's this about photographs?" the sergeant replied, "Ma'am, we've heard something about photographs, but I have no idea. Nobody has any details, and Ma'am, if anybody knows, nobody is talking." When Karpinski asked to see the log books, the sergeant told her that the Criminal Investigation Division had taken everything except for something on a pole outside the little office they were using.

<snip>

Karpinski tried to get information, but "nobody knew anything, nobody - at least, that's what they were claiming. The Company Commander, Captain Reese, was tearful in my office and repeatedly told me he knew nothing about it, knew nothing about it," Karpinski said. But in a later plea bargain he entered into after the Taguba Report came out, "Captain Reese said that not only did he know about it, but he was told not to report it to his chain of command, and he was told that by Colonel Pappas. And he claimed that he saw General Sanchez out there on several occasions witnessing the torture of some of the security detainees."

The first time Karpinski got any clarification about the photographs was January 23, 2004. The criminal investigator, Colonel Marcelo, came into Karpinski's office and showed her the pictures. "When I saw the pictures I was floored," Karpinski said. "Really, the world was spinning out of control when I saw those pictures, because it was so far beyond and outside of what I imagined. I thought that maybe some soldiers had taken some pictures of prisoners behind barbed wire or in their cell or something like that. I couldn't imagine anything like what I saw in those photographs."

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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 06:25 PM
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7. is is her job to know
the whole chain of command is culpable

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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:11 PM
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10. Read the piece before you make out of hand judgements. eom
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:09 PM
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9. I listened to Randi about this. The big question is did General
Sanchez know, and know that Karpinski would take the fall.
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Kenroy Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:18 PM
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11. "Woman General"?
How odd...
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 04:47 AM
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13. Chimpy says "bring it on". Sticks and stones 'cause I'm the prez. (nt)
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 04:48 AM by oasis
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