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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 09:50 PM
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Another Report from Crawford Sat. Aug. 27
Thanks to everyone else for their great reports and pix. Just thought I'd add a few of my own impressions, to confirm or augment.

I arrived at Camp Casey 1 at 10:30 am. There was a group of pro-war protesters across from Camp Casey 1. I counted approximately 80 pro-war bodies at that site. There were also a few up the road--for maybe a total of 100 pro-war'ers outside of Crawford proper.

I'd say there were more pro-peace protesters at Camp Casey 1--maybe as much as twice the number of pro-war'ers.

I proceeded to Camp Casey 2, and saw no pro-war protesters there or anywhere else today, except IN "downtown" Crawford, where they've set up "Fort Qualls."

I really couldn't guess how many pro-war'ers were at Fort Qualls or in town generally--by afternoon the town was extremely congested with people from both sides of the fence coming in and out. Also, I didn't get a close look at Fort Qualls.

However, I don't see how the number of pro-war'ers could possibly have equalled the number of pro-peace'ers--at Camp Casey 2 alone, I heard one estimate of 1200 at Camp Casey 2, and I'd have believed that or more. It seems to me that if they'd had enough pro-war'ers to fill a tent the size of the one at Camp Casey 2, they would have done that, and also it didn't appear to me that a number that large would have fit into the existing Fort Qualls.

As I was driving home I heard a report on KRLD radio that the protests had been peaceful except that the police had had to break up some pro-war'ers who got into a fight among themselves.

One thing I heard more than one person mention--that they'd expected to be able to recruit more friends to come along, but their friends had something more important to do, or they were afraid they'd be rounded up, or whatever.

It was extremely hot out there today, but the protest organizers have done everything possible to help everyone stay healthy and comfortable. Just take their advice about drinking lots of water, etc., and you'll have a very enjoyable time.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 09:56 PM
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1. Thanks for doing the headcount!
Iconoclast said there was a freeper rally at the local football field. Most of the pro-Bush folks came and left right afterwards. Can't seem to find any evidence to corroborate the numbers they claimed.

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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 09:56 PM
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2. Thanks, snot! t must have been an exciting day.
I've been rather concerned for the Sheehan supporters all day but it sounds like there were no major clashes. Thank goodness.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 09:56 PM
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3. it was great, wasn't it?...
i left about 4:00. i would guess 2000 at CC II, but i don't know how good i am at that. and you are right, it was impossible to see how many freepers there were.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 09:59 PM
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4. Pro-warriors fighting amonst themselves. Badasses should sign up for Iraq.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 10:41 PM
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5. This comfirms something I used to think in the 60's
Edited on Sat Aug-27-05 10:43 PM by EC
and 70's that the ones that became Repuges were the ones that were too afraid to stand-up for what was right...no courage, chickshits. (the others were the ones that became scammers and rip-off artists )

on Edit: forgot to put the part of your post that reminded me of above: One thing I heard more than one person mention--that they'd expected to be able to recruit more friends to come along, but their friends had something more important to do, or they were afraid they'd be rounded up, or whatever.
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SledDriver Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 10:56 PM
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6. "the police had had to break up some pro-war'ers..."
"..who got into a fight among themselves."

:rofl:

Why am I not surprised?
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 10:59 PM
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7. Details here, and it IS a hoot
I couldn't stop laughing, and in fact now I'm at it all over again, just thinking about it:

Right Wing A-Hole "Protest Warriors" Beat Up by Illiterate Bush Supporters
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4475931
Link: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050827/pl_nm/iraq_usa_protest_dc_7


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