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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:32 AM
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Ladies and Gents.....Let's stick it to em'!!!!!!!!!!
IT HAS BEEN CALCULATED THAT IF EVERYONE IN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA DID NOT PURCHASE A DROP OF GASOLINE FOR ONE DAY AND ALL AT THE SAME TIME, THE OIL COMPANIES WOULD CHOKE ON THEIR STOCKPILES. AT THE SAME TIME IT WOULD HIT THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY WITH A NET LOSS OF OVER 4.6 BILLION DOLLARS WHICH AFFECTS THE BOTTOM LINES OF THE OIL COMPANIES.
THEREFORE SEPTEMBER 1st HAS BEEN FORMALLY DECLARED "STICK IT TO THEM" DAY AND THE PEOPLE OF THESE TWO NATIONS SHOULD NOT BUY A SINGLE DROP OF GASOLINE THAT DAY.THE ONLY WAY THIS CAN BE DONE IS IF YOU FORWARD THIS E-MAIL TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN AND AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN TO GET THE WORD OUT. WAITING ON THE GOVERNMENT TO STEP IN AND CONTROL THE PRICES IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REDUCTION AND CONTROL IN PRICES THAT THE ARAB NATIONS PROMISED TWO WEEKS AGO?
REMEMBER ONE THING, NOT ONLY IS THE PRICE OF GASOLINE GOING UP BUT AT THE SAME TIME AIRLINES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES, TRUCKING COMPANIES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES WHICH EFFECTS PRICES ON EVERYTHING THAT IS SHIPPED. THINGS LIKE FOOD, CLOTHING, BUILDING MATERIALS, MEDICAL SUPPLIES ETC. WHO PAYS IN THE END? WE DO!
WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IF THEY DON'T GET THE MESSAGE AFTER ONE
DAY, WE WILL DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.
SO DO YOUR PART AND SPREAD THE WORD. FORWARD THIS
EMAIL TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW. MARK YOUR CALENDARS AND MAKE SEPTEMBER 1ST A DAY THAT THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA SAY "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH"

Let's stick it to these bastards and yell in their faces that they can never control what we buy and how far we drive!!!!!!

Now, I don't expect for the people of the Gulf Coast (Victims of Hurricane Katrina) to have to follow this but the rest of us can certainly do PLENTY of damage to Shell and Exxon and the rest of them!!! For Freedom!!! For God and Country Let us NOT buy gasoline on the first of September and strike against the oil barons for the freedom of our country and all that we hold dear on this Green Earth!!!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:33 AM
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1. Stuff like this won't work.
You wouldn't be able to get everyone to agree to do it.
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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:39 AM
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4. look.......
For every person that doesn't buy gas (It takes me $20 just to get a measly 8 gallons) I'm hurting the oil giants n my own small and imperturbable way. Nations and this world we live in are made up of indivduals. The power of one can easily spread to all.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:40 AM
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5. no one will be thinking of gas protests this week
not even you
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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:04 AM
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22. Sure.....
Just use every natural disaster that comes up to keep people from striking at their oppressors, smooth.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:34 AM
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2. Another waste of time
this isn't done on a whim you know...supplies come into it.

Protest all you want...it won't make the slightest difference.

US gas is already heavily subsidized.
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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:41 AM
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6. Maple......
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 12:44 AM by VoiceOfFreedom
In the end, they still have to sell their products. You guys kare so much more cynical than I am!!! Old people have told me that I'm too cynical for my age!!!
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:44 AM
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7. You are trying to fight
a global problem locally, and it won't work.

There is a huge planet wide market for oil...some local protest will make no difference at all.

PS...you need to fix your keys.
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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:46 AM
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8. The dang keyboard!!!!!
The K key is WAY TOO sensitive!!!!!
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:36 AM
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3. Don't the oil companies just recoup any losses...
...when you go back to inevitably fill up anyway?

IMO a better idea would be to boycott only one of the big oil companies until they lowered their prices to a certain amount. Then the rest could conceiveably be forced to follow suit.

But we never do coordinate our buying power, do we? Too much effort.
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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:49 AM
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10. At the end of the day
They still have to sell their product to make a profit.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:07 AM
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23. That makes little sense to me.
At the end of a couple of days, they'll have sold the very same product to make the very same profits anyway.

At best, they'd lose a day's interest. No big deal.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:47 AM
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9. Well, if half the country stopped driving for a month, it might work
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 12:47 AM by high density
A few thousand people (generous number) holding off filling their tank for a day isn't going to do anything.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:53 AM
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:13 AM
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29. Speaking of attitude...
...you'll have a better chance of persuading people if you don't tell them to "shut up" when they politely disagree with you.
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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:22 AM
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38. Maybe....
If they disagreed with me on a yes or no basis backed up with ACTUAL FACT!! Rather Than, "This isn't going to work.":think:
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:25 AM
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42. Doesn't justify your rude behaviour. n/t
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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:29 AM
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45. I'm the one who's rude???
Look in the mirror and say that to yourself and tell me if you still don't think you're rude after tearing people's posts to shreds.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:31 AM
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:25 AM
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52. I don't appreciate being lied about.
I tore none of your posts to "shreds".

Cut it out.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:49 AM
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11. The best I can do is fill up whenever/wherever possible
at CITGO stations and help out Venezuela...
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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:56 AM
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15. Just support the Dictator
that Reagan installed, that's just great!!! Why don't you go buy Cocaine from the F.A.R.C. while you're at it?!?!?!?!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:01 AM
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:10 AM
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25. I think we are being played
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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:16 AM
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31. Prove it!!!
I'm for real and willing to do something!! You're just willing to sit on your hands.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:18 AM
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32. .
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:25 AM
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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:38 AM
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49. You're going to make Gandhi cry:(
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 01:40 AM by kerryin2004
He would never refer to anyone as a jerk.
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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:24 AM
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40.  I hope you did something tonight.
LIke filled up your car or else you may not be able to afford to again for a few months, if ever.
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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:26 AM
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43. The Price just hit $70 a barrel I heard.
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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:29 AM
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46. Scary huh.
Hard to believe oil could become so expensive under an oil man president.. YOu would think Bush could use his influence to sway those in Saudi to find a way to minimize the prices, but than again his oil business' were all failures anyway.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:37 AM
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48. You heard right..70.80 a Barrel
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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:40 AM
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50. I will go one up and say 80.
Good thing I have a full tank to last two weeks.
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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:19 AM
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34. yes, I think so as well.
He is incoherent and unaware of Chavez being an elected leader which makes me very suspicious.
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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:14 AM
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30. Hugo Chavez
Dictator of Venezuela that Reagan funded and supported throughout the 80's. The same one that we've sent F-16s to.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:20 AM
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35. Link, please.
Nothing on Wikipedia about a Reagan connection to this democratically-elected leader.
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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:22 AM
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37. YOu have been watching the 700 club too much.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1925236.stm

Chavez has seen his fortunes swing dramatically from success to failure and back again since his landslide victory in Venezuela's 1998 presidential election.
Only last July, the leftist leader's supporters were out celebrating his re-election in the streets of Caracas, but by April 2002 the whole country was embroiled in a general strike.



Maybe I am missing something?
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:47 AM
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51. Hugo Chavez recognizes the threat.
and its us !! America has become an enemy of the world.Many Latin Countries are banding together to stop the theft of South America's natural resources through any means possible,Confessions of a Economic
Hit Man is very telling very troubling.The argument becomes,"should America steal/bribe/coerce any country into submission b/c we need their resources"?...Hugo Chavez pales compared to this "Bush Crime Family" its a massive Tree of Corruption herding its citizens into
a Martial Law scenario that sadly will happen sooner than later..
sorry about the disagreement...
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:28 AM
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44. I found a CITGO today and filled up
We used the locater and drove a little out of our way, but it is worth it.

It is now the only place where we will buy gas. :)
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:51 AM
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12. Whenever you see these
stupid things, go directly to snopes.com.

This has been around for a couple of years, and is utter nonsense.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/nogas.asp

And even if you didn't have snopes to check out, think real hard about this. Personally, I only purchase gas about once a week. So a specific date (in this case Sept 1st) may or may not fall on the day I'm going to buy gas. And if it does, and I simply buy on Sept 2nd or August 31st instead, it makes absolutely no difference in the long run. Or even in the short run.

If, instead, you could get a significant number of people to not use any gas at all for a week, then maybe that would have an effect. But I doubt it.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:55 AM
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14. thank you
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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:58 AM
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17. Great attitude sonny!!!!
No wonder the Neocons are running and ruining everything how they like!!!!
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:57 AM
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16. This comes up every few months.
Then we go through all the same arguments. A few people do the one-day boycott and buy their gas the day before or after, the oil execs laugh, and everyone goes back to business as usual.

Things are only going to change for the better when enough people change their lifestyles sufficiently and permanently -- investing in and using alternative energy sources instead of petroleum products.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:01 AM
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18. Yup people still need gas
and it doesn't matter what day you buy it.
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Alexodin Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:04 AM
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21. Just do it!
There was a man named Mahatma Ghandi in India before they were liberated from the British. I’m tired. I’m putting my gun down long enough to reload and tell you a story. I don’t care if you believe it is real and true or actually happened but it did. A man named Ghandi was told by his British overseers that he had to pay for salt. Mr. Ghandi responded by walking to the ocean and dipping his hand in the sea water. So is America with her addiction to oil. Folks you can all join in making electricity, you know you can, and dip your hand in too.

Dip dip doo waa the water is fine. Lets stop complaining and start explaining how it works. Its easy. I’m being serious.

In my neighborhood we have more than one car that runs on bio-diesel. Anybody heard of it? So the problem is oil? Has anyone ever thought of actually demolishing oil as an energy source or are we just belly aching about it?
.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:07 AM
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24. And voila
just like I said...people will switch to something else when the cost of oil gets too high. Economics 101

But boycotts are a silly waste of time.
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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:18 AM
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33. Maple......
Boycotts are the only to tell manufacturers and oil producers that we don't like the way they do business. It's the only way to speak out against them, by hitting em' where it hurts, even if only for a day.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:23 AM
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39. Waste of time
Boycotts don't work.

Buy a Toyota Prius.
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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:11 AM
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28. yeah I've thought about it plenty
Why do you think I use Gandhi as my Icon!?!?!? Me and a LOT of guys have thought about it. The problem is that Fuel Cell Technology has been on the shelves since 1848 or else we'd all be using it right now!! Only problem was that the Robber Barons found oil in America at about the same time, and their descendants have been keeping Hydrogen Fuel-Cell Technology from mass implementation and application since that time.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:25 AM
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41. Oh it works
If you can put a man on the moon, you can make century old technology work just fine. :D

But boycotting gas for a day or two won't convince anyone to get off their ass and install fuel cells.

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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:02 AM
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20. And that will happen when????
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 01:02 AM by VoiceOfFreedom
So long as the Neocons remain so securely in control NOTHING will happen because people like you believe they can't do anything!! So do this.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:11 AM
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27. Huh?
When I moved to a neighborhood where I can walk or take a bus anywhere I need to go and gave up my car, I was telling the neocons to stick their gas hose up their collective ass. Just how does that prove your assertion?

When my daughter decided to get rid of her '94 Chevy and buy a hybrid, and also to take the bus to her job as often as possible, she also basically told the neocons to stick their gas hose up their collective ass. So how does that prove your assertion?

Your enthusiasm for this little gesture seems to be beyond what makes sense. Only consistent, long-term efforts are going to have any effect.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:10 AM
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26. Debunked. Repeatedly! -- This has been around the Internets before.
Not buying gasoline on one day will make NO difference at all because (a) they don't track sales on a daily basis, and (b) the total amount purchased won't change -- people will just buy it the day before or the day after.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/nogas.asp
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Alexodin Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:20 AM
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36. Define the answer
Do we need to define the problem or do we need to define the answer?
I think we know what the problem is but the solutions are still being tossed around. The answers to oil are myriad. Solutions exist. Seriously we could get off the foreign oil teet. Let's focus on tbeir strength.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:33 AM
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53. sooner or later we all have to go to work and buy gas..
and if a "boycott" did happen, the prices would still go up.. The whole system is rigged and we have NO control..

Can you manufature your own gasoline?
can you generate you own electricity?
can you grow your own food (all of it?)?


We pretend to be "independent", but we are very dependent on services and goods that we cannot get any other way..:)
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:36 AM
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54. This never will work. You really want to stick it to em?
Start a campaign of how to really conserve gasoline by optimizing multiple trips into single trips.

Carpooling. (Even with your neighbor to get groceries)

Mass transit.

True investment in alternative energy.

Getting GM to actually build a fuel efficient car instead of gas guzzlers.

Riding bikes.

Increasing office building temps by a degree or two in the summer, lowering by a degree or two in the winter.

--

Just supposing you get 1/2 the population to not buy gas one day (unrealisticly high), and supposing people fill up once a week. You are going to get a decrease in gas purchases of about 7%, of which almost all will be purchased the next day.
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gasolineboycottday Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:21 PM
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55. Repetitive boycotts work
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 01:22 PM by gasolineboycottday
Hi, I'm with Gasoline Boycott Day 3 (this Labor Day - 9-5-2005)
You can catch us on Clear Channel Tri-State Wed. Aug. 31, 2005 at 7:15 am.

http://www.gasolineboycottday.org
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:49 PM
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56. I'm not seeing evidence of that.
Would you kindly provide some?
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