Who was it that said Looting in disasters was an urban myth?

[xultar]

I don't think so grasshopper.

[elehhhhna]

1. it's a guy thing.

[undergroundpanther]

2. Looting

Busting looters is secondary or less than saving lives. People are more important than property alwaysa,Fuck property. If the Natl.guard wastes time busting people for stealing food or stuff they need to survive like medicine or dry clothes rather than helping people, rescue/finding missions getting power back on,cleaning up bodies debris,and making sure people are safe,,I can definately say greedy sociopaths and business over people types are who controls what the natl.guard does..

[stray cat]

4. Those ATM machines are particularly good life saving devices

[mahatmakanejeeves]

3. Remember

to grab only the HDTVs, because the analog ones will be obsolete in another year.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

5. Do they make waterproof plasmas?

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6. I feel for the looters.

Must be a bitch finding cartons of cigarettes or bags of potato chips that aren't water logged.

[lebkuchen]

8. Did you see those cops entering a market with Uzis?

Were they going to blow away some family down on their luck holding a bag of Doritos and warm beer?

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11. The "Uzis" might be a bit over the top.

Compliance holds, tasers and chemical sprays should be used first (although not necessarily in that order).

[mahatmakanejeeves]

18. Those new-style bags

made of metallized plastic ought to be waterproof. Think of Doritos.

Mmmmmmm, Doritos.

[lebkuchen]

7. But in a flooded supermarket, won't the food go to waste anyway?

Looting to me is synonymous with a large lower class. Spread out the wealth, then who would care about looting the local Piggly Wiggly for a few steaks?

[xultar]

15. I can't say I agree but I can say I understand.

[Synnical]

9. Pics after Hurricane Andrew

Looter at US1
Looting occurred at T.J. Max on US1 and S. 184th St. in South Dade. All along US1, most powerlines were either down or had damage and all buildings showed signs of the destructive force of Andrew. Here, downed electric wires and broken traffic lights frame a looter who tries to cross the highway. (Sun-Sentinel/Ursula E. Seemann)



Pleading for food
Christopher Castillo, 20, pleads with National Guardsman Russ Kaupp to let him get some food from a destroyed convenience store. Ray Luna, 22, needed the food for his baby, but Kaupp said he couldn't allow it.
(Sun-Sentinel/Joe Raedle)



Cutting in line
Miami police arrest a woman at the Royal Palm Ice Co. Police said she cut into the line, which had about 5,000 people, and disobeyed police orders.
(Sun-Sentinel/Susan G. Stocker)



Not to be overlooked
Spc. Michael Cleary gives a bag of ice to a boy who was overlooked in a Homestead ice line.
(Sun-Sentinel/Ursula E. Seemann)



Making an arrest
National Guard Sgt. Steven Malvita, right, makes an arrest with the help of a paramedic. The suspect was found taking merchandise from a Homestead store.
(Sun-Sentinel/Joe Raedle)



Keeping vigilant watch
National Guardsmen, armed with riot clubs and guns, on duty at the Cutler Ridge Mall in South Dade, protecting the stores from potential looting.
(Sun-Sentinel/John Curry)

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. Jeez who cares

Most of the stuff is ruined anyway.

[xultar]

14. But when you have nothing even a ruined something is worth the risk

how horrible is that. I thought America was the best! Number one!

[Cleita]

12. If you were left behind to possibly drown, it could tell

you that your government considers you disposable. It might change the way you think about the have's and have nots and you might feel this is your chance to even the score. I think if people don't want their stuff stolen, then they should extend a helping hand by making sure their government has an evacuation plan in the case of disasters for EVERYONE, not just those who can afford to leave.

[xultar]

13. I agree. I was telling folks in a thread that is why many people in NOLA

stayed because they didn't want looters to take their stuff.

The people in the thread didn't believe me. They said that looting was a myth. I'm like...YO!! I lived in NOLA. I know my people. People in NOLA loot for no reason. Mainly because they know they are forgotten.

[applegrove]

16. Protecting private property is one of the main jobs of the police in

Western society. Funny how the USA allows various levels of "protection" in various neighbourhoods. Another way their is inequality. Without policing - yes their will be rampant robbery.

So all the warehouses & factories & intellectual property of corporations is normally well protected. We should remember this as the GOP & neocons try to dismantle FDR's programs.

Why - if so much is spent on protecting property & intellectual property rights should the people not get their share of programs?

Just a thought.

[LostinVA]

17. Some of these replies about looting astound me

I've survived five hurricanes in my life, including one of of the worst ones to ever hit the USA, and looters have started their CRIMES WHILE THE HURRICANES WERE STILL RAGING. They are thieves and scum. VERY few are looting food and formula... I'm not talking about people needing food or formula to survive. They pried the plywood off of our bookstore and looted it. And the Best Buy. And the Circuit City. etc. We ran face-to-face with a group, and they threatened to kill and rape us. We were scared to death, man. A group of NG went by and they left us alone.

They are stealing private property: from homes, from privately owned store. Small business owners are often on the thin edge of making it. Very few are wealthy. They have a right to defend their property.

Looters take the NG away from other duties. I am shocked so many on this thread think this country allowing its people to live in poverty is an okay for looters to sack someone's home or business. It isn't.

After every hurricane I've been through, there have been food, ice, water, and aid stations set up ASAP, with many local supermarkets giving stuff away. There is usual;;y no reason to loot to survive... especially not hours after the hurricane is over.

I am not saying starving people should be arrested for feeding themselves and their children.

Flame away, I don't care. I'm a Democratic Socialist and have nothing to be ashamed of.

[xultar]

21. For my perspective it looks like you can't trust black folk with nothing

It makes us look bad when we loot. Most of the folks out there looting don't need it. They are trying to run a hustle.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. There Have Blackouts And Looting Galore...

The blackouts are not a life threatening situation and looting occurs....


What does the observation that there are people who will exploit bad situations have to do with one's ideological disposition...

[xultar]

20. Nothing about ideological disposition...we were just discussing whether

or not I me xultar knew enough about my former friends and family in NOLA.