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bmcatt Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:05 PM
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Recruiters getting desperate??
Just had a very odd occurence... I'm 38, my wife is 32, almost 33. Through the first semester of this year, she was going back to college, stopping only because she's pregnant with our second child.

So... The phone rings. It's an *Army Recruiter*!!! Asking if he can speak to my wife. When I ask him why, he responds that he wants to find out how she's doing in school. I point out that she's an adult and not interested. He then asks who I am and I say, "I'm her husband", so he says "Oh, thank you, sir" and hangs up.

I know that they're canvassing the public schools but now they're also going through college records??? WTF is up with this?

Please, I want the madness to stop...
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:06 PM
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1. Dunno. But they're not calling me...
So I'm definitely obsolete in the new order.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:14 PM
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2.  * is fixing the 'morale problem' in the military
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 06:16 PM by Usrename
- Welcome to DU bmcatt -
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ExclamationPoint Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:19 PM
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3. Oh yes they are
I just read about it in Vanity Fair. The recruiters are having so much trouble "making mission" every month, as they call it, they are recruiting people with serious medical conditions, people who haven't graduated from highschool, people on drugs, and many more things that would disable the troops ability to fight. And the pentagon is forcing all public schools to give personal information on all juniors and seniors to military recruiters (ie, name, interests, gpa, email adress, telephone number, etc.) Thats highschools AND colleges.
You can't blame the recruiters though. They need these jobs to support their families, and when they don't make mission, they have to do arduous physical labor (and more bad things happen, but you'll have to excuse me for not remembering the particulars).


I think we need to protest, before it's too late and we're all drafted.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:39 PM
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6. Some points I would like to make
Recruiters get a little extra pay for being on recruiting duty, once their tour is over they get assigned back to a regular field unit.

As for the "arduous physical labor", it isn't any more then a soldier
in the same rank/grade does.

Of course getting assigned back to a regular unit also means possible
deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan.

By the way the information from schools was authorized in the "No Child Left Behind" bill that Bush signed into law, just one really big problem, it would seem that Senator Ted Kennedy along with other
Democrats in Congress didn't read the damn thing.

I guess that's our Democratic leaders looking out for us again!!!!
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bmcatt Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:34 PM
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7. NCLB includes colleges?
I hadn't realized that the recruitment aspects of "All Children Left Behind" included colleges. I'd thought it was just high schools.

Hmmm... I'm still incredibly disturbed by this. I mean, if they got enough info to know my wife's name and telephone number, presumably they also got other useful information like, say, her *BIRTHDATE*, and would realize that, at least as far as I know under current enlistment guidelines, she's overage. Or maybe that's one of the other things that the recruiters can help someone lie about.

:mad:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:49 PM
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9. I'm 30 and I live near a base.
The recruiters have stopped me at the grocery store and asked me if I was interested. I've told them that I'm a 30 yr old single mom, blahblah, and they say that they can easily get me in.
I think that they raised the age (Air Force used to be only 28).
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:49 PM
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10. That single article was sufficient for me to subscribe to VF!
It shows that recruiters are VERY desperate these days.

Morale is so bad, that since 2002, over 30 RECRUITERS have gone AWOL.

One quote from a recruiter:
"Out of 75 kids I put in the Marine corps,
70 of them were fraudulent enlistments."

Everyone should read it; very well researched and written.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:22 PM
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4. College students in the database too
My daughter had her own experience with the recruiters in HS under the Leave No Child Behind Act. She is now in her 3rd year of college. We got a message on our answer machine about a month ago from the US Government. I didn't answer the phone. I guess they are looking to see how she is doing and what she plans to do when she graduates. She is majoring in Education, having switched from Computer Graphics. My daughter told me to tell them, if they call again, that she is studying in Europe. lol
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:38 PM
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5. So, the College Republicans should be getting calls, too
:evilgrin:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:44 PM
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8. They need some new greenhorn officers to ship off to Iraq.
You fall well into the recruitment age since they raised it to 42. Your wife is a primary target because she was in college, they love to hit up the campuses down here in San Antonio. The fact that they didn't know she was pregnant or out of school is immaterial. The military operates about 3 years behind in paperwork.

Don't sweat it, they shouldn't bother you anymore.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:53 PM
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11. My childrens' schools
sent home a form to opt out of the list given to recruiters today.

I have a daughter in MS and 2 sons in HS. I opted out for all three, obviously, but I thought it was kind of cool that the schools took this initiative. I would love to see the stats on the county of opt-outs.
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