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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 07:56 PM
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Dean was right...again ! The repubics WILL scapegoat
Hispanics in the next election cycle.

It's already started, Fat Pat Buchanan suggesting Bush should be impeached for not protecting the country against "invasion ".

Lou Dobbs never missing an opportunity to spend his entire hour ragging on illegal immigration.

Bush goes to Arizona, spending thirty seconds talking about the hurricane disaster, then immediately starts in on our " border " problem for the next half hour.

I think Rove has decided to lay the ground work now, and let it swell toward the 06 election. They probably have correctly figured out they've hit the wall as far as making inroads with Hispanic voters, and will most likely will feel their wrath over many issues, but if they demonize them in a subtle sort of way, it will again, bring out the worst in people, thereby giving their racist base more red meat.

Please Mister Fitzgerald.....BRING IT ON !
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:01 PM
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1. Three words for KKKarl Rove...
I think Rove has decided to lay the ground work now, and let it swell toward the 06 election. They probably have correctly figured out they've hit the wall as far as making inroads with Hispanic voters, and will most likely will feel their wrath over many issues, but if they demonize them in a subtle sort of way, it will again, bring out the worst in people, thereby giving their racist base more red meat.


Eres un puto!
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clement Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:02 PM
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2. I said this before and was called a 'conspiracy theorist'
I was theorizing on the rationale behind Bush's immigration policies.

I thought that 1. He was allowing all this cheap labour to flow into the country to benefit big business 2. For some inane reason hispanics tend to vote Republican, so Rove touted this policy as a way of permanently changing the demographic of the country to allow for more potential Republican voters and 3. To specifically create an immigration problem which Bush and the Repubs will then be called upon, being 'conservatives' and immigration is a very traditional conservative issue, to solve.

They will sell themselves as the solution to this problem, despite the fact that they deliberately created it and will campaign hard on it in 06.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:06 PM
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3. Agreed
They've been slipping with the base over Iraq and the WMD lies, thus the "red meat" to assuage the haters.
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clement Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:10 PM
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4. Watch and see. The immigration fiasco will be blamed on Democrats.....
....and liberals.

One would have thought the Democrats would have been keen enought to foresee this, but they are currently one of the most ineffective political parties I've ever seen.

There is NO leadership from them at all, no coherent message, they seem to be split all over the place and not very interested in properly challenging for power.

The Repubs are all those. Even though I think they are utter reprobates I do admire their political fortitude.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:22 PM
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5. Wrong !
That's what Dean was trying to head off when he gave the speech in San Antonio, saying directly to the leadership that this would be the strategy.
Now, if the rest of the party sits on it collective hands and not offer a separate frame, I fear you are correct.

My fear is, the spinless members of our party are like me, waiting for Fitzgerald to administer the transplant. (spine)
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clement Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:34 PM
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6. Hopefully the Dems can pre-empt the Repubs
And really hammer them over the immigration issue.

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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:58 PM
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8. O'liely was blaming the Democrats for all the illegal
immigrants just a couple days ago, apparently he has received his talking points.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:37 PM
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7. immigration is going to be huge
just listen to C-span callers, no matter who the guest is, all the callers want to talk about is immigration.

Some of that I'm positive is astroturf.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:05 PM
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9. Once they get the talking points
LOOKOUT !

People who have never seen or met Mexican will show more outrage than anybody that may really be impacted by them.

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