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hippiepunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:08 PM
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This just in: Men are smarter than women
http://in.news.yahoo.com/050825/139/5zuzq.html I shall be flamed mercilessly.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:10 PM
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1. This argument is from the 1800s
"Men have larger brains than women by about 10 per cent and larger brains confer greater brain power, so men must necessarily be on average more intelligent than women," he said.(ANI)
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TimeChaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:15 PM
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7. Would that also imply
that shorter/smaller people have smaller brains? :shrug:
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:20 PM
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9. "larger brains confer greater brain power"
Based upon this argument, any creature with a brain larger than a human's would be smarter than a human.

Hypothesis disproved.

I can safely say that there's one man who won't be receiving a Nobel prize.
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Splatter Phoenix Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:30 PM
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18. Dolphins!
Dolphins have huge brains!

Where are THEIR invented gas guzzling cars, where are THEIR world wars, where is THEIR technology put to use for the purpose of porn, scams, spam and viruses, where are THEIR nuclear weapons, where are THEIR starving orphans....

...x_X heh, I'm going somewhere completely different, aren't I. It's all about how you define "Smart".
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:33 PM
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20. Eh, they have bullying, rape, and occasional warfare too
Every so often dolphins will gang up on members of other species (bottlenosed dolphins will often attach porpoises for some reason) and slaughter them. Gangs of adolescent male dolphins occasionally force unwilling females into sex. They aren't saints, either.

Tucker
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Splatter Phoenix Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:35 PM
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21. huh..
x_X muh...I see. >_> but you've gotta think, right, they've got no hands, so where is all the intelligence going? It's purely mental, right? x_X they can't...make things...except those weird bubble rings.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:39 PM
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23. They make tools, sometimes
Some dolphins also use sponges to adorn themselves (no one knows why yet).

Most of dolphin intelligence probably goes toward their linguistic and social skills.

Tucker
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Splatter Phoenix Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:41 PM
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24. o.o!
Neat. You learn something new every day. :D Thanks. I'm a biiiig dolphin fan, always happy to add a few more random facts here and there.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:03 PM
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36. Some sources for ya:
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:12 PM
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2. Sure. We sometimes think with our head & we sometimes think with our...
:evilgrin:
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:20 PM
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10. The way I hear it, we men were given two heads to think with. . .
but blood enough for only one at a time.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:12 PM
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3. Now, I have to ask...
... how many women do you know who have ever said, "now, hold my beer and watch this!"

:)
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:13 PM
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4. Not According To The Grateful Dead/Robert Palmer
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 08:14 PM by cryingshame
Let us put man and woman together
And see which one is smarter
Some say men but I say no
The women got the men like a puppet show

Ain t me, it s the people they say
The men are leading the women astray
But I say, it s the women today
Are smarter than the men in every way

That s right! The women are smarter
That s right! The women are smarter
A little boy sat down and cried
An old man passing asked him why
He said I can t do what the big boys do
Old man sat down and he cried, too
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hippiepunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:18 PM
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8. Harry Belafonte
song.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:13 PM
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5. Yes, you shall
I'm going to work, I'll look up this thread after my 12 hour shift.:popcorn:
Just for the record: Bullshit. See you's all later
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:14 PM
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6. Yeah, but they use 98% of their brains
to think about sex or sports.... oh never mind.

Yeah, they're smarter, that's why I like working with them ;)
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:21 PM
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11. I don't understand this story.
Mrs Taxloss will have to explain it to me.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:44 PM
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26. LOL!
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Splatter Phoenix Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:24 PM
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13. XD
That's pretty funny. >_> and of course when the fashion of psychology shifts again, it'll be that hetero males are smarter than homo males.

trust me on this, psychology is a near-complete bullshit science. X_X and anything on the study of the human brain to be taken with a heavy, HEAVY dose of skepticism...

Phrenology and the escaped-slave-disorder are only two outdated things to consider...
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:24 PM
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14. waiting for the rerun of -- 'women who get education drain blood from
genitals to brain; this is very bad for procreation.....therefore women should not be admitted to higher education'

this was a favorite argument at the end of the 19th century

tiresome how the same old arguments keep getting recycled
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:27 PM
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15. I don't have enough eyes to roll...
They are misapplying the statistic that there are more men than women at the extreme right tail of the bell curve to suggest that the fat part of the male bell curve is to the right of the fat part of the female bell curve. In other words, men outnumber women among people with very high IQs, but that does not mean that the average male IQ is higher than the average female IQ.

And the statement that men's (on average) larger brains make them (on average) smarter than women is just wrong. By that logic, the smartest creature on Earth is the sperm whale (whose brain masses six times that of a human). The truth is, intelligence seems to be related to the correlation of brain size to body size--and since men are (on average) larger than women, their (on average) larger brains don't give them any proportionate advantage.

Either the researchers are being misquoted to make a "sexier" article, or they're not very good.

Tucker

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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:41 PM
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25. a quick Google Scholar search reveals
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 08:42 PM by spooky3
a woefully weak record for Paul Irwing (I didn't bother with the other author).

Very few publications, none (that I know of) in the best psychology journals, though maybe DU psychologists can confirm this; very few citations by other scholars.

This suggests his work doesn't stand the harsh light of scientific scrutiny.
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:27 PM
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16. if men are so freaking smart, why the hell can't they tell when their
mothers are passive aggressive to their wives?? huh??? cuz if i hear ONE MORE TIME, "but she didn't mean it THAT way!" uh huh..... :P
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:09 PM
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37. i am visiting my mil this weekend. i hear ya.........
but my husband damn well knows she means exactly what she is saying, hence my head exploding, lol
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:42 PM
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40. i'll light a candle for you too, seabyond
:) have a good trip!
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:29 PM
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17. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
yeah but we women always know when there gonna get laid!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:31 PM
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19. If this is true, like their dicks, most of them don't know how to
use it. Present company accepted in the liberal world. I really am talking about freepers and sexists, which is what that article is about and written by.

What a bunch of crap.

I am not sure about the sources there. I would say that they need checking.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:38 PM
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22. I read about this
in a different article a few days ago...seems they also see whites as smarter than blacks.

See, there are more successful whites than blacks, so that proves it!

Amazing how all the old hokum keeps returning in new guises.

And since neither of them are geneticists...
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Garth Beaumont Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:50 PM
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31. I'm sorry to admit it
but as a father of three daughters. The female gender is far more advanced than the male!
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:51 PM
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32. Gotcha wrapped
around their little fingers eh? :7

And welcome to DU Garth! :hi:
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Garth Beaumont Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:56 PM
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33. I got to admit it
they control my world! and thanks!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:45 PM
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27. Right. We see evidence of this every day...especially among Republicans
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:48 PM
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28. Gotta look at two things: the testing instrument & the populations tested
Any test can be prepared for. Or biased. I have always been skeptical of IQ tests because their results are considered so definitive and so final. They are not.

No offense to men or women, but intelligence is multifaceted and a single test with a single number can't really describe it.
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:49 PM
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29. Not According to the Medical College of Virginia
They recently announced a miracle--a baby with a brain and a penis!:blush:
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:50 PM
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30. Sorry.... this only proves that some men test better than some women.
Test taking is a skill that can be learned, like anything else.

I'll bet you if you tested for a different set of criteria, say....lateral thinking (not regularly tested for) vs spatial thinking (on every IQ test I've ever taken) then you might get different results. And that still would not account for other types of intelligence such as kinesthetic, linguistic, emotional intelligence and so on.

IQ test look for a very limited skill set and punish thinking outside the box (as I have learned)

My IQ hovers around 150 (yes, I'm female) and the discrepancies from one test to another are often accounted for by virtue of questions that could be answered in different ways and still be "correct", depending on whether you think visually, aurally or kinesthetically.

But if it makes him more secure in his masculinity to think so, I'm not threatened.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:09 PM
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38. Even though I'm a male, it was easy dismiss the study quickly because...
it was headed by two other males :spray:

I am guessing they were nerds

If bigger, better, faster, stronger or anything else that is an anomaly survives extinction mostly one finds the anomaly is usually the handicap in the process. Cohabitation is far more important for any species than gaining the upper-hand
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:56 PM
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34. I Believe It Was Einstein Who Said...
The more knowledge I gain,
the more aware I become,
of how ignorant I am.

So... I've learned that this male here (Me), is one ignorant mother-fucker, LOL!!!

What was your point again?

:silly:
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:03 PM
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35. heh, I tend to think people are just plain stupid in general.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:13 PM
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39. If men are smarter than women, then
why is it that we can never win an argument with them? :shrug:
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 12:14 AM
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41. 'Cause we're smart enough to lose!
:evilgrin:
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 12:17 AM
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42. Wow... a study that shows the opposite of empirical evidence...
they need these every now and again.
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