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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:13 PM
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"Gonzales Faults Senate Version of Patriot Act Legislation"

Goni Gonzales is not pleased..

Goni as in gone is freedom,civil rts,privacy ect..


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/29/AR2005082901434_pf.html
Gonzales Faults Senate Version of Patriot Act Legislation

By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, August 30, 2005; A09



"Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales yesterday criticized a Senate bill that would place new restrictions on law enforcement in the USA Patriot Act, saying the legislation would hamper the government's ability to prevent terrorist attacks.

Gonzales, during a meeting with editors and reporters at The Washington Post, said he favors a competing House version of the antiterrorism law that includes fewer restrictions on the government.

"I have a personal preference for the House version," Gonzales said. "There are certain provisions of the Senate version that make it more difficult to protect our country." He said he was hopeful that "at the end of the day . . . we will have a conference bill" that is closer to the House version of the legislation.

The poll also found that "the more the public knows about the Patriot Act, the less they support it," according to a summary of the findings. Less than 60 percent of those who know the intent of the law support it, compared with 70 percent who do not know its intent, the survey said.

The survey of 802 adults also found that only 14 percent of those polled supported all the major provisions of the law when asked about them in detail."
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:23 PM
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1. The USA PATRIOT Act is a crime against humanity. n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:23 PM
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2. Abu Gonzales!
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:20 PM
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3. Your Good !
"Abu Gonzales!" :)

It's like a nightmare episode of the twilight Zone

You know the episode where a Lawyer for the White house
advises the president on how they can get around International
prohibitions against torture so they can brutalize those they have in custody.

As a reward said lawyer is made Attorney General Of the USA.

"Abu Gonzales!" love it.

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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:28 PM
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4. Hey dbeach thanx for the info
I guess the Senate bill is not fascistic enough for

"Abu Gonzales"

They are building a police state law by law bill by bill
appointment by appointment.

ACLU got its hands on some docs that show the FBI categorizes
anti-war & pro peace groups as terrorist groups.

Slowly day by day America is sinking into this shit.



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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:32 PM
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5. holdin back thier negativity.
this info shold be front and center with many replys

ITS A YAWNER
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:46 PM
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6. ACLU: FBI labeled peace, affirmative action group 'terrorist'
rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-29-05 01:18 PM
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ACLU: FBI labeled peace, affirmative action group 'terrorist'


http://rawstory.com/news/2005/ACLU_reveals_FBI_labeled_...

The American Civil Liberties Union today released an FBI document that designates a Michigan-based peace group and an affirmative action advocacy group as potentially "involved in terrorist activities," RAW STORY has learned. The ACLU release follows.

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The file was obtained through an ongoing nationwide ACLU effort seeking information on the FBI's use of Joint Terrorism Task Forces to engage in political surveillance.

"This document confirms our fears that federal and state counterterrorism officers have turned their attention to groups and individuals engaged in peaceful protest activities," said Ben Wizner, an ACLU staff attorney and counsel in a lawsuit seeking the release of additional FBI records. "When the FBI and local law enforcement identify affirmative action advocates as potential terrorists, every American has cause for concern."

The document released today is an FBI report labeled, "Domestic Terrorism Symposium," and describes a meeting that was intended to "keep the local, state and federal law enforcement agencies apprised of the activities of the various groups and individuals within the state of Michigan who are thought to be involved in terrorist activities."

ACLU spy files: http://www.aclu.org/spyfiles

ACLU document referenced: http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=1896...

The liberal alternative to Drudge, http://rawstory.com
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:49 PM
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7. No yaning here not for me.
Hunger for Dictatorship


Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 07:14 PM by LibertyorDeath

From the The American Conservative

by Scott McConnell

Students of history inevitably think in terms of periods: the New Deal, McCarthyism, “the Sixties” (1964-1973), the NEP, the purge trials—all have their dates. Weimar, whose cultural excesses made effective propaganda for the Nazis, now seems like the antechamber to Nazism, though surely no Weimar figures perceived their time that way as they were living it. We may pretend to know what lies ahead, feigning certainty to score polemical points, but we never do.

Nonetheless, there are foreshadowings well worth noting. The last weeks of 2004 saw several explicit warnings from the antiwar Right about the coming of an American fascism. Paul Craig Roberts in these pages wrote of the “brownshirting” of American conservatism—a word that might not have surprised had it come from Michael Moore or Michael Lerner. But from a Hoover Institution senior fellow, former assistant secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration, and one-time Wall Street Journal editor, it was striking.

Several weeks later, Justin Raimondo, editor of the popular Antiwar.com website, wrote a column headlined, “Today’s Conservatives are Fascists.” Pointing to the justification of torture by conservative legal theorists, widespread support for a militaristic foreign policy, and a retrospective backing of Japanese internment during World War II, Raimondo raised the prospect of “fascism with a democratic face.” His fellow libertarian, Mises Institute president Lew Rockwell, wrote a year-end piece called “The Reality of Red State Fascism,” which claimed that “the most significant socio-political shift in our time has gone almost completely unremarked, and even unnoticed. It is the dramatic shift of the red-state bourgeoisie from leave-us-alone libertarianism, manifested in the Congressional elections of 1994, to almost totalitarian statist nationalism. Whereas the conservative middle class once cheered the circumscribing of the federal government, it now celebrates power and adores the central state, particularly its military wing.”

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And yet the very fact that the f-word can be seriously raised in an American context is evidence enough that we have moved into a new period. The invasion of Iraq has put the possibility of the end to American democracy on the table and has empowered groups on the Right that would acquiesce to and in some cases welcome the suppression of core American freedoms. That would be the titanic irony of course, the mother of them all—that a war initiated under the pretense of spreading democracy would lead to its destruction in one of its very birthplaces. But as historians know, history is full of ironies.

More

http://www.amconmag.com/2005_02_14/article.html
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