Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

So This Is What America Is Like With No Leadership Whatsoever...

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:39 PM
Original message
So This Is What America Is Like With No Leadership Whatsoever...
Every decision or action Junior and his cabal make is purely out of their own self interest and profit for themselves and their cronies.

Apparently they don't even give a shit enough to bother looking likek they CARE about devastation and loss of life.

Be it Mrs. Sheehan or New Orleans.

Like Clinton or not, he'd step up and let us know SOMEBODY was in charge. And you knew his decisions were at least partially made considering the Common Good.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:40 PM
Response to Original message
1. Now now...it's important that he get on with his life!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #1
8. He CAN'T go there
Remember, he told us he has to remain "crisp". New Orleans will ruin his crispiness.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #8
14. no kidding? did he really say crisp?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #14
18. Why he wouldn't break vacation to meet with Sheehan
"I think the people want the president to be in a position to make good, crisp decisions and to stay healthy. And part of my being is to be outside exercising."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #18
34. it really is all about him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #18
40. Well, now is the time for him to make "good, crisp decisions," isn't it?
So let's see him make some.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:52 PM
Response to Reply #40
44. The worthless dumbfuck has never made a "good, crisp decision" in his
entire worthless life - at least none that have benefitted anyone but his own worthless dumbfuck self.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DaytonOHDem Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #8
22. Bush's crispiness
I hope no one takes this the wrong way but New Orleans ruining Bush's crispiness just made me laugh. That is why I love to come here and catch up on my news because you people make me laugh, especially when I really need it. I have been lurking for about 3 years now and have never replied before. After hearing that poor man talk about his wife losing her grip from his hand today, and telling him to take care of the children and grandchildren as she floated off, it was nice to laugh for at least a second. Thanks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. Beats weeping
That man makes me want to cry, snicker, and spit nails all at once.

Welcome aboard, DaytonOHDem. I'm glad you've finally delurked, look forward to seeing you around! :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DaytonOHDem Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:07 PM
Response to Reply #24
32. Beats Weeping
Thank you Charlie! You will be hearing from me because I have had it with this dimwit. I can lurk no longer, I must reply or I will explode. I have never been more disgusted with a pResident in my life. I thought Ronnie and Bushie1 were bad! I can stay silent no longer. Screaming at the television isn't doing it for me anymore. Actually I get up and leave the room whenever his ugly mug comes on my screen. It is so nice to be around people who feel the same way I do. Thanks again!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #32
38. Welcome DaytonOHDem!
I am up in the Toledo area! I know what you mean about having to leave the room when * comes on the screen. In fact, I didn't want to see Fahrenheit 9/11 because he was on-screen so much! I did. In fact it is on Showtime right now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:46 PM
Response to Reply #22
41. Welcome to, um, non-lurker status?
Welcome, anyway! :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fighttheevilempire Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #8
29. * sure is "crisp".. i believe the term is "crispy critter"...
at least thats what my parents always called those in an equal state of burnout as the thief in chief.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:40 PM
Response to Original message
2. And ...
that he empathized with people was never in question.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. I often wonder what it would take to take them down. for a short while
today, I had hope this would. I do not know now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #4
45. Nah - instead it will give the Bushies an excuse - the economy was in the
shitter anyway, and getting worse, but now they will be able to say that it was all due to the hurricane.

Assholes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:42 PM
Response to Original message
3. You beat me to the punch. Where is the *. There should have already
been a prime time press conference. I have already heard people comparing this to the Tsunami and where is the *
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. i dread any upcoming news conf. by bush-and there will be one that is
for sure. Prob. with his Fema people surrounding him. oh, i dread it!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #3
10. Still hiding from Cindy
or looking for more fund-raisers to attend with the have-mores. Has any president in history failed to comment on a disaster of this scale for such a long time? Even King Ronald the Simple was on TV the night of the Challenger disaster and that only killed seven or eight people. Perhaps the Chimp is so incapable of even faking empathy that his handlers are afraid he'd break down laughing while talking about the hurricane.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #3
17. has it occurred to others yet ...
Where is everybody else, like the rest of the world. Are we on our own with this mess? Seems to be the unfortunate case at the moment.

I'd say that we the people do own America as no one is around to help. I just called my senator's office and suggested that they bring our troops home right now because there is a national emergency here in the USA and that we need immediate help.

Bring our troops home now for America!

This is one possible good aspect this could come to be if it is handled properly I suggest. If not, it nothing but one big :tinfoilhat: ...

Ideas anyone else I ask?

:kick:


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. Why would they care?
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 05:58 PM by Autumn Colors
Why the hell would the rest of the world respond to this after the way the * Admin. has treated them, their opinions, their ideas, their concerns, their problems? * has acted like no one's problems matter except the USA's.

Global warming, anyone?

I think the rest of the world is thinking: "You want to act unilaterally? You got it... rescue yourself."

Frankly, the way our country's government has disregarded the rest of the world, I wouldn't blame any country for not coming to our aid now.

That sounds very "unpatriotic", I know but I'm sure a lot people in a lot of countries are thinking to themselves that we deserve this. I don't blame them in the least.

Some will start spouting dollar figures that we give other countries in aid and to them, I say ... our aid money always seems to come with political strings attached. It's now payback time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #21
31. President Hugo Chavez just offered Venezuela's help
Jesse Jackson was there today and was praying about the hurricane victims in Louisiana and President Chavez offered Venezuela's help. So maybe not everyone sees Americans as you do.

American people are human beings and many if not most do not approve of what is going on here but we find ourselves to be rather powerless. Luckily, persons of esteem such as President Chavez are not blinded by hate as many are. :think:

:kick:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #31
33. ???
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 07:40 PM by Autumn Colors
"So maybe not everyone sees Americans as you do."

Uh, I *AM* American.

Chavez has been offering cheap gas to poor Americans for a couple weeks now, hasn't he? Strange that he's the only one to offer at this time, too... the only one who's had a public figure (like Pat Robertson or not, he's a public figure) endorse assassination against him.

Politically motivated? Who knows... only Chavez really knows his true motivation behind the offers. (Perhaps to get average Americans to see that he's not "evil" as portrayed by * and the MSM) - which would still be a political motivation, not a humanitarian one.

And you mentioned Jesse Jackson being there and praying. The last I was aware he was American, not a foreigner. I'm talking about foreigners' changed attitudes towards our country because of Bush's arrogance. Jackson is a fellow American.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #33
35. Bush's arrogance
is not my arrogance. I am not resposible for it but maybe you consider yourself to be.

I contend that no one deserves this, no one, no where, no time ever.

You don't happen to live in Biloxi or New Orleans obviously. To those that do, this is a horrific tragedy. It is sad to know there are those like you who have no sympathy for their fellow man based on the acts of some politicians.

:kick:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:37 PM
Response to Reply #35
37. Excuse me
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 10:37 PM by Autumn Colors
Yet more of your assumptions....

I have a friend just outside Gulfport who hasn't been heard from since this hit. Don't tell me this hasn't hit me personally.

I blame Bush's arrogance for lack of offers of help from other countries.

Am I blaming you personally ... am I blaming myself? No...

But HE IS THE ONE WHO HAS CAUSED THE CHANGE IN ATTITUDE IN OTHER COUNTRIES.

What's so friggin hard about my point for you to understand?

Jesus Christ. I give up....

G'night people.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #33
36. and furthermore - a question for you ...
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 09:30 PM by CountAllVotes
I suspect that you will not be donating any money or anything at all to hurricane relief will you being you believe that America "deserves" this?

:kick:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:40 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. Fine, whatever.....
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 10:45 PM by Autumn Colors
When I say I don't blame them for hating us .... I'm saying that BUSH'S ACTIONS have more than earned their hatred.

Evidently, I'm not expressing my thought clearly enough because what you're spitting back at me is not what I'm trying to say, so I give up.

I need to stay completely away from political forums. I thought one with all democrats would be different, but I guess not. I always end up getting pissed off.

Later people, it's been fun for awhile. How do I delete my account?











Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #17
42. Whatever happened to, "We are all Americans now"?
Oh, all right...never mind. Maybe sometime in the next few weeks it will start to sink into a few thick skulls what "losing the goodwill of the world" actually means. Then again, maybe not...we are talking some pretty thick skulls here!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #3
43. Well, hell, it took him four days to say squat about the tsunami
Why should Americans dying in a natural disaster be any different (particularly if they're poor and brown) than foreign people dying in a natural disaster in what is, to George, Icantpronounceitastan.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:43 PM
Response to Original message
5. Exactly. And 70% of the USA knows it.
Time to do something about this disaster before there's another, and another . . . Regime change, now, before America is one big disaster area.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:43 PM
Original message
it disgusting how the right wing is now whining about
helping the people who've been hurt by Katrina.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:45 PM
Response to Original message
12. Is there any hope of getting any of the media fired up about reports of
how funding was cut from Fema, the canals, etc.

any hope whatsoever?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #12
48. the media won't be fired up until most of the reporters are replaced
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:43 PM
Response to Original message
6. it disgusting how the right wing is now whining about
helping the people who've been hurt by Katrina.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:45 PM
Response to Original message
9. Hey, he made a speech...........
and signed a few papers. What more do you want from the man? He HAS to "live a balanced life", you know? :shrug: It's hard work being pretzelnit. There's not a single aircraft carrier down there and not a dry spot to stand with his bullhorn. Give the guy a break.
He IS cutting his vacation short by two days. Now THAT'S what I call a work ethic and dedication!

:sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #9
46. Wow, he's cutting short his 5-week vacation by two days?! Such sacrifice!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:45 PM
Response to Original message
11. Well remember he did take action on a vacation when...
it involved Shiavo - just a point for comparison.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:45 PM
Response to Original message
13. That's really pissing me off
We all know that Junior and his cabal don't give a shit, but now they don't even bother to put on a show and act like they care! They don't even pretend - they're all saying "fuck you, you're on your own" to the country! Arrogant, heartless bastards! :grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. and Bob Sheiefer is talking obout the break down of law and order in the
people of NO--looting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. showing some pics of people walking off with all things. food, clothes.etc
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. police were letting them take food--its survival they said.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #13
20. it seems to me that
NO ONE GIVES A SHIT!

:grr: :grr:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Qibing Zero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:35 PM
Response to Original message
23. Yep.
I disagreed with clinton on a lot of things, but he did actually put himself out there when things were problematic.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:38 PM
Response to Original message
25. I know it's scary isn't it. The only real government that
we have is at a local level. If that is wiped out because of disaster, we have no leadership or responsible governance whatsoever.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:39 PM
Response to Original message
26. Not really, he's actually deliberately trying to kill us all. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:43 PM
Response to Original message
27. The AWOL pResident
Why should we be surprised? It's not like he's not a known quantity. I couldn't imagine a less capable person who could be selected to run this country.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:43 PM
Response to Original message
28. welllll.....at least he looks like a leader
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:57 PM
Response to Original message
30. As politicians are bought for the highest dollar,
we've been leader-free for something like 20 years. With Clinton being the best of the bunch, but even then I still have a lot to say on that...

Still, nobody's perfect! :-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:59 PM
Response to Original message
47. Yep this would be it, zactomento!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 16th 2024, 02:36 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC