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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:46 PM
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LSU hurricane expert on CNN just estimated 100,000 drowned
Said approx 250,000 to 300,000 did not evacuate and their computer model whatever that is says approx 1/3 of those drowned.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:47 PM
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1. Whaaaaaat?
OMG.


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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:47 PM
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5. And Geroge Bush vacationed through the whole thing
OMG
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Francine Frensky Donating Member (870 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:12 PM
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44. And homeland security is botching the recovery effort
lots of miscommunication going on is the main problem I see, and the lack of preparation and organization...and it seems like no plan for the future for all these homeless people.





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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:39 PM
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52. No he didn't. He took a cake to John McCain and he played guitar
with a country music dude.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:42 PM
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54. Dont forget his #1 priority, he fund-raised for the repub party which
was the reason he went there in the first place.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:47 PM
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2. OMG!
:cry:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:47 PM
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3. That can't be true
please god don't let that be true
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:50 PM
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14. even if it were 10% of that number it would be "catastrophic"
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:47 PM
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4. OMG
my god
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:48 PM
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6. God, that's worse than I thought.
And I already thought it was pretty bad.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:48 PM
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7. oh my god.
please don't let that be true. please don't let that be true.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:49 PM
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8. I dont know if these numbers are accurate, but
on Sunday, an expert had estimated there could be has high as 40 000 people killed in NO, given the fact that about 100,000 people had not evacuated from the town itself.

These numbers are frightening. I have sometimes the feeling that people do not see the size of the potential tragedy.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:57 PM
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28. size of the potential tragedy
I saw a woman yesterday in NO. She said she didn't have any insulin, she is a diabetic.

I saw a woman yesterday in Miss. who had a premie baby in her home with no power or water. She said the hospital would not take her baby in because she did not have insurence.


:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:49 PM
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9. WOAH!
Sorry, but I don't see it anywhere near that bad,

I could be wrong, though.
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Arkansas Democrat Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:50 PM
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15. God, don't let this be true!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:49 PM
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10. It's possible if he's talking about the whole area Katrina hit...not just
New Orleans. Seems high...but how would we know who stayed in all the washed away homes or mobile homes..:shrug:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:51 PM
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17. Sunday, the estimations were than 100,000 people remained in NO
I dont know if these numbers are accurate, but I am afraid that the real numbers are a lot higher than the officials tell us.

NO mayor said earlier the victims were in the thousands for NO alone.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:57 PM
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27. The guy on CNN was referring to the entire area affected....
... by Katrina, the way I heard him. He said that they estimate 250,000 to 300,000 people in the entire affected area remained behind.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:49 PM
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11. I heard that too! I thought I was hearing wrong on the 1/3rd figure
that equates to around 76,000!
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:49 PM
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12. URL to quotes, captured video, anything? n/t
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:50 PM
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13. Oh, God!!!
Oh my God!!
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:51 PM
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16. That's more thant the Asian tsunami. Sounds very high.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:03 PM
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32. population density is higher
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:04 PM
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33. No it's not.
Tsunami killed over 220,000.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:06 PM
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38. Last count I saw on the tsunami
was 226,000 dead.
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dejaboutique Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:52 PM
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18. is this true?
? please no
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:53 PM
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19. The mayor has already started preparing people for
the horrific death toll. It is beyond belief that that many people are dead - I so want him to be wrong. This expert has been really close on all the other things concerning Katrina, but OMG, please let him be wrong on this one.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:54 PM
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20. As horrible and
heartbreaking as this sounds, he is probably close....or possibly more.
They will probably never know the exact number due to many people living in extremely remote areas.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:54 PM
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21. Oh my god NO.
I hope this is a mistake. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:54 PM
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22. Numbers will go up, people. He was quoting a computer model...
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:55 PM
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23. Just heard that, and I'm still shaking.
Wolf Blitzer, world's worst reporter, didn't even bother to follow up, ask him for clarification.

You know, like, "Excuse me, let's stop and back up for a moment. Did you just say that of the estimated 300,000 that stayed behind, one third have likely drowned? So, you're saying its reasonable to believe that 100,000 people have died?"

Way to follow up, Wolfie. You're in the situation room!!
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:02 PM
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31. Wolf Is A Fucking Excuse For A Human
Vapid, venal, STUPID, and just CRASS. This turd is the peak the fucking zenith of stupidity. Evolution has not caught up to Leslie.

Poor idiotic mouth puppet. What a gross tool. i hate this MF gas bag of shite.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:56 PM
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24. link?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:59 PM
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29. It was a live interview on CNN, I believe he was with the Army Corps...
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 02:59 PM by VolcanoJen
... of Engineers, a hurricane expert from one of the colleges consulting with the Army Corps. Interviewed by Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room."

I saw it, too, and heard the same thing Proud2Be did.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:01 PM
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30. I heard the interview
and wrote down his estimate.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:08 PM
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40. Just so much sorrow...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:56 PM
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25. hmm they are not going to try to hide bodies
sorry, my experience coming to the fore... the number is adecuate for initial effort, but I'd place the deaths at quite higher than that when all is said and done... oh and remember those numbers for I can bet they will try the old game
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:56 PM
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26. Holy cow...Maybe not...going to wait and see before I get
tooooo depressed.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:05 PM
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34. We have a saying in Information Technology,
"Garbage in, garbage out".
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:05 PM
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35. From WWLTV.Com:
1:20 P.M. - (AP) Mayor Ray Nagin says at least hundreds of people are dead -- maybe thousands -- in New Orleans. "We know there is a significant number of dead bodies in the water," and others dead in attics, Mayor Ray Nagin said. Asked how many, he said: "Minimum, hundreds. Most likely, thousands."

http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWLBLOG.ac3fcea.html
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:05 PM
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36. Tragic, but I've got to get on with my life. Now, watch this drive.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:06 PM
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37. They know the Chimp is going to get the fallout for this,
so they are inflating the potential deaths, so when it winds up being only a thousand or so people will say, "that's not so bad, could have been worse".
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Francine Frensky Donating Member (870 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:09 PM
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41. Homeland security is running this thing; dontcha feel safe??
scary how poorly the whole thing is being run.

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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:09 PM
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42. I don't think so,
this guy from LSU is not political. He is just scientist doing his job.
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SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:32 PM
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Time will tell
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:15 PM
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47. No they are not inflating anything
from doing disaster work I know they are not... what they are doing is NOT allowing for the death toll to be hidden.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:07 PM
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39. I wish I was surprised, I was encouraged by the scenes of the evac
but this sort of thing has been well predicted for quite some time. We used to talk about this in my geology classes--just the potpourri of calamities looming over Southern Louisiana.

This is devastating. Apocalyptic isn't really an overstatement in this case.

I'm a deist--bordering on atheism, but God help those people. It doesn't seem that the offical response is up to it. :cry:
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Tyranny_R_US Donating Member (988 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:10 PM
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43. God I hate CNN while FOX and MSNBC has been focusing on the victims...
CNN is still bitching about looting.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:13 PM
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45. Should I turn on Fox?
I've seriously been glued to CNN, and the armchair moralizing of Jack Cafferty, Kyra Phillips and Rush Limbaugh's girlfriend is more than I can bear.

Things are better on Fox and MSNBC? I'll change the channel.
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Tyranny_R_US Donating Member (988 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:21 PM
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48. You should have been watching fox for the past hour...
Shep Smith reporting was excelent I believe he's the only one who has showed the true suffering.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:26 PM
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49. I'm very sorry to have missed it.
I'm not a fan of Shep's, but it sounds like he got his shit together for this story.

Jeanne Meserve on CNN has been excellent, as well. They just finished a devastating interview with her, but sadly I had to sit through hours of moralizing and videos of looters first.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:32 PM
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50. It sounds like Shep Smith
is very rapidly becoming part of the story he is covering.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:14 PM
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46. I don't know about 100,000, but I've thought from the start . . .
that the loss of life would end up being in the thousands, if not the tens of thousands . . . just didn't want to be the first to say it . . .
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:33 PM
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51. I refuse to believe this.
:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:40 PM
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53. Wow - I thought it would climb really high but I never thought
100,000.

I hope he/she is wrong but I fear he/she is right.

:cry:
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:44 PM
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55. Finding that hard to believe...
A *third* of the people exposed to the hurricane drowned? Why a third? Sounds arbitrary to me. God I hope it's not true.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:52 PM
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56. It is probably a rounded number
I would imagine it comes from the percentage of the area of the city which is flooded coupled with the density of those areas.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:56 PM
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57. Fuckface has spent almost half a trillion dollars on a war
that he says is due to September 11th.

By my count, that means he won't have any problem spending a few trillion dollars to bring New Orleans back.

Oh wait, he already cut their paltry budget several years in a row.

It is not remotely possible to begin to describe in any human language the depths of DISGUST I feel toward this man and his entire administration.

Someone please tell me that karma is real, and that it's coming for him one of these days.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:57 PM
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58. Oh...I hope that's not true.
I have heard rumors thought that they are not releasing numbers yet because they fear mass hysteria, increased rage & violence.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 06:11 PM
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59. 100,000 ????????????!!!!!!! dead? OMG!
:cry:
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 06:11 PM
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60. I really hope and pray this is not true. nt
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 06:13 PM
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61. What? Jesus Christ. I hope that's not true.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 06:14 PM
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62. Oh my god.
Dear god, please don't let that be true.

:cry:
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