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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:16 PM
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AIRLIFT IN WATER - FOOD - MEDS & EVERGLADE-BOATS - OR CALL IT GENOCIDE
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 12:20 PM by scottxyz

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Airdrop in clean water, food and meds RIGHT NOW. And some Everglade-type boats (with air-propellers) for search & rescue and recovery. This should have started TUESDAY MORNING after the winds died down and the levees broke. (The levees should have been sandbagged but that's a whole nother fuckup - which turned this hurricane into a flood.) But in the meantime...

AIRLIFT IN WATER - FOOD - MEDS



People on rooftops and overpasses are dying of thirst and hunger live on national TV while the government sits on its hands.

There ARE points of high ground / buildings in NOLA and the main need there is CLEAN WATER. Survivors are now on whatever high ground they can find but now they need water, food and meds until they can get to shelter. They're going to die of THIRST because nobody in this rich First World country has airdropped in a few pallets of bottled water. We have to wait for COSTCO to do it because FEMA can't get its head out of its ass. Drop it in on some of the overpasses and larger roofs where people are congregating and it'll get distributed. People in a disaster act selfish ONLY when they think there's no hope - but if people know there's a steady stream of bottled water being air-dropped down to them, they'll triage and prioritize just as well as the best ER staff, in order to save the maximum number of their fellow beings.

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Meanwhile, people who dare loot some soda and bread from a store are being told they might get SHOT if they dare feed themselves. Mayor Nagin should take his town back ("local control" - Repubs can't argue with that!) and take charge of his own police and tell them to leave the looters alone - at a stretch it could be argued that looters are actually performing a valuable function because they're "liberating" food and supplies from local depots more efficiently than Michael Chertoff and FEMA will ever be able to. If a guy steals a pair of sneakers from Foot Locker and avoids getting gangrene on his foot, that's a net savings and I'm sure our brilliant accountants can route a check to the shop owner who lost a pair of shoes rather than to the doctor who performs the amputation (and the patient who goes on SSI for the rest of their life).

We should be PAYING the "looters" for the lives they're saving. And pay the shop owners for their merchandise rather than paying cops to shoot on sight (and paying for all the lawsuits that will come after that).

Like the American idiots we are, we follow the labels applied by some idiot on TV, and we're stuck with it forever. (A bus full of evacuees driven by a 20-year-old kid showed up "early" at Houston's Astrodome and they got turned away. CNN is callling this the "renegade bus" and everyone's parroting this term. Can't have people showing up at the wrong time or without all their papers in order after the BIGGEST NATURAL DISASTER IN US HISTORY.)

The overtime pay we're paying cops to go around shooting looters in the head could be used instead to indemnify / reimburse the shop owners whose merchandise gets looted. (I suspect many shop owners are planning on writing everything off and collecting the insurance anyways.) But nooooooo, that's too complicated an idea to get our minds around. Christ, the Supreme Court just approved "eminent domain" last months for private assets which could be better used by another private party - but I guess this concept can only be applied to dueling real estate moguls - not to people who dare to open "somebody else's" unused can of drinking water or soda after the BIGGEST NATURAL DISASTER IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

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Rather than airdrop this in to the people from a few C130s, the former estate lawyer heading the FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY holds a press conference talking bureaucratese about an "Incident of National Significance" and "assets" and "taskforces" - but doing NOTHING to help people! This guy Chertoff (Christians take note - his last name means "Devils") couldn't be an elementary school crossing guard - he's an incompetent wimp who belongs back behind a desk drawing up people's wills.

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Now I hear FEMA is dropping out because the situtation is "TOO DANGEROUS". WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!? We're talking STANDING WATER with a few snakes and chemicals in it -- bad to drink but they could be skimming over it with boats sending in supplies and taking away people. STANDING WATER is too dangerous for fucking FEMA?!?!?

(Now I hear that people are desperate and violent and FEMA's afraid to go rescue them for that reason. Well, maybe FEMA has a point there - if you show up three days late to rescue me and half my family DIED because you were too stupid to airdrop in a bottle of water for me then I'd be pissed too. So run with your tail between your legs FEMA - people have discovered that you're murderers, not helpers.)

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They've known about the risk to the levees for years. They should have been sandbagging those levees on Sunday night when the whole country was glued to their "tubes" worrying about the "destruction of New Orleans". Someone at FEMA (who probably got demoted) predicted in early 2001 that the three most likely disasters in the US would be:

(1) Terrorist attack on NY
(2) NOLA hit by a hurricane
(3) SF hit by earthquake

They're batting 2 for 3 with their own predictions but they can't be bothered to MAKE ANY PREPARATIONS.

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The levees, like every other fuckup in this MAN-MADE DISASTER, are under FEDERAL jurisdiction (US Army Corps of Engineers). I had tears in my eyes seeing the mild-mannered, black mayor Nagin of NOLA talking about how (1) he wanted the levees fixed months ago but the money got cut and (2) he wanted them fixed just before they "blew" on Monday but SOMEBODY REDIRECTED THE HELICOPTERS CARRYING THE 3,000 SANDBAGS.

There's a lot of expensive-looking houses near Lake Pontchartain where that levee broke. If the Federal government could have been honest and admitted they didn't give a FUCK about the people in those houses, then I bet the people in that neighborhood could have paid for some SANDBAGS to be airdropped from a helicopter when a storm comes. It's time for the Federal government to "shit or get off the pot" - if you're in charge of the levee, then sandbag it. If you're not going to sandbag it, tell us and give up jurisdiction so WE can do it. The way things are, it's ILLEGAL for private citizens to fix things that are under the jurisdiction of DC - but when it comes time for DC to DO something, they can't or they won't. This fucked-up "separation of powers" is what's killing thousands of people in NOLA.

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People need to wake up and understand that for White House insiders this is a big chance to save some more money short-term and kill off some poor Dem-voting black people (and white people with funny accents). For the oil barons, this is another chance to "gouge" for a few weeks. And for the media, this is a run around with perfect hair reporting on "human interest" stories (which are always great for ratings). Talk to some distraught white people, and film some black people acting wild - that's the mainstay of American media.

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The media, the oil barons and DC run the country now - and the last thing any of them care about is "saving lives". It's The People against DC & the Media & Big Oil now. That's the sad reality which a small minority of bloggers have woken up to - and many black people have resignedly lived with for their entire lives.

OR CALL THIS WHAT IT IS - GENOCIDE



Black people on overpasses and roofs in NOLA are dying of thirst on live TV now -- as media helicopters circle around filming them and former estate lawyers hold press conferences and Scotty McClellan continues to deflect questions... and millions of Americans watch in horror. My roommate just ran into the room in tears. He can't believe this is happening.

Sorry folks, this is no different than when they sent the Jews to the ovens - just this time they THINK they can blame Mother Nature. But the rain and the wind stopped three days ago - and the ONLY reason those people on high ground in NOLA are dying is because OUR SO-CALLED GOVERNMENT IS RACIST AND CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO AIR-DROP IN WATER TO A BUNCH OF POOR BLACK PEOPLE. Trust me, if there were some rich white lawyers (like Chertoff) on those overpasses, we'd be having a whole different media circus: we'd be air-dropping down food and groceries and blonde bimbo anchorwomen would descend from the helicopters to interview the survivors. But it's BLACK PEOPLE on those overpasses and ROOFS and most of the people with the MONEY and the MEDIA and the POWER JUST DON'T CARE ABOUT SAVING BLACK PEOPLE'S LIVES. That freeper thread talking about "plush carpeting and Cadillacs and procreating" (and the recent resurge of interest in The Bell Curve with its paranoia about black guys with big dicks and black women with big tits) is just the Repub subconscious seeping out.

This is a sick country. The media says black people "loot" and white people "find". DC sits on its hands instead of airdropping and airboating in in supplies. They keep saying this is the "biggest natural disaster in US history" but and they keep SAYING their priority is on saving lives and they're "doing everything in their power" but they're NOT. They ignored the warnings - and now they're ignoring their own countrypeople crying from the rooftops, dying of thirst and hunger on the rooftops... while thousands of planes sit on the tarmacs and millions of bottles of Evian water sit on the shelves and the President eats cake in the richest country the world has ever known.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:17 PM
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1. This is outrageous
Fucking help those people.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:17 PM
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2. Ugh! Little chance of rain in NO after today
http://www.weather.com/activities/homeandgarden/home/weather/tenday.html?locid=70119&from=36hr_fcst10DayLink_home

The zip codes in the area are 7011# if that link doesn't work.

I certainly don't mean this as a sick joke. If it were to rain at least some water would be available. They could use buckets, shoes, their hands SOMETHING.

This is sad and amazingly sad to watch and I am just reading about it.

Pray hope dance whatever you can for rain.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:26 PM
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3. great post. recommended. nt
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:29 PM
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4. As some one who stands to...
be effected by disaster # 3 I am shaking in my boots to think this is how the federal government will respond should The Big One hit my city.

What is happening in New Orleans is obscene.

Food and water for New Orleans NOW!!!!!

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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:32 PM
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5. exactly, no excuses
i am amazed at the lack of response to this tragedy. it makes me sick
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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:38 PM
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6. I am beside myself
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 01:04 PM by justabob
I cannot believe that the same country that somehow managed to keep a city the size of Berlin supplied by air for a month or however long the Airlift went on after WWII while staring down the entire Red Army cant drop some fucking water and food to those people who are suffering so horribly in a friendly city in our own fucking country. I realize this is not the same situation as Berlin all those years ago, but if we could handle that, SURELY we can manage to help the suffering of New Orleans, Louisianna, USA.

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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:39 PM
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7. They can't do that
after all it may just save lives and that is not on their agenda...
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:47 PM
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8. I feel sick to my stomach....1000's, maybe 10's of thousands are dying &
the next 24-72 hours are the most critical to save those lives and they are more concerned about looters? The so-called "leader" of the free world isn't even going there until tommorrow, almost 5 days after the disaster and he's flying over it in his helicoptor?

This is genocide folks....pay close attention...its lots of black poor people and they don't care....And next time they tell you that we are at risk of a terrorist attack and that because of them your safer....don't believe it...if they can't even get rescue operations into New Orleans, how could they get FEMA and Rescue operations into say New York or San Francisco if a nuclear bomb or chemical weapon was used?

I am so sick I can barely type.... :puke: :grr: :puke: :grr:
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:11 PM
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9. God, this is all so sickening. You definitely summed it up
really well. This situation is too horrifying.
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:26 PM
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10. kick!
AIRLIFT IN WATER AND FOOD AND MEDS.

People are safe on rooftops and overpasses and there is minimal civil unrest given the circumstances.

Any disaster-manager knows that the first thing needed now is water, food and medical supplies - but Chertoff would rather blame the victims for staying behind - even though Greyhound was closed and many people had no transportation.

We have 80,000 people sitting on rooftops and overpasses who need WATER and FOOD - and a Federal government that would rather let them DIE than help them with our tax dollars.

Katrina is turning into the Massacre of New Orleans. Call your Senators and Congresspeople - call anyone who might know SOMEONE who has access to a helicopter and AIRLIFT IN SOME FOOD AND WATER because BushCo sure ain't gonna do it. People are not dying from the hurricane - they're dying from thirst and starvation now and BushCo won't help.



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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:15 PM
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11. Good post. Thanks.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:24 PM
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12. Thanks. Recommended n/t
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:34 PM
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13. Nominated
Great post. I feel sure that one day the mask of deceit and secrecy that surrounds our government will fall, and if they want to let these people die, then let it fall today! Bush and his cronies better save those people or that's it - final straw - there will be hell to pay! :mad:
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:48 PM
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14. Water from Idaho is on its way
Idaho is responding

The Idaho National Guard is making its aircraft and crews available for relief efforts for victims of the Louisiana and Mississippi floods.

The Guard transported a Utah military police unit to Louisiana this morning, and will carry water donated by Trinity Springs of Paradise, Idaho, to Louisiana and Mississippi, Gov. Dirk Kempthorne said today.

At least 24,000 1.5-liter bottles of water are going to Louisiana, and another 20,000 to Biloxi.

The Idaho Guard plane also is being made available to transport flood victims from New Orleans to Texas, Kempthorne said.

Additional water is being offered by other Idaho companies, and Kempthorne said he has offered additional aircraft as well as Idaho military police officers, communications experts and other personnel if needed in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

Boise-based Washington Group International has donated $500,000 to the American Red Cross for relief efforts, CEO Steve Hanks said, and will match any other donations made by its employees.

Vaughn Killeen, head of Idaho's Red Cross, challenged other Idaho companies to follow WGI's lead. And Kempthorne encourage Idaho citizens to help with the relief effort by donating to the charity of their choice.
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:01 PM
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15. This is bringing tears to my eyes
I am so glad someone is FINALLY sending in some water for the survivors or the rooftops and overpasses and in the Superdome.

It is totally CRIMINAL that the Federal govt in DC refused to give these people clean water for three whole days after the storm subsided. Yes the streets are flooded but America has zillions of aircraft and there was no excuse not to start airdropping water and sandwiches Tuesday morning after the winds died down.

Thank God Idaho at least is going to airdrop water to these poor people.

It is sad and sickening that this had to come from DONATIONS and another state after survivors had sat on rooftops begging for help for 3 days -- but I guess it took a while for it to sink in that Bush and Chertoff were actually going to let these people die rather than spend a few hundred thousand dollars on water.

Let's also make sure we start airdropping in some sandwiches, and basic medical supplies (bandages, aspirins, topical and systemic antibiotics so people with cuts won't get infected in the dirty water).

It is so sad (and probably criminal) that our Federal govt has sat on its hands for 3 days refusing to do this. Thank God the Idaho National Guard is stepping into the breach.






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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:14 PM
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17. I don't think this will be an 'airdrop' per se,
They will be sending the water and other supplies by large C-131 cargo transport planes, and I would guess that the supplies will be distributed on the ground to the NO convention center and elsewhere. I would agree, however, that delivering water and food directly to those stranded on rooftops must be done within the next day or two at the very latest. This would probably best be accomplished with helicopters (if they are cleared to resume flying by FEMA/Homeland Security).
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:31 PM
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18. Hopefully FEMA/Homeland Security will "clear" the food-and-water airdrop
nt
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:11 PM
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16. How many days can you last without water? How many for an infant?
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:17 PM
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19. Does it work to
:kick: on Greatest posts?
You said it so well scott.
Thanks.
V
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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:50 AM
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20. Nominated - A thousand times, nominated !!!
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 12:53 AM by Psyop Samurai
This is what I was screaming all night at work. I said we've reached a critical turning point - the genocide has come home. And with millions of ordinary Americans as witnesses (I believe nearly everyone in the South, and many beyond, have some kind of personal connection to New Orleans), the "handlers" in New York & Washington won't be able to lock down the reality.

Hooray for Idaho! Maybe we should start contacting our Governors. Yes - if the Feds aren't going to respond, give up jurisdiction so somebody else can!! Best thing I've read all night!
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