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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:58 PM
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don't give to red cross - they have not done anything but
collect millions of dollars - they have delivered nothing to these people - remember 911 - they were going to spend the money on computers

Fema is blocking help too
it is like they are trying to make this worse
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Tyranny_R_US Donating Member (988 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:01 AM
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1. Hey don't say such a thing
The rotting black corpses laying around because to a lack of aid will appreciate your blood and donations!
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:02 AM
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2. here is another link saying the same thing - red cross is loser
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:03 AM
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3. Thats bullshit
They have over 200 shelters open and are feeding and clothing these people.
What the fuck do you call that?
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:10 AM
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7. there are 25,000 or more people in dome and convention
center without water or food

there are people on highways and in apartment buildings without food or water

where are the boats, water, food - where are the air drops? This is not doing anything

They are miles away feeding volunteers
They are not helping those who need it the most
they people are dying after being rescued
they are dying in the dome and convention center

yes they have done a little - but they should be there now

people are in hospitals and hotels without food or water

Fema is taking busses and cars from others who have them and preventing them from escaping - they are blocking people
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friesianrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:14 AM
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8. Exactly...doing a "little" but not enough, I'm sorry.
200 shelters isn't going to cut it.

I'm disgusted that with the Red Cross, Salvation Army, and FEMA down there, there is ANYONE without what they need. It's sick and deplorable - I am so beyond words with this entire situation.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:14 AM
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10. There are Red Cross shelters set up all over Texas
These people should have been evacuated BY THE GOVERNMENT 2-3 days ago and put in these shelters that were set up. The Red Cross long ago determined that there wasn't any safe shelter in New Orleans, therefore they will NOT open one. They don't want people running on the assumption that shelter=safety. There was a reason that the city called the Superdome "shelter of last resort".
The government fucked up so you blame an agency that is doing good things.
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:14 AM
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9. CNN reported this afternoon that three alleged Red Cross shelters...
in Mississippi don't exist. Red Cross has a very bad reputation for collecting money under "disaster" pretexts then diverting it to other purposes: executive pay increases, more advertising, etc. If I were going to give money -- unfortunately I can't (because I live literally hand-to-mouth on a mostly fixed income) -- I'd give it through the Teamsters disaster relief fund or maybe United Way.





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tedzbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:03 AM
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4. I agree so far.
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 12:11 AM by tedzbear
They have only set up shop in locations over a hundred miles away where they help the people who were lucky enough to get out in cars.

I am waiting to see who appears to be the most visible in the trenches before I give anybody my hard earned money.

I gave $ to the Red Crescent for the Iran earthquake and to the International Red Cross for the tsunami.

But the American Red Cross is a totally different animal (think Elizabeth Dole) than the International Red Cross. Right now it appears the American chapter doesn't like to get its hands too dirty.


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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:10 AM
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6. Salvation Army is always in the *middle* of things
and with virtually no overhead---some don't like their stands on issues and I'm one but look at any of them on those charity lists and you need to go with the Unitarians to really get away from religious beliefs tht are troublesome.

I wont' give to the RC because time after time they spend more time collecting and upgrading their facilities than aiding the worst off---right now I hear they are about 50 miles up the road from N.O. Not quite the level of need I'm trying to alleviate. I know this from a relief worker on the scene.

You are welcome to send your money where you like, I'm sending mine where it will get to the worst of conditions in N.O. and Gulfport.
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blossomstar Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:07 AM
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5. I believe you...
As having been flooded in Hurrican Isabel, I can tell you that the ONLY people that helped us was the Salvation Army! The Red Cross came 5 days later and threw mops out in front of my house from a truck! That's it. The Salvation Army came the very next day and made hot meals and coffee for all of us in the community. They were our life support! Without that food and coffee we wouldn't have had the energy to start putting our lives back together! If I have money to spare or time, I donate to the SALVATION ARMY!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:17 AM
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11. Prove it!!!
That's a ridiculous assertion! Have you considered it's the leadership in coordinating the efforts?

If you're putting the charge out, prove it.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:17 AM
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12. The red cross used to show up in Vietnam. They charged
you for candy and donuts. Fuck the red cross.
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:22 AM
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13. omg really?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:22 AM
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14. absolutely
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:23 AM
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15. thanks for the info n/t
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NiteOwll Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:29 AM
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16. I'll never give to the Red Cross again
It's always their way or the highway.
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