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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:43 AM
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'LOCKED AND LOADED'
cnn.com headline this morning

"She said Thursday night that 300 soldiers from the Arkansas National Guard had arrived -- "fresh back from Iraq."

"These are some of the 40,000 extra troops that I have demanded," Blanco said. "They have M-16s, and they're locked and loaded ... I have one message for these hoodlums: These troops know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do so if necessary, and I expect they will."


Can anyone say 'shock and awe'?
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:45 AM
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1. 5 days, and NOLA gets 300 troops, locked and loaded. Wow!
I guess those that haven't starved to death will be shot.

/off sarcasm
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:47 AM
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4. This needs to be sent to the U.N. for human rights violations. n/t
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:46 AM
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2. why can't send in food and water?
That's all they're asking for while they wait to depart N.O. And they wonder why the situation is turning violent. This is a very violent country.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:47 AM
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3. This "Dodge City" mentality - Police State
disgusts me. It did NOT have to be this way IF ONLY they would have responded immediately after the hurricane to move the troops and supplies into the City of New Orleans.

This disaster was completely PREVENTABLE. No way should their ineptness and callous attitude be "swept under the carpet." It's beyond time to hold them accountable.

As Cheney loves to say, "BIG TIME Accountable!"
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:43 AM
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5. Well, I guess Neil Young better get writing.
How many years is it now since he wrote "Ohio"?

Time for another massacre by a National Guard group.

Tesha
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:47 AM
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6. Well, what are they supposed to do?
Let everyone die because of the maurauders? These people are shooting the rescuers and attacking the population. Take them out, and save the people of New Orleans.
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Biased Liberal Media Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:49 AM
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7. What I think is a problem here is
the fact that National Guard is a higher priority than getting clean water & food to the starving masses.

Now THAT is fucked up.
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mixedview Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:49 AM
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16. don't you get it - BOTH are the priority- can't have one without the othe
The rapists/thugs will simply steal the food if there if order is not restored.

the supply/rescue lines must be secured AND supplies/food dropped.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:55 AM
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9. OH, I agree: the situation is out of control now.
What they *WERE SUPPOSED TO DO* was control the situation from
the get-go.

And we can debate how far back "the get-go" was. For example, an
*IMMEDIATE*, large-scale response with food and water would have
prevented "looting to eat". Earlier, an immediate, large-scale
response to evacuate the stranded citizens would have prevented
the need to provide emergency food and water. Earlier, the *SIMPLE
PROVISION OF TRANSPORTATION* would have gotten everyone safely
out of the city before the hurricane struck. Earlier, a few millions
spent shoring up the levies would have saved tens of billions of
dollars in storm losses.

But I agree: *NOW* we're fucked, and the Guard *WILL* kill people.

Tesha
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mixedview Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:41 AM
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15. some people just don't get human nature, especially male human nature
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 07:44 AM by mixedview
unless there is a show of force to restore order/authority, the few bullies/thugs won't stop their bullshit - they are fucking up this entire situation and need to be put down if neccessary.

This is why I can't be a pacifist - sometimes non-violence is immoral - especially when it comes to self defense.

Shock and awe will most likely get the situation under control. Shoot to kill if neccessary.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:49 AM
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8. There won't be any one left to shoot tney will die of dehydration
or illness when they drink the brackish water around them.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:58 AM
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10. Can you say, Canabalization of existing supplies?
That is exactly what these troops have been doing in Iraq. Bush doesn't help them either. So they can tell who's doing what. I trust them.

You guys really need to get a grip. Bush ass is in the fire. If you keep this up. You will pull his ass out of the fire and put your own in it. I despise Bush's every breath. But frankly your even starting to piss me off. Give them their fair chance to Fuck Up. Yeah I know AGAIN! THEN bash at will.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:14 AM
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11. The troops know how to protect themselves so looters and snipers
better run for cover.

After a tour in Iraq, the troops are not in any mood to die defending NO.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:21 AM
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13. Nor are they "fresh"
Those poor kids... :cry:
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Clintmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:18 AM
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12. Amazing.
This indicates they will shoot to kill should they encounter any "marauders". This IS America, you know. They need to be taken into custody and given a trial per the constitution as it has been since the founders started this country! This is bad.
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MarkTwain Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:37 AM
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14. Good for her....
.... there is absolutely no excuse for those murderers firing upon Coast Guard helicopters attempting to rescue people.

Further, there is absolutely no excuse for those thieves who steal televisions, jewelery, and all the other items we have seen carried and floated away that are non-essential to the support of life - no matter how much false, contrived, and phony "logic" and misplaced sympathy we see on this board which impotently attempts to explain away these acts of predation.

Without equivocation, the rule of law must be established before any meaningful, consistent, and true help and support can be given to this tragic situation and to the people who suffer it.

These looters and those who attempted murder upon the pilots of the choppers are but a scant three or four decimals places to the right in terms of the percentage of the souls who are suffering this overwhelming fuck up by the federal and state governments. The vast majority do not need their ilk making a horrendous situation even worse by their criminal acts.

Ready. Aim. Fire. It's the first strong statement of governance which I have yet to see from these fuck-ups "managing" this tragedy.


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melv Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:24 AM
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17. right. Not.
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 09:24 AM by melv
Ready, Aim, Fire. Boy, that has really been a big help in Iraq, now hasn't it?

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