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Fri Sep-02-05 07:16 AM
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Is Mary Landrieu done kissing *'s ass yet? |
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I thought I was going to puke yesterday listening to her thanking Bush for his "concern" over and over again. Suddenly, last night, after one particular rant by a CNN reporter (I forget who) about how he was pissed off about all the pols kissing each other for what a 'good job' they were doing she started telling the truth, that so far the govt has done a totally inadequate job of getting into Nola.
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:17 AM
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Clip is at Crooks and Liars.
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:20 AM
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3. Thanks, was so upset I forgot it was Cooper |
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I just hope they keep it up. It's unbelievable that the media has to beat the shit out of FEMA and Homeland to get anything done.
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:47 AM
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12. He kicked her butt too |
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Has the Corporate News Networkk finally getting some cajones?
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:19 AM
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2. That was Anderson Cooper - video at C&L |
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http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/01.html#a4740Anderson really gave it to her, but it didn't seem to phase her one bit. Said there'll be time to talk about "all that" later.
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:33 AM
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4. A politician being a politician..... |
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even in the most desperate of times. I'm more than a little sick of Landrieu's fawning over bush. When (if) this is all over bush will be handing out more medals and the pols will be sucking each other off over how great they were in the face of disaster, even though their INACTION led to the loss of countless lives. It will be all white-washed and sugar coated, as it always is. :eyes: Disgusting.
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:36 AM
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She is obviously in deep distress, that is clear from her demeanor in her interviews. She has family and friends in trouble. Her brother is running boats in trying to save people. And all we care about is that she wasn't mean enough to President Bush. SHe came on the air to try and calm her constituents the best she could. Badmouthing the very people she needs to rely on to save them would have been a horrible thing to do.
Leave her alone and let her do her job!!! For pity's sake if nothing else!
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:38 AM
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6. Her job is to scream "Get the water and food in there" |
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not to give Bush a handjob
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:43 AM
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7. Wow...real sensitive... |
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Sittin comfy at your computer you haven't got a clue what she is doing!!! Her job is not to satisfy you that she is doing her job, it is to actually do her job. Despite what you may think of her politics, Mary Landrieu is a wonderful person doing her best in a time of extreme crisis!
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:46 AM
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11. I'm sure she is a real sweetheart |
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How is she "doing her job" by stroking idiots like Michael Brown of FEMA who doesn't have a fucking clue what to do? The only one "doing his job", in my opinion, is the Mayor of NO.
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:48 AM
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13. Jeez...how old are you...? |
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:50 AM
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14. Is it juvenile to demand the truth from our politicians? |
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Up until Cooper exposed her and all the other pols who were busy slapping each other on the back for doing a great job she was up there before the microphones telling everyone that everything possible was being done, which was a lie.
I tell my kids not to lie and expect my politicians to do the same no matter what party they represent.
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:54 AM
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19. No I tell you what is juvenile... |
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Expecting a person in distress, whose job it is to aid and comfort her constituents, to satisfy you that she is being partisan enough. And especially to demand that in such crude terms. Leave her alone until the crisis is stabilized. I can tell you Mary Landrieu has no more motive than that, and if she has to submerge her true feelings about the Bush administration it will be well worth it. And afterwards, she will not hesitate to criticize those that need to be criticized.
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:57 AM
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21. Partisan? Is demanding those people be fed partisan? |
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My comments have nothing to do with politics. Yes, I was "crude" and I am sorry it offended you, but it seems crude is the only thing that is getting the attention of those who are (supposedly) in charge.
I'm sure she cares a great deal, but she was not getting the job done by praising anyone not doing their jobs. Naylin, on the other hand, is the one who is going to get people food and water by screaming at the top of his lungs for it on national TV.
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Fri Sep-02-05 08:04 AM
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26. Again...you have no idea what she is getting done... |
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Are you in contact with her...is she sending you updates? If you look at the post below from someone at least remotely connected to the crisis, she is doing quite a bit. It is not the time for her to rant and rave about what Bush didn;t do, but to get what aid and comfort she can to her constituents. They being her top priority, she will be all over the failures of these people when the crisis is stabilized.
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Fri Sep-02-05 10:47 PM
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Jersey Devil, there are people on this board who know Mary Landrieu a hell of a lot better than you do. Mary doesn't yell and scream, but she is tough as nails when the chips are down, and I have no doubt that she is raising hell in her own lower key way behind the scenes.
Did it ever cross your mind that Landrieu is probably angrier than anyone about this whole matter? She has been fighting for levee upgrades and wetlands mitigation for years. Her legislative efforts were scuttled by Bush, so she can hardly be called a lackey.
By the way, who is "Naylin"?
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:50 AM
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15. Jersey Devil....I normally agree with you.... |
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but, I think there is a place for Ray Nagin's anger AND Mary's "diplomacy" in the effort to get the f'ing Government's help. Plus, knowing the Landrieu family's roots in New Orleans, she is going thru hell right now as are all people that live in NO or have family there now.
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:53 AM
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18. Well, to her credit, at least now she is telling the truth |
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It took Cooper to wake her up. Perhaps she was in shock and having a personal interest may have caused her to want to see things that were not happening.
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Fri Sep-02-05 08:03 AM
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25. To GET The Gov't To Help? |
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I don't get that. It's the government's JOB to protect the people of these stricken cities, in every much the way it was their job to clean up after 9/11 and get people to safe locations with enough to survive.
The stress she's under is NOTHING compared to those who have nothing, have nowhere to go, and lost what little they had. The stress should NOT stop her from demaning more action and more quickly. In fact, it should impel her to be MORE forceful, not more diplomatic. The Professor
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Fri Sep-02-05 08:06 AM
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27. How do you know she isn't? |
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Is she in contact with you? Her job is not to keep armchair quarterbacks informed, it's her job to get results. And from the reports of some here with a connection to the area, she is doing just that
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Fri Sep-02-05 09:34 AM
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37. Same Song. Same Verse |
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You're boring me. She is indefensible. Now is not the time to schmooze the big shots for one's own political career. Sorry, but you're just flat wrong on this one. The Professor
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:00 PM
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41. You can blather the same thing all you want... |
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Exactly how well do you know Sen. Landrieu...have you ever talked to her...have you ever even seen her in person? I doubt it...and yet you, sitting fat and happy behind your computer, seem to have some insight into her motivations none of us have...how arrogant!!!
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Fri Sep-02-05 08:10 AM
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29. I will give you my personal experience to illustrate what I'm trying to.. |
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say, Prof...
Until yesterday, we did not know where my wife's family was. Her father has been running Tulane University Hospital for the last 7 days evacuating patients and trying to keep mobs from overrunning the hospital. This morning we learned he might be helping run Charity Hospital in the vaccuum that exists.
Three other friends are still missing.
We have been on the phone and on the Internet trying to do what we can. We haven't had the time to get angry....YET.
I can now tell you that this anger is starting to build. And it could get ugly when it does.
Thanks for letting me respond.
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Fri Sep-02-05 09:33 AM
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Congrats by the way. But, we shouldn't have to do ANYTHING to get the gov't to respond. It's their job! We can do our parts in any way we can (i'm spearheading a local business fund raising effort over the Labor Day weekend). But, we shouldn't have to spend any energy to get the gov't to help. That should be automatic. The Professor
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Fri Sep-02-05 09:49 AM
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40. I agree it SHOULD be... |
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but, that obviously isn't the case. We have to use all means (shame and diplomacy being two of those means) to get that help.
Thanks for the congrats!
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:44 AM
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8. I can't believe the word "handjob" |
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Why don't you come down here and help Mary on the ground? Why don't you go with her to the BR shelter every night to comfort the evacuees? Why don't you come on down and see what she has been doing 24/7? She has comforted the people in this state...they are all talking about it. If she doesn't comfort you, well, too bad.
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:46 AM
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10. This has really brought out the worst in DU... |
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The last couple days, don't you think?
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:52 AM
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17. Yeah, the place has become a real cesspool. |
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A nuthouse, too. Tragedy brings out the best in some people and the worst in others. Sad to say, DU is, on the whole, in the latter category.
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Fri Sep-02-05 08:00 AM
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Fri Sep-02-05 09:57 PM
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43. Wow-- how condescending and judgemental |
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Playing politics in public sends the wrong message-- it's sending a message that "everything is OK" and the govt is "doing a fine job"
That's a lie. Saying it in private is wrong.
Saying it on public airwaves for millions to see is exponentially more wrong and shameful and dishonorable.
This is a larger issue and folks who cannot see that and play the politics crap need to be shamed for their public actions.
Wow-- I'm being judgemental aren't I. Yup. But no more or less than those who talk of the DU being a cesspool.
Get over yourselves. And have a great evening.
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Fri Sep-02-05 10:34 PM
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44. Coming from one of DU's reigning experts on condescension and |
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judgmentalism, that's a mighty ironic post.
But if you think it's more important to give the keyboard cowboys a cheap thrill than it is to do something for the victims of this storm, then suit yourself.
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Sat Sep-03-05 10:31 AM
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46. Oooh. I'm a reigning expert? Wow. |
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And here I thought I was being ignored. Sorry, but I won't go for the bait.
I'm all for helping folks--and if one were to actually read my post one would see that.
Rather--some appear more than happy to discuss the DU-as-cesspool
Enjoy the robes, wig, and gavel.
Oh. And get over yourself. :)
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:57 AM
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20. Did you think 2 terms of this junta would bring out the best??? |
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some here say "oh lets not fight and work to save the people, lets come together"
Others are saying "lets not take it anymore, lets fight the hypocrisy and fight the ones who caused this cluster fuck". (my paraphrasing)
Our country is now a third world nation but the corporations and the uber rick have their tax cuts and under-table contracts.
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Fri Sep-02-05 08:02 AM
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Believe me, I have no more love for Bush than anyone here. It leads to an almost irrational hatred of the man (which I understand). This leads to an extreme intolerance of anyone who does not appear feel the same way. Hence the, in my opinion, over-the-top criticism of Democrats who do not seem to hate Bush enough. We need to be more mature than that, especially at a time of extreme crisis like we are seeing now. If you look at my posts you will see I haven't criticized anyone here for blastng Bush and his handling of this crisis, only those piling on fellow Democrats who are only trying to help those poor souls in Louisiana and Mississippi. For now, it is not to the benefit of anyone for Bill Clinton, or Mary Landrieu, or any other Democrat trying to provide aid and comfort, to make it a political issue...yet. That time will come, but it is not now!!!
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Fri Sep-02-05 08:27 AM
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33. Your point is positive and constructive, but what I have seen |
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is that if these issues are not addressed at the time they never are anymore. In my opinion democrats bare as much responsability in this as does the administration. Which democrats spoke out about the irragularities with our voting system, damn few. Which democrats showed outrage at the treatment of prisoners at abu graib and gitmo, damn few. Which democrats were outraged with halliburton, damn few. Which democrats fought to get reparations from enron to California for the phony energy shortage, DF.
All I want is for my vote to count and to be verifable and nobody seems to care about it. I am sick of politicians, the machine is broken, there is very little civility left in me, I have witnessed my nation deterioate to a degree unamanagable to me. Our standing in the world communtiy has dropped and we cant even save our own people for a war based on lies.
My job was taken by NAFTA. For years I foolishly bought american to support my country and countrymen to be replaced by cheap labor, my technical career is over, I have been without a job for 4 YEARS.
The cost of insurance has put my family in the poor house and nobody cares for the plight of my family or for the millions of others in my boat.
I feverishly supported Kerry and all he did was slither out of the spotlight after the election, he still had a job to do in my opinion but he was AWOL. I have been abandoned by lickissing politicians, I expected it from the GOP but the shock was the party I have syupported all my life the Democrats.
I respect your point, if I believed it would help I would follow your advice but I have been fooled and fooled again and again. I say I want the TRUTH now not later, I can deal with the truth, its the lies to my face I am getting tired of.
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Fri Sep-02-05 09:48 PM
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:51 AM
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16. She ran for the position of senator and got it, she has responsibilities |
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to her constituents. She truly looked like a freshman senator to me. Didnt look much like a leader while she lickissed the administration.
LICKiss, my term for kissing up and licking boots at the same time.
Anderson cooper did his job for once, she needs to do hers.
If she needs motivation I suggest she forgo food and fresh water, defecate outside in 95 degree heat while smelling her decomposing neighbors for several days with no clothes, shower, bed or way to communicate. She would change her lickissing tone real quick.
I used to believe I disliked republicans, I now know it's politicians I dislike.
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Fri Sep-02-05 09:37 AM
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38. Nope - I've met her, liked her, but this is unacceptable |
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People dying and she's running off a laundry list of thank yous. She should be showing her anger - now is not the time for politics. Not impressed and glad Cooper gave told her so.
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:46 AM
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There's already a buttload of Landrieu hatefests more or less identical to this one. Why start another?
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:58 AM
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22. It's not Landrieu that people are mad at, it's that she happens to be |
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latest and most visible politician spouting paltitudes and BS and not being completely honest about thier feelings. If there ever was a time for a pol to go off, this is it. The monkey and his admin have done irreparable harm to this nation by tearing to shreds any agency that protects citizens of this country. What ahs all the ass kissing accomplished to this point?
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Fri Sep-02-05 08:15 AM
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30. an ass kissing hypocrite? |
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we went through this yesterday. Anybody who was disgusted with Landrieux praising Bush and Fema was attacked as partisan.
partisan what. I dont even know how that applies to democrats on democrats.
the woman was lying through her teeth and a tuchus lechter...praising people who are resposible for the massive deaths of her constituents..
but how dare we call her on it.
bull
a prettier version of Lieberman in essence.
refuses to acknowledge the emperor is wearing no clothes
think about it
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Fri Sep-02-05 09:46 AM
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39. Interesting thing about this debate... |
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Is that the Landreau defenders ultimately almost always resort to namecalling. Yesterday I was called a "vulture", an "asshole" and labeled "insensitive" for stating my opinion on DU and/or for calling Landreu's office and stating my opinion.
The woman is a US Senator, so I am not sympathetic to claims she is "under stress".
Anyhow, she seems to have reconsidered the wisdom of praising this Coward, who can now most certainly be named the worst president in the history of this country.
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Fri Sep-02-05 08:18 AM
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31. "Mah colleague and friend across the aisle".. I fume when I hear that |
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The "friends" across the aisle would slit their throat in the cloakroom if they could get away with it:(
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Fri Sep-02-05 08:33 AM
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34. And we would slit theirs... |
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obviously. Its been that way since 1776.
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Fri Sep-02-05 08:36 AM
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35. Exactly.. the time for "games" is OVER |
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Both sides need to take the masks off, and lay out THEIR vision..warts and all, and quit playing games
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Fri Sep-02-05 08:23 AM
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32. Anderson Cooper PWNED her... |
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Oddly enough...I suspended my ban of watching CNN just in time to see that with my own two eyes. It was wonderful. I really couldn't believe what I was hearing...he even interupted her so that he could call her out on her bullshit.
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