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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:24 PM
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American Family Association: “New Orleans now is abortion free."
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 05:54 PM by iconoclastic cat
Holy fucking shit! (via Americablog)

Lead religious right group promotes theory that God wiped out NOLA on purpose

Geez, this is from the American Family Association's propaganda organ AgapePress. It's one thing when some nutjob says this, it's another when the American Family Association, one of the LARGEST and most powerful groups of the radical right, gives those nutjobs air time.

Rev. Bill Shanks, pastor of New Covenant Fellowship of New Orleans, also sees God's mercy in the aftermath of Katrina -- but in a different way. Shanks says the hurricane has wiped out much of the rampant sin common to the city.

The pastor explains that for years he has warned people that unless Christians in New Orleans took a strong stand against such things as local abortion clinics, the yearly Mardi Gras celebrations, and the annual event known as "Southern Decadence" -- an annual six-day "gay pride" event scheduled to be hosted by the city this week -- God's judgment would be felt.

“New Orleans now is abortion free. New Orleans now is Mardi Gras free. New Orleans now is free of Southern Decadence and the sodomites, the witchcraft workers, false religion -- it's free of all of those things now," Shanks says. "God simply, I believe, in His mercy purged all of that stuff out of there -- and now we're going to start over again."

The New Orleans pastor is adamant. Christians, he says, need to confront sin. "It's time for us to stand up against wickedness so that God won't have to deal with that wickedness," he says.
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UPDATE: The bastard has a site! http://www.operationsaveamerica.org/


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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:26 PM
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1. i feel so sad for these poor, hateful people
they need to read their holy books with a clearer pair of eyes.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:27 PM
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Hmmm...
Maybe G-d was purging THEM. He wanted a diverse city, where people are free.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:26 PM
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2. Man, I would love to see their headquarters just burn to the ground.
With them all in it.

Seriously, I would laugh out loud.

These horrible people are the true danger to our country.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:42 PM
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27. I'll say just their hq and affiliated churches... let the people live...
and be humiliated.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:27 PM
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3. Walt Starr: American Family Association is now BRAIN FREE n/t
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:27 PM
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4. EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW IS RIGHT HERE.
The NEXT civil war.
It's going to happen.
And it may be preceded by a race war.

And our President met with, and supports, these people.
This is THEIR message.
From the top down.

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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:48 PM
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32. Well, if there's a "race war", this white man (me) is joining with...
the African Americans, without any reservation whatsoever.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:27 PM
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5. And, of course, murder and terror are a big improvement over sodomy
AFA is going straight to Hell.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:59 PM
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43. no shit
what freaks.... :puke:
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:27 PM
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6. MERCY???
If this is their God's mercy, I'm glad that I'm a Pagan!
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dethl Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:28 PM
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Words can't express
The immense anger I have toward fundamental religious groups that advocate the killing of innocent people in the name of abortion, gays, pagans, etc.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:28 PM
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7. It's also free of ALL LIFE, you crazed, cruel, whacko fundies.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:30 PM
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8. And he only had to kill thousands of people to do it

but of course all thnose dead were really sinners who deserved it

:sarcasm:
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RageFist Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:30 PM
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9. Heh, false religion, thats redundant
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 05:31 PM by RageFist
true religion would be an oxymoron
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:00 PM
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44. no shit.
:thumbsup:
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:31 PM
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10. editor@agapepress.org

Write and tell them what you think of their "Christianity."
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:34 PM
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16. Yep. I sent it.
Dear editors,
In the post at this address:http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/9/22005b.asp , Rev. Shanks praises the death and destruction in New Orleans as an opportunity to "begin again." How can you, in good conscience, allow such patently un-Christian sentiment to befoul your Web pages?
Disgusting.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:31 PM
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11. Evil man.
This is why I simply cannot believe in a God. What God would allow creatures like Shanks to run around "in his name" and say evil shit like this! Nope, sorry just don't buy it.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:36 PM
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This dude is in violation of the 2nd Commandment (?) - Taking the Lord's
name in vain. God did NOT mean "Thou shall not say 'GOD DAMN SHE'S HOT!!!'". God meant "You shall not invoke my name to further your crazy assed God damned fucking idiot notions!"

david
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:31 PM
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12. Actually, there are PLENTY of babies dying!
Oh wait...they were already born. The AFA doesn't give a shit about them.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:32 PM
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13. No, you shitheads, NOLA will now have the highest
infant mortality rate in the world. But at least they won't be fetuses, eh?
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:33 PM
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14. what about the PEOPLE dying?
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:33 PM
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15. This is the face of pure EVIL
Make no mistake about it. These guys are the agents of evil in the most serious sense of the word.

I can't believe anyone would say things like that. I'm just stupified.

david
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RageFist Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:34 PM
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17. And one more thing...
I'm a wicked dude by Christian definition and I say BRING IT ON!!! For all of their chatter fundies sure don't make themselves openly known do they? Christian fundies are like Muslim fundies they hide only until it is convenient to make themselves known.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:36 PM
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18. They can't say "fags", since that's Fred Phelps' schtick, so "sodomities".
will have to do.

Same fucking hatefilled shit, though.

Another group of motherfuckers to wish a painful eternity in hell for.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:50 PM
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35. Did you see that f*cker Phelps had to add his two cents
to this?
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:37 PM
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19. Yeah, it might be "free of all those things" Rev. Bill Shanks but
we just spread them out among all the people.

Guess he didn't hear the story of the woman that gave birth on the side of the road only to have her baby die because there was no one there to help her.

Fuckwad stain that he is!
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:50 PM
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34. Holy fuck! Do you have link?
That is too goddamned awful. The mind recoils.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:58 PM
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41. I don't have a link
It was a story on CNN this morning. They had a whole room of pregnant women and they were telling the story of how some were in labor now and then they told the story of the woman who crawled out of the water, gave birth on the side of the street, and watched the baby die. It was heartbreaking!

Then, we have scumbags like this celebrating the destruction of the city. My head is about to explode!
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:37 PM
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20. You mean they stopped their crusade on Howard Stern...
...just for this?! SHAME ON THEM! :sarcasm:

I love it how our asshole Nazi gov't can take the time to get the FCC to put pressure on Stern's Columbus Ohio station to dump him, BUT THEY DAMN WELL CAN'T FIND A WAY TO HELP PEOPLE IN THE WAKE OF THE HURRICANE!!!

SCUMBAGS!!!!!!!!!!

Lu Cifer, VIVE LE REVOLUTION!
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:38 PM
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21. "Culture of Life"????
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 05:38 PM by Drum
also this:

"It's time for us to stand up against wickedness so that God won't have to deal with that wickedness," he says.

Is he really presuming God needs a break or cannot achieve justice without puny pious humans? Puhleeeze!
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:38 PM
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22. If I were to be walking around in a park...
where there was a public rally being held by these kinds of people, and they said this sort of shit, I don't think I'd be able to restrain myself from running up and tackling whoever said it.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:39 PM
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23. Abortion-free?
It's also the only major US city that is (or soon will be) Al Qaeda-free. What great triumphs for *.
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:39 PM
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24. These people are the perverts
They pervert all that is good and kind about all religion. They are really sick.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:40 PM
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25. The editor got a nastygram from me... "BENEATH POND SCUM" n/t
n/t
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:41 PM
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26. Their ability to pick and choose
pieces of the bible that suit them and completely ignore others is amazing.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:42 PM
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28. I hope Marie Laveau goes VooDoo on their A**
...along with Gee the W. His Karma payback load is HUGE by now.

This is rediculous. Hurricanes happen all the time. It has nothing to do with some omnipotent, vengeful "GAWD" getting his own rocks off because people had sex or gambled down there.

REDICULOUS

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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:43 PM
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29. Why. Why. WHY are these people MISSING the compassion gene?
Can we surgically implant it? This shit is NUTS! "Hey, look on the bright side--plenty of rape, murder, suffering, war, strife, famine, and plague--but you'll never have to look at another gaily decorated float!"

Jesus wept, and then reached out and bitch-slapped them all,

The Plaid Adder
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:56 PM
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40. Whoa! The Plaid Adder!
Where the hell have you been? I never see your posts around DU anymore!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:43 PM
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30. NOBODY FUCKING LIVES THERE NOW ASSHOLE
God, it makes me :puke: to think that they care more about fetus than the millions of displaced people trying to survive everyday
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:45 PM
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31. Time to charge the American Family Association with being a Hate Group.
They exposed themselves, the charge sticks.

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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:49 PM
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33. Names on the list...
Fucking subhuman scum.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:51 PM
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36. Yeah, I bet ya'll cared about those babies on t.v.
who went without for days and days, now didn't ya?! :grr:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:53 PM
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37. Psst! Hey, AFA? Fetuses are still dying in NO.
The only difference now is that they're cruelly starving to death in their mother's famished wombs. Either that, or drowning with their mothers.

Get used to it.

(Thanks to ginbarn for the concept)
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:53 PM
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38. if mayhem breaks out nationwide, this is the kind of person I will be
looking for ....
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:54 PM
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39. Oh Bill! How ya doin'? Remember me?
I was the guy who was with the clinic defenders down there in the early '90s. You know, the ones you called "baby bloodsucking vampire lesbian whores" (including my male self).

Glad you're safe, I suppose, but you were a rotten piece of filth then, and you're a rotten piece of filth now. By the way, have you given the least bit of thought to your fellow anti's? How many of them have lost everything? Have you even accounted for all of them? No? But what the hey, a few dead comrades is a small price to pay for Southern Decadence being canceled, right? :sarcasm:

Oh yes, my fondest memory of our times together was when I "flirted" with you just to get your goat. All I did was blow you one little kiss, and you went apeshit: "Ew! You probably would!" Well, here's to ya, big fella:

:loveya:
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 05:58 PM
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42. Bush said the same thing
Bush said, with his smirk, that this would result in a better than ever Gulf Coast.
Translation: Now that we can get all the poor folks out of here, we can take the land and build more mansions for the top 5%!
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:02 PM
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45. These people make me sick
If they caught in a hurricane I would let them drown. The world would be better off.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:02 PM
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46. How dare they! HOW DARE THEY! Superstitious, judgemental ASSHOLES!!!
I should expect this brand of insanity by now. But how dare these judgemental, decidedly UN-Christian nutcases further pollute the ruins of New Orleans with their own brand of raw sewage. If there is a hell, these "good folks" should be escorted directly to its inner circle, where they can spend eternity in unspeakable torment. They've certainly earned it.

Damn, I am ANGRY. :grr:
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nyhuskyfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:04 PM
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47. If God wanted to take out New Orleans...
Does he just have bad aim or what? Because he could have sent a Category 5 down NO's throat and just wiped it out altogether, but instead the direct hit went to Mississippi. New Orleans' problems are more the result of man's failure (inadequate levee construction) than an act of God.

If God wanted to send a message, he would have left no question who's fault it was.

Also, these people are scum. But that's another issue.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:05 PM
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48. That must be why it wiped out Trent Lott's place!
Trent is a sinna!
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:05 PM
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49. so dead babies OUTSIDE of the womb is ok??
assholes.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:06 PM
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50. I should have retroactively aborted that sucker when I had the chance
when he used to harass women's clinics in N.O. about ten years ago.

Of note is that the clinic I usually helped defend, Orleans clinic in Mid-City, had about 80% of its patients African American. Shanks and his merry band of scumsucking pigs would generally give a halfhearted "Don't kill your baby!" to them as they went in - and then turn their full fury, Bible verses, tonguelashings and all, on these women as they came out.

When a white woman would show up, however, the shitballs went into some kind of frenzied satanic overdrive. Then, and only then, did they make the supreme effort to keep a woman from actually getting in to the clinic. This kind of sucked because at one point I was the only defender there, owing to a rift between two branches of the local pro-choice movement, but somehow I managed.

I can't believe that the two people I know who've been in the news since this are lacquered homophobic councilwoman Jackie "The French Quarter is under attack!" Clarkson, and this lowlife fresh dog turd. Why can't I hear from the good people?!
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:07 PM
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51. What if someone hacked into their website,
and did a bit of editing?

Just asking, because I think I read somewhere in a book that that sort of thing was possible.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:09 PM
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52. No, of course it couldn't simply be because the city's BELOW SEA LEVEL
what an ass.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:13 PM
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53. The sites are extremist, fringe shit. I ignore them.
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 06:18 PM
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54. Everything that he said was evil...
was what made New Orleans great. What this guy doesnt get that his hateful attitude towards others is going to land him in the fiery pit of hell.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:27 PM
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55. KICK!
Because we cannot forget this.
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