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Fri Sep-02-05 06:02 PM
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David Brock on Jim Lehrer just said, |
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he's mad at Bush, he thinks this will be very bad for the conservatives and that having the NO people in this situation is akin to "leaving wounded on the battlefield". And he's the conservative commentator. Strong stuff.
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:06 PM
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He's right. The federal govt is abandoning our countrymen...
Hey, welcome to DU. I wish we were meeting under better circumstances... :(
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:06 PM
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david brock probably never allowed on pigmedia (see 'blinded by the right') welcome to DU whyverne!
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:09 PM
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8. I cannot stand that smug pompous butt |
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I taped the Newshour. He is such a die hard defender of Bush I am sure he'll be making excuses by Monday!
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:07 PM
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3. David BROCK? He's not conservative |
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do you mean someone else?
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:08 PM
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5. Maybe David Brooks? n/t |
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:08 PM
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Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 06:09 PM by Mabus
There's a huge difference between the two.
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:08 PM
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is who I think they mean.
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:09 PM
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10. He's a FORMER conservative |
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But quickly saw through all the lies and deceptions during the Clinton impeachment debacle and was appalled.
Ever since, he's been a champion against GOP lies and distortions.
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:16 PM
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15. No Canada, the DUer means |
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David Brooks..easy to get confused with everything that's going on.
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:07 PM
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4. Thanks for the heads up |
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I'm in the Central Time Zone and just walked away from teh beginning of it... will stay tuned to hear that. David has been a strong apologist for that bastard from day one.
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:10 PM
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11. Yeah, they have usually Shields and Brooks on Fridays |
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I hope Mark Shields was there because he is a hard core man of truth!
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:09 PM
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9. Think he means David Brooks. |
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:12 PM
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12. Do you mean David Brooks? |
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Cause at first I thought you were talking about David Brock of Media Matters who REally doesn't like bush.
But, David Brooks is big news..thank you!
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:13 PM
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13. He should have said... |
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"It *should* be bad for the Republicans, and, speaking for myself, I'm extremely troubled that the economic and government policies that I've advocated for years have largely contributed to suffering not seen in our country since our worst of times, the Great Depression, and the Civil War.
"I'm really going to have to rethink the basic foundation and principles on which I've been basing opinion for these last couple decades."
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:15 PM
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14. Brooks. Realizes this is a bursting point New Deal change scale event. |
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Brooks! Edit your thread title!
Very interesting discussion with Brooks, Oliphant, and Clarence Page. Brooks made a good point that events like this expose the reality of how the rich have been taking care of themselves at the expense of the poor and can be the bursting point that leads to changes on the scale of the New Deal. Drew the analogy of the Jonestown flood where a lake owned by robber barons including Andrew Carnegie was part of the impetus for the progressive reforms at the turn of the 19th to 20th century. Analogy of the New Orleans flood in the 20s that helped usher in the New Deal. Analogy of the 70s that people just wanted to be over which helped usher Reagan in. This is more like the 20s when Republicans were in power.
Populism will be transcendent for a while.
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Fri Sep-02-05 11:25 PM
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23. Johnstown Flood, Johnstown, PA, 1889, over 2,200 dead |
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http://www.jaha.org/FloodMuseum/history.htmlAnd I hope you're right re the Populism...things are horribly wrong in this country.
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:19 PM
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17. That was David Brooks |
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He was livid. He said this disaster would be like our seventies wake-up call - a strong call for government accountablity.
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:34 PM
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.... I think there were a lot of people, be they the man/woman on the street, a journalist, a pundit, a politician - who, because of the ongoing debacle in Iraq, were starting to have doubts about the Dim Son.
Now, there doubts have been erased completely. Whatever vestige of hope they had that we really had a capable president have been dashed for good.
I guess we'll see.
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Fri Sep-02-05 06:57 PM
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19. Just watched it Central Time Zone |
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I am shocked. Cried through almost the entire episode. I NEVER thought I would hear David Brooks criticize that horse's ass. He made Oliphant sound like the conservative for crying out loud.
Holy shit - he said that he was mad just watching footage earlier in the program.
I wanted it to go on and on. Does anyone have it on video?
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:04 PM
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20. lets get the video...this was a major talk. |
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Fri Sep-02-05 07:11 PM
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21. they agreed to bigger govt in hopes of keeping America safer |
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true conservatives find themselves in a lose/lose situation. America has undergone the largest government expansion since the New Deal, but they willingly compromised their philosophy of smaller government for the promise of a security that does not exist.
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Fri Sep-02-05 11:30 PM
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24. Since there's some confusion re Brooks v. Brock... |
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Fri Sep-02-05 11:54 PM
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25. Hmmm... you never see them together... y'don't think... naaah... |
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