Brooks ...outrageously spelling it out. on News Hour.

[dogindia]

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. *ahem*

Some of us cannot be watching. Could you regale us with a few points of what he is saying, perhaps?

Thanks.

[wli]

2. I'm holding down a day job myself. Seconded. n/t

[calico1]

3. He just said he is very angry at the Pres.

Says him looking out the window on his airplane was "terrible." Says that after 9/11 there was an immediate response. People felt good even though we had been through something terrible. He says now people feel terrible and ashamed and bush doesn't seem to understand that. And there is no leadership this time.

[smoogatz]

7. Yep. I saw it and was stunned.

David "Girly Hands" Brooks--the country's most "cerebral" Bush apologist--now pretty much hates the Chimpenfuhrer. Says Bush suffers greatly in comparison to Giuliani, post 9/11. Except for a few hard-core wingnuts like Krauthammer and Novak, even the conservative media are jumping ship faster than rats off the Titanic.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. Brooks calls this a bursting point that presages big changes

Very interesting discussion with Brooks, Oliphant, and Clarence Page. Brooks made a good point that events like this expose the reality of how the rich have been taking care of themselves at the expense of the poor and can be the bursting point that leads to changes on the scale of the New Deal. Drew the analogy of the Jonestown flood where a lake owned by robber barons including Andrew Carnegie was part of the impetus for the progressive reforms at the turn of the 19th to 20th century. Analogy of the New Orleans flood in the 20s that helped usher in the New Deal. Analogy of the 70s that people just wanted to be over which helped usher Reagan in. This is more like the 20s when Republicans were in power.

Populism will be transcendent for a while.

[understandinglife]

12. Palast just published the remarkable comparison to 1927/28 ...

... Coolidge, Huey Long, New Orleans historical events:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4571410&mesg_id=4592845

Brooks knows history.


Peace.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

15. I highly recommend reading this..Brooks sounded like Nader today

[dogindia]

4. deeply complex discussion. I wonder if a transcript will be available

Something has changed. All the commentators are speaking deeply talking.

Saying that this was a major event for the failure of government. But all the problems of race and poverty they are speaking of. That this will galvenize many political systems

When government fails...

My comment...when systems of culture fail the poorest.

I will try to find a transcipt. But is remarkable

[yowzayowzayowza]

18. Transcript & Audio:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/political_wrap/july-dec05/bop_9-2.html

On edit: Audio also available on that page. Nominate and :kick:

[eallen]

5. David Brooks sounded like a wild-eyed liberal...

The high points I remember are that this kind of disaster exposes social fault lines, that it will have long-reaching political repercussions, that it comes at the end of a long line of government scandals, and that Bush has made exactly the wrong moves, doing nothing for three days. The most hilarious line was he said of himself, that he thought "this must be how Mark Shields feels." I laughed at that.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

6. Even though I generally HATE everything Brooks has to say, if he said

these things I'd have to agree. This is such a huge and calamitous event with profound implications for our whole society, not just the Bush administration.

[rosesaylavee]

8. Brooks made Oliphant sound like a conservative.

He is mad at Bush. Said it right out. Said that this is a failure larger than Abu Ghraib, the lack of planning in Iraq, etc. He admitted that while watching earlier footage of Bush that he was mad just looking at him.

Those of you who haven't watched this crapper for the last several years apologize and explain every damn stupid thing Bush has done or said maybe can't appreciate how amazing this was.

I cried through the whole damn thing. Ever have someone lie to you for years and finally tell you the truth that you knew all along? It was kind of like that. I only hope there is more it.

Clarence Page said that Tony Blankley (sp?) of the Washington Times was just as appalled. Anyone have a link?

[PA Democrat]

9. They are ice skating in hell, for sure!

Amazing that he has also chosen now to admit Bush's other pitiful failings.

[rosesaylavee]

13. Right, it was as if he had thought this all along but

held back for whatever reason. I don't understand him and others like him who are now admitting this guy is a dangerous moron.

[understandinglife]

11. I never thought I would ever, ever hear Brooks say anything like this ..

... I full understand your "Ever have someone lie to you for years and finally tell you the truth that you knew all along? It was kind of like that." -- that can be one of the most moving experiences in a person's life.


Let's hope he stays on message -- it's not as if the horror, the extraordinary scale of Bush's crimes are going to dissipate any time soon.


Peace.

[rosesaylavee]

14. I just wish Mark Shields had been there...

that would have been very cathartic.

[Stephanie]

16. Did he???

I have been bashing him over the head for years for his neo-con affiliations. Did he really???

[eyepaddle]

17. Wow, could it be that the bribed are no longer remaining bribed?

I usually detest everything out of David Brooks...but if HE'S finally admitting reality, how many others are with him?

(shakes head in rueful amazement) a pity that it took this great a disaster to make him aware.