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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:24 PM
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People at my local watering hole were openly mocking Bush today
I had an urge for an afternoon beer and stopped in a restaurant/bar called Buffalo Wild Wings here in Central Florida. They had the big screens on and the volume up while Bush was speaking---- and I gotta tell you, everybody in the place was commenting on what a douche bag Bush is. I've never seen anything like it. The congressman of my small town is Repuke scumbag Tom Feeney for gawd sakes so it's pretty damn conservative around here.

White collar, blue collar, the servers, everybody was in a loud vocal way ripping Bush. It was amazing.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:26 PM
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1. The big question...
will all of this justified outrage translate into votes for Democrats in 2006?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:27 PM
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5. No per Diebold's press release today.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:53 PM
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33. I think we are witnessing a MAJOR SHIFT in the mood of the Amer electorate
.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:26 PM
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2. hub's freeper diehard exmil coworkers were DISGUSTED and vocal
and crying about their three dollar gas to boot!

The end is near.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:26 PM
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3. Were they last Nov. ?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:26 PM
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4. The contractor building my deck (who's a friend) was doing the same.
He's a Repub, but he says that Bush is completely incompetent.

If we give them somebody decent to vote for in 2008, I'll bet we can pull a lot of these people from the other side of the fence.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:28 PM
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6. someone decent
indeed. i can think of a few "front runners" that won't fit that description.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:30 PM
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9. So can I...
He also said that if the Dems ran somebody he trusted in 2004, he would have voted for them.

Not trying to start a flamewar, but it's been said before that Kerry didn't resonate with average Americans. I know at least one person who felt that way and it gave Bush a vote.

I really hope we pick somebody with more appeal to middle America next time.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:34 PM
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12. No flames here
Kerry didn't connect with voters the way he needed to. I wanted him to win so badly I overlooked his shortcomings. Of course, he still was a zillion times better than Bush.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:44 PM
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21. The irony
is that Bush comes from exactly the same blue-blood East Coast Ivy League elite Kerry does. Kerry was a much better candidate than Bush in all regards, but Bush had a fake Texas accent and good PR people (and, of course, Rove) helping him to assume a completely invented persona. They actually managed to portray Bush as "the guy you'd want to have a beer with". What's happening now, I think, is that people are realizing that they wouldn't want to have a beer with him... that he's even more of an elitist than Kerry and couldn't give a shit about ordinary people.
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ecoflame Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:54 PM
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24. Kerry & Bush
One BIG difference is that Kerry (although upper class, the upper crust monetarily) has that responsibility of service to community as, for instance, the Kennedys.

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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:02 PM
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28. I agree
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:12 AM
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43. No he probably didnt
BUT the person the voters most wanted to have a beer with is not the kind of person who can handle this sort of situation. As we have seen this week. So maybe it is high time American voters stopped deciding elections on that basis.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:36 PM
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15. with the exception of john conyers i want NO ONE who is in our govt
right now (that i can think of)

i want someone who has humanity and sense and priorities and recognition of those impoverished in this country (and have stated this before this horrific tragedy)
and cares about this earth and all the creatures in it
and equality and lifting people up

and on and on but its a start

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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:07 AM
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42. Ah, now that would be something I surely would like to see
I really didn't know John Conyers until this year and in that short time I have come to respect him more than any person in elected office. I am disappointed that I did not get to know him better long ago.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:54 AM
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47. so true - if there are any others like him just let me know
now that i think of it there are some good people in congress

zoe lofgren (i think is her name)
stephanie tubbs jones of course
henry waxman
sheila jackson lee

there are several people in congress who i could support but aside from that i cant think of too many others

wow
lets get rid of everyone while were getting rid of bush
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:48 PM
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22. No, so they voted for an elitist in a flannel shirt, fucking idiots!!
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:56 PM
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27. Yes, but they didn't follow things as closely as we did.
Hell, even I believe that Bush is great at talking to people in language they understand (yes, that's a great reason to upgrade public education in this country).

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drfresh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:59 PM
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35. Yes, I agree
Kerry resonated with a lot of Dems, but we really need someone who can appeal to a very broad section of America with no-nonsense talk, being straightforward, and most importantly, someone who will say str8 up what they believe in and not take shit from Repubs.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:01 PM
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36. Jabbar the Renegade Bus Driver for President!!!!!!!!!!
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drfresh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:06 PM
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37. Cool
I'd vote for him if I knew more about. Care to fill me in? :)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:25 PM
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39. There was another thread with his full name, a 20 yr old kid who
broke into a school in NOLA and searched through all the bus keys (there was a parking lot full of school buses just SITTING unused) until he found one for a bus he picked, and drove around NOLA picking up 100-some refugees, they all pooled their money and gassed up 3 times and he drove them to the Houston Astrodome. They were the first bus there (ther renegade bus). He had NEVER driven a bus before.

Give the boy a medal. And a free college education.
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drfresh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:37 PM
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40. Damned right...
wow, I never heard that before. Thanks for filling me in. The kid does deserve a medal.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:02 PM
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53. I think Clark and Feingold would fit the bill pretty well.
Both know how to speak their mind, and neither is very likely to pander and seem less than genuine.

I saw a debate Feingold had with his opponent last year, and it was brutal. That is clearly a guy who pulls no punches and believes in what he's saying.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:31 PM
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10. I can think of a few that do
:)
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:29 PM
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7. It's happening here in Louisiana too....well, obviously,
but, I never thought I'd see it.
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:29 PM
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8. Ditto.
It's happening at my government agency. I try, usually successfully, to keep it under wraps, but many have given up trying to do so.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:32 PM
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11. yep, I work at a store, and all day long this is all I heard.
to sum it up, it was all basically "What the fuck is wrong with Bush?"

Just about every customer was swearing, angry... and each and every one of them put money into our Red Cross donation container. This is all I am hearing all over town, whether it's while I'm standing in line at the bank or the post office, people are PISSED.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:36 PM
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16. Is your area Dem or Republican?
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:54 PM
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25. It's pretty split, just like the rest of the country.
Though I have found more and more people voicing their opinions over the past couple of months, mostly due to gas prices. It's a start. But I tell ya the past couple of days, I have never seen/heard so many people be so vocal in their disapproval.
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fiveleafclover Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:34 PM
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13. The little old ladies on the bus in the morning
have been really giving it to Bush lately. It's great to listen in on. When a Republican president falls out of favor with the little old ladies who ride buses in East Tennessee, blood red country, you know something's about to give.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:44 PM
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20. Right! I am originally from ET and know exactly what you mean.
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fiveleafclover Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:56 PM
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26. It seems the hurricane is what finally did it
asjr, if you haven't been through here this past week, you wouldn't believe how the political mood of the area has changed. Even the stubborn people are talking this week. It would be funny if it wasn't so damn strange.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:35 PM
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14. You know what is wierd to me, that people are afraid to talk.
I was a bartender during the Nixon near impeachment. Our bar would fill up for happy hour with all sorts of different kinds of people stopping after work. We would put the news on and Nixon would appear making speeches about what was going on and people openly boo'ed him. There was no love lost. Why is everyone so afraid today?
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:39 PM
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18. Because today if you talk against Bush you're with the terrorists
I'm 23 so I didn't live through the Nixon nightmare, but I imagine the difference is nowadays you're a Saddam lover and a supporter of Al Queda if you dare question George W Christ.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:57 PM
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34. You are correct...
Nixon was a small time, bumbling, petty crook. These *uckers invented a war. They have locals who report up the chain on possible troublemakers just like the old USSR.....we keep quiet in public because we will disappear.....
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:51 PM
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31. You're kidding right???
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:04 AM
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41. No I'm not kidding.
If people have become afraid to talk in a social situation, then I can understand why these people are in charge.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:46 PM
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48. We're making the same point....some of us are a bit more afraid
than others...but you know what...after what I've seen in the last five days in NOLA...I am not afraid anymore...Fuck Them...I'd rather be killed by Shrubs thugs than see fellow Americans go on suffering like this......!!!!!!...My mouth is now officially running !!!!!!!



Until they are OUT OF POWER !!!
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DawgHouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:38 PM
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17. Trumad, where is this place?
I am in cen FL and it sounds like a place I would like to visit. I know there is one on Int'l Drive and one in Oviedo.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:48 PM
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29. In Oviedo... I live on off Chapman rd and Aloma.
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:42 PM
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19. But do they understand it was the GOP congress that also allowed this?
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 07:42 PM by Pobeka
Otherwise they'll just want to replace Bush with a "better" GOP candidate, and we'll be nowhere.

That's what worries me -- they'll make a scapegoat out of lame-duck Bush instead of seeing the problem is a party that doesn't support the people.

On edit: It is good news regardless...
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Deep N RedLand Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:50 PM
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23. Look for Chimpy's polls to hit the teens.
When I see even apologists like Joe Scumborough and Bill O'Liely loudly criticizing these same Repukes they were so devoted to, you know America are finally seeing the reality of what they refused to for the last 5 years.

It's funny how those same conservatives who for the past 5 years dismissed our observations of the truth of this administration as simply musings of the "far-left, Hate Bush" crowd, yet are now being forced to acknowledge we were right.

Take every chance you get to remind the Cons that just like 9/11, the failed response to this disaster happened on the watch of their Repuke politicians they elected.

Just sad it took something like this to open their eyes.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:18 PM
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52. You're overestimating, sadly...
* could've locked everyone in the Superdome and bombed it and 30-35% of the voters would say it was the right thing to do.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:50 PM
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30. Thanks for the report trumad
:hug:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:53 PM
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32. My fav DU'er Dancing Bear and his SO drove to Cincy
to have dinner with me tonight, and we were OPENLY ripping the maladminstration in WARREN Co., no one said a word.

Is the tide turning?
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:06 PM
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38. wow I didn't know you're so close
I'm in Maitland.

wow, a DU celebrity from my neck of the woods. Can i get your autograph sometime?

:7
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:22 AM
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44. Same here. I just finshed my bartending shift, and people were
openly trashing him. And these are for,the most part, Republicans.

Working class Repubs, but Repubs none the less.

Comments like " Well, Bush went down and hugged a few people so everything will be okay"

And "I can't belive I voted for this jerk off"

And " Clinton would have been down there the next day."


and " He is as clueless as they say."
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really annoyed Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:32 AM
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45. Well, my mom has not been swayed yet!
All day long... Something to the effect of:
"Bush will get things done!"

:puke:

Good to hear your story though.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:02 PM
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50. As Your Bush Loving Mother
when she says "Bush will get things done"

How many have to die before he does?
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:29 AM
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46. I'm copying this from a chat room a few minutes ago
Long-time digital friend in Fla. Never thought I'd "hear" her say this:

Gad, i wanted to support my president, but he really is total upfuck

I think if we had a chimp in the white house, things couldnt be much worse

How the hell could gore have been worse.
How could a retarded penguin have been worse?

Terri Shaivo would have done a better job.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:01 PM
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49. Nice to know that people are waking up to it.
Lots of people who normally trust that the President knows what he's doing are starting to realize that there's really nobody home.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:05 PM
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51. ouch......lol.....but gotta luv it........n/t
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