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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:52 PM
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What the hell is going on?
I'm trying to wrap my brain around all that has happened today. The cappers for the day were Geraldo and Shepard Smith breaking down and showing their humanity on Fox news. It was powerful stuff, Crooks and Liars has the clip if you haven't seen it, and the Red Cross admitting they are being kept out of NO. During the Fox broadcast Geraldo and Shepard were literally yelling that the people weren't being allowed to leave. The Red Cross is not allowed in and the people aren't allowed out. Just what in the fuck is going on here? Is this some kind of sick Nazi experiment?

Rivera and Smith:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/

Red Cross Thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4599090
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:54 PM
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1. Hell *is* going on.
Didn't you get the memo? These be them thar End Times, and shit.

Repent! Repent!
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:57 PM
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2. It seems as much as we've yelled, screamed and even thrown
things at the TV to try and wake up the press, I do believe it will be the press that FINALLY brings Bushco down because they are there seeing everything and I really don't think they will all keep quiet about what's really going on.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:02 AM
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5. Yeah, it's about time, hopefully it's not too
late for the Gulf Coast people. I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight...
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:00 AM
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3. Is there a reason given?
The people aren't allowed to leave (and I don't understand that at all), and the Red Cross isn't allowed in. WHY?????

Has anyone given a reason, as convoluted as it would have to be?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:05 AM
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Yes, there is a reason for it
are you sitting down? The reason FEMA gave them is they don't want aid going in because it will make the people want to stay where they are. In the meantime Fox News reports that they won't let anyone out of the city. This is what I'm trying to wrap my brain around. Read the Red Cross thread. This whole thing is creeping me out..
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12345 Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:07 AM
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9. count me creeped out too. that's why i'm up at this hour...
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:02 AM
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13. It's a damned good thing I was sitting down.
I cannot believe what you just told me. I am speechless.

The reason FEMA gave them is they don't want aid going in because it will make the people want to stay where they are.

And what about the people trapped in the attics and on the rooftops? Do they also want to stay where they are?

I'm going to look for the Red Cross thread.
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:02 AM
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4. we are all asking these same questions
and no one is answering them
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:02 AM
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6. It was very Naziesque.
The ovens, (the superdome and the convention center), the starving of people by holding back on supplies, the martial law...

This was not merely a "mistake."
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VIHMH5L50P Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:19 AM
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17. THANK YOU for saying that
How else can you tell the truth except by just telling it? And don't blame me or you if it doesn't sound nice to you.

Withholding food while keeping them all caged in, while promising them all it's gonna get here real soon, has Nazi written all over it.

They (the gov't) brought crazy drugged up thugs from the outside and armed them, to start creating death and havok and give them an excuse to bring in military forces to finish as much of the job as possible.

This is a standard trick, they use it in Iraq to create fake insurgents in order to justify staying there for as long as they make a profit from it.

Who ever heard of such a ridiculous thing as starving citizens sniping rifle shots at doctors and helicopters who came in to rescue them? Well these are the outsiders I mentioned above. It's just another excuse to justify bringing in deadly force to attack defenseless starving people.

They put it all together by starting the flood themselves, by breaking the levee. The storm didn't cause the flood.

No goddammed levee breaks in less than one day.

Don't be afraid to call it what it really is, genocide. Genocide for it's own sake, and genocide to generate the terror needed to consolidate their power.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:40 AM
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22. I understand your anger, but
Levees can and do break in a day. Far less actually.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:19 AM
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18. I thought of the ghetto's the nazi's used
to keep the jews or designated hated person inside.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:05 AM
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7. Reminds me of Fallujah-remember how Red Crescent tried to
get in to help all the people (including a whole bunch of people who traveled there with food, medicine, etc) and they were denied entry. What are we, IRAQ??????????
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loro mi dicevano Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:06 AM
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8. I don't know... everything seems to be just... crumbling down and I don't
have anywhere to look, my government isn't doing anything and I don't know what the hell is going on or who to trust or ...

I'm a little scared, quite frankly.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:39 AM
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12. I'm with you there
I'm so freaked I can't sleep. I have been posting on DU all day. And it all adds up to bad news.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:07 AM
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10. The beginning of H&C is cut off...it misses the part about the relief con-
voys leaving and the "curfew." Too bad, it's really creepy and worth a second look.
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:32 AM
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11. After watching that Geraldo/ Smith Clip
It finally hit me just how fucking awful are government is. I'm in total freak out mode right now. This is the worst thing I've ever seen.
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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:06 AM
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14. I haven't been here long
but I'm seeing evidence of Thought Police here, especially today. Don't let anyone attempt to tell you what to THINK.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:17 AM
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16. Doesn't happen here much but
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 01:17 AM by walldude
you are right. I had a thread pulled yesterday because I posted that it looked like the administration was withholding aid to these people on purpose. I even preceded it by saying it was a tin foil hat theory. Today it came true. Not so TFH anymore. Hell it looks worse than what I imagined in my conspiracy laden brain.

oh and Welcome to DU :toast:
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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:25 AM
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20. Thanks for the welcome
Don't let anyone tell you what to think. Ever.
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:06 AM
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15. So Bush's visit was to devert everyones eyes while they closed off
New Orleans
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:21 AM
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19. People don't believe in Rove?
the man's favorite book is a book written by Hitler.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:37 AM
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21. BushCo didn't cause the hurricane, but they saw in it an opportunity . . .
to essentially eliminate one of the country's most vibtant (albeit poorest) urban African-American communities . . . so they decided to go for it . . . simply through intentional neglect . . .

once they fully engage, however, this will also give them an opportunity to test out how to best impose and manage martial law . . .

New Orleans will be their laboratory for some serious social re-engineering . ..
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sub.theory Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:58 AM
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23. President Nero and the Fall of the American Empire
This is the beginning of the end. The Bush Crime Syndicate has destroyed this country. Either Bush goes, or we are doomed.
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