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PatriotMom Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:37 AM
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UPDATE: NO COMMUNICATION AND THIS IS WHY
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

UPDATE: We can now report that the jamming of New Orleans' communications is emanating from a pirate radio station in the Caribbean. The noise is continuous and it is jamming frequencies, including emergency high frequency (HF) radios, in the New Orleans area. The radio frequency jammers were heard last night, stopped for a while, and are active again today. The Pentagon must locate the positions of these transmitters and order the Air Force to bomb them immediately.

However, we now have a new unconfirmed report that the culprit may be the Pentagon itself. The emitter is an IF (Intermediate Frequency) jammer that is operating south southwest of New Orleans on board a U.S. Navy ship, according to an anonymous source. The jamming is cross-spectrum and interfering with superheterodyne receiver components, including the emergency radios being used in New Orleans relief efforts. The jamming frequencies are:

72.0MHZ

45.0MHZ

10.245MHZ

10.240 Mhz

11.340 Mhz

455 IF 233 MHZ

A former DoD source says the U.S. Army uses a portable jammer, known as WORLOCK, in Iraq and this jammer may be similar to the one that is jamming the emergency frequencies.

If a U.S. Navy ship is, in fact, jamming New Orleans communications, the crew must immediately shut down the jammer and take action against the Commanding Officer..

***

We have just learned from a journalist in Mobile that yesterday, Sprint blocked all cell phone calls from the Gulf Coast region to points north and west. Calls were permitted between Alabama, Mississippi, and Florida but no calls could be made to Washington, New York, or Los Angeles

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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:38 AM
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1. you can't talk about this..
apparently.
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PatriotMom Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:40 AM
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5. WTF Not?????????
This is bull shit
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PatriotMom Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:41 AM
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8. Maybe it is BS who knows, but why the censorship I hate censorship!!!!
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:43 AM
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12. It's not really censorship
It's just an attempt to keep misinformation from becoming accepted as fact.
Wayne Madsen is not a credible source.
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PatriotMom Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:52 AM
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29. I'm not familiar with this website until tonight.....
When I read another post that has been taken down by DU and locked up by DU and I began to investigate and found this. Ok this may be bull shit info I do not know, but if the NG and the military are not in the city like I have been reading, where did they go and what the hell is going on. I am just trying to put dots together and I do not trust the Traitor Administration at all.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:10 AM
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44. There are just certain sources that have been proven to be bogus
and you can't use them as sources. That cuts down on misinformation.
Alot of people use this strictly as their news source.
I don't remember the exact thing that unveiled him as bogus, but it was something to do with the elections.
By the way, welcome to DU!:hi:
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PatriotMom Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:22 AM
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49. Thanks Horse, and Thanks to all the posters here. You inlighten me
This certainly got some attention, I think alot of people right now do not know what the hell to think about all that is going on, I know I don't. We heard tonight that the Red Cross was not being allowed into NO. I checked that out on their website and it was true. I do not trust this administration at all but I never would have believe this would happen in a time of tradgedy in the US by the Gov to this extent, and in your face. This just blows my mind. So when I read this story I wanted to get more info from people I thought would get in here and give it and they did. Thank you all
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PatriotMom Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:39 AM
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2. Can I repy to this or am I blocked?
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:40 AM
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6. I guess you can. DU is not CIA, after all.
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:43 AM
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11. tried a weather modification thread?
they go *poof*
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:55 AM
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PatriotMom Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:04 AM
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41. I'm not familiar with this Madsen website and ......
My views on Kerry stand. And I am not a Freep I don't like being lied to and I will try to investigate things and ask questions. I thougt that was what this forum is all about.
You sling names around very easily when you disagree with someone.

I do appreciate the response here and the input, I don't appreciate being called names however.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:39 AM
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3. Why the hell would they jam the EMERGENCY FREQUENCIES ...
in the middle of a disaster relief effort?!?!?!? :cry: :grr: :cry: :grr: :cry: :grr:

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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:44 AM
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17. Why do they do most of what they do? They are paranoid bullies.
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PatriotMom Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:44 AM
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19. Why the hell would they turn relief efforts away in a disater ???
This thing is way out there...
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:52 AM
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28. Just for shits and giggles.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #28
38. Ms. Cleo is angry. nt
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:16 AM
Response to Reply #38
46. Very funny but I think I better quit the scanner before I get charged
with giving aid and comfort to Katrina.

And it's CLIO. Thank you.
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:40 AM
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4. That may be bullshit
Ive been listening to over a dozen frequencies outta NOLA for the last 2 days. There are no lack of frequencies in use right now.

Maybe those are secure frequencies, or there is something special about them.. I dunno..

But I dont know if I believe that.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:41 AM
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9. I hope you're right.
Thanks for the info. :-)
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:43 AM
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15. NP, One of them is National Guard.. one is FEMA.
So Id think that if they were jamming, those would be jammed too..
then there is LAPD. CG...

I dunno. IM not a pro at this. It just doesnt seem kosher.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:45 AM
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21. Well. you may be right, depending on the kind of frequency.
A DUer, Winston, was listening to a NG channel.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:56 AM
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36. No, that IS fucking bullshit. That is the BIGGEST FUCKING PILE
OF UNHELPFUL, UNTRUTHFUL BULLSHIT I've seen so far during the aftermath of this hurricane.

Folks, leave the PILES OF SHIT off DU, please.

Thanks!
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:41 AM
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7. any Ham operators online?
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:43 AM
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10. mom...please put the link to your other post. I am going
to email this out. Is this source credible at all?

This is really fucked up.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:43 AM
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16. He's not credible.
:shrug:
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:43 AM
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13. That is a deliberate sabotage. But so far Bush is getting away with
Espionage against the CIA. This is what really Sucks. Bush is the only one that can declare Bush an enemy combatant. I don't think he's going to do that.
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SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:43 AM
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14. .
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 12:44 AM by SofaKingLiberal
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:44 AM
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18. What do these frequencies correspond to? n/t
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:45 AM
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20. Order the Air Force to bomb them immediately?
Come on people, this isn't true.
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:46 AM
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22. the transmitters n/t
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #22
24. I get that - but the release didn't even say the station KNEW
Which made my BS meter go off.

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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:48 AM
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23. the scanner feeds are not the full radio
communications that are supposed to be intact. They are having to use these feeds because their feeds are jamming.

HAM's have not been able to contact out or into this area. The pd feed has always been available online. Also, cnn reported yesterday that the comms were out because of solar flares and were making communication impossible.

Someone is jamming the frequency's I would bet on it.
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:50 AM
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25. Why arent these being effected since they are alleging cross spectrum?
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:56 AM
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35. these feeds run on a different MHz
so they are unaffected.

But in theory, it could be that they want these channels to be heard on purpose. as a sort of this is what's going on right now.

They are using secured channels, if the channel gets to much static they are programmed to switch to back up feeds which are usually unsecured. so, alot of times when you hear mp's for instance it's because the channel is overloaded. so you will hear bits and pieces.

Not all radios do this though. I don't know what they are using. You will notice alot of times you are just hearing a response from command posts.

I hope this helps. I'm no expert either but I am on my city's system for emergency hazmat relief so I have some idea how the channels work.
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:00 AM
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39. Thanks..
Appreciate the info...

It's honestly hard to know what to think.
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:54 AM
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30. space weather link
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:55 AM
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34. but the navy was broadcasting on HF 2958.5...
earlier today, then I misplaced the link to the feed..

I dunno, Im not an expert.. I just think that this should be carefully verified.. by someone who knows alot more then I do. :)
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:50 AM
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26. If the navy is jamming, it's doing it on purpose under orders.
But people on this forum are getting calls from people in NO and making calls to them.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:51 AM
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27. Wayne Madsen
Wasn't he supposed to get whacked by a special assassination team last week? I got that in an email, anyway. Looks like he's back on the job.

Or something.
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:55 AM
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32. you are correct
I stumbled across that the other day.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:58 AM
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37. I hope nobody repeats this as some kind of news
to their loved ones or coworkers.
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mackdaddy Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:55 AM
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31. Higher Frequencies (above 40mhz) only Locally
These higher frequencies can only be jammed from the local area within 50 to 70 miles maximum. This is just like you can only receive FM radio from within this kind of distance (called line of sight).

Those frequencies below 40 mhz can possibly be transmitted from beyond the horizon via short wave "skip" effect. This is the way short wave or am radio can be heard from around the world if the conditions are right.

I am an amateur radio operator. This is a basic explanation of radio frequency range, I hope helps.

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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:07 AM
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42. About bloody time someone posted that
I am an former Electronics Technician in the USN. You simply cannot jam those frequencies without being in line of sight range. Claiming it is being done from the Carribean is just nonsense.

You are correct about certain frequencies being able to skip off of the ionosphere (think of an AM radio at night, you can often get stations from 1000 miles away) though jamming in this fashion seems highly unlikely.

Madsden is a fruitbat.
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:11 AM
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45. Ah, now don't go spoiling things with pesky, inconvenient...
...facts. That's no fun.

You're a party pooper.

:evilgrin: :toast:

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mackdaddy Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:29 AM
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50. These Specific frequencies a bit Nonsense to jam..
I did a little research of them, and they are not usually used by government agencies. The feds can and do use any frequency they feel like, but it is an odd list to jam. More likely a noisy computer device, or other generic radio noise generator.

Sorry, I don't see anything sinister in this list.



PS:Here is a fairly good Radio spectrum frequency assignment table:
http://www.jneuhaus.com/fccindex/spectrum.html#table_of_contents
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:02 AM
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40. "order the Air Force to bomb them immediately"? Why not...
...just open subspace frequencies and call in an orbital phaser barrage or photon torpedo strike from the U.S.S. Enterprise (NCC-1701, not the one that floats in the ocean)? Or are those "jammed" too?

:sarcasm: :tinfoilhat:
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nashbridges Donating Member (349 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:09 AM
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43. Are they jammed, or are people not hearing anything?
When I was doing graduate work in engineering school we worked on radios that corrupted their transmission frequencies and could only be "listened" to by other units that corrected the transmission upon receipt. If the military is in town, it's not beyond imagination that they are using open air channels with secure units.

If you are listening in with a standard civilian radio, anything they are transmitting sounds like static. At the time I worked with them, they were a comforting presence because if you could actually make out a human voice, you at least knew the guy on the other end was probably friendly.

It wasn't new technology when I worked with it. If channels appear to be wiped out now, it could be because the transmission power of the military is overwhelming smaller radios being used by people in the area. Kind of like driving very close to a radio station while you are tuned to another channel - the closer you get, the more likely you are to hear just that station, no matter what your radio is set to.

My two cents.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:18 AM
Response to Reply #43
48. Psstt.
it's bullshit
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HR_Pufnstuf Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:17 AM
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47. pirates of the caribbean??
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 01:19 AM by HR_Pufnstuf
waaayyy cool.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:47 AM
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51. Wait until you get actual reports from reporters. The quickest way
to stop us from being effective is to start with the conspiracy theories. THat alienates me from you. There are bad people in the world and Bush is one of them. Their lack of immediate military support was Bullshit. Stick to what we know to be true. And ask the reasons why.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:50 AM
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52. I'm sorry, but until I see corroborating reports from several news sources
I'm not buying this.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:55 AM
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53. Locking
dubious source
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