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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:46 PM
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Texas is NOT being generous. They are being reimbursed 100%
and with Idiot Son's corruption it will probably be 200%.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:48 PM
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1. Gov. Goodhair needs a positive for his reelection bid.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:55 PM
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39. KINKY!
My governor is a Jewish Cowboy!





... unless the Democratic candidate, who looks to be Chris Bell of Houston, is a viable contender.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:24 PM
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43. Chris Bell is a good choice.
Check out his website.

http://www.chrisbell.com/

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:49 PM
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2. That's hateful. Tell me about it when
you see people getting stuff together for the effort in just about every store, volunteering, providing housing, huge domes, convention centers, etc.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:50 PM
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3. people are volunteering everywhere
and Texas will be paid for use of all housing, domes, convention centers
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:51 PM
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7. The citizens aren't doing this for any other reason than
compassion. Stop shitting on Texas.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:08 PM
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22. It's not the people who are donating/volunteering
that are the problem.

It's the government - the privatization and all. And people should not act like someone is doing the victims a "favor" (as if they are volunteering) when they are getting paid for it - or paying Haliburton for it.


To say Texas cannot be criticized is no different than saying Bush should not be criticized. Sorry.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:42 PM
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44.  Tell me when it's okay to reward a good deed in word only;
Houston responded, possibly before any monetary anything was offered. Regardless; we now have about 200,000 people in Texas. No, this asshole government is not paying for all this, or the blood, sweat and tears Texans have gone through to help. I'm all for criticizing the government, and I haven't had many kind words for TX despite living here, but I know Texans ALWAYS give with big hearts. The victims are lucky Texas is here, and a big favor is being done, coordinated primarily by the Red Cross. Save your wrath for the real villians.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:17 AM
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47. Tom Delay coordinated the movement of victims to Texas
That should give anybody second thoughts about the movement to TX first, vs. elsewhere. Again, it's not the individual donations that are being questioned here, it's the government/political "contributions" that don't seem to really be contributions after all.
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ispeculate Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:50 PM
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4. I have no problem with that in this particular instance.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:51 PM
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5. Many TEXANS, however, are being generous.
I am seeing it with my own eyes, so please make that distinction.

We all could do more, of course.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:51 PM
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6. But TEXANS are being generous.
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 09:52 PM by chalky
We've given money, foods, time, clothes...

My nephew volunteered and will be leaving this week for NO.
My sister is taking in a family.
My SILs sister is an RN on standby for NO.
I and my SIL have given all the money we can afford (for this pay period, anyway), and are in the process of cleaning out our closets to give clothing.

And that's just in one family.

So, yeah, for Goodhair this is great PR. For the citizens, this is a duty we'll gladly take on.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:53 PM
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8. you're right, and hashing out contracts and
hiring the BFEE's crony contractors is what has caused the delay in getting the survivors of the hurricane aid. One of my earlier questions was, why was there a need to ship people out of state. La has a lot of open space and tents could have been set up as temporary shelters much closer to their former homes. It's so sad that these muther fukers are so damn greedy that they are willing to let people die for their profits. I hope if there is a hell, that there will also be a special place in it for them for all eternity.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:53 PM
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9. That's not fair
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 09:54 PM by bluestateguy
I have lived here for 7 years, and I criticize the Texas political establishment and many of its voters a lot, but your wiseass remark was below the belt.

This state is taking more evacuees than other state, which will likely impose costs in many more indirect ways that will not be reimbursed by FEMA.

Don't write a check that your butt can't cash.
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SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:53 PM
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10. We are not really about to attack Texas for taking in the evacuees are we?
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 09:53 PM by SofaKingLiberal
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:54 PM
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11. No just their rePUKE governor pretending to be compassionate
.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:00 PM
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18. Actually Goodhair was forced into action by Houston mayor Bill White.
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 10:01 PM by Zen Democrat
Bill White gets the credit here. And this will cost Texas plenty. Reimbursement by FEMA, if that ever actually happens, will be a drop in the bucket to the costs associated with 200,000+ displaced victims. The numbers in the shelters are just one part of it. Thousands of people are in private homes, donated hotel rooms and apartments. That won't last forever.
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SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:05 PM
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20. The people of Texas are taking on a great burden here.
The state government may get reimbursed by the federal government, as it should, which means we all pay the bill. I don't know much about the governor of Texas so I can't really say if I agree with that or not. But if there is any corruption with the funding, then I agree, heads should fly.
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:24 AM
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45. let's not paint with a broad brush here...
I don't like the every-repub's-always-bad attitude displayed by some posters here. What Perry did was the right thing to do, and what he said was right too. Kudos to Perry, White, and a whole bunch of other Texans who took in the refugees.
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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:54 PM
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12. Looks that way nt
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:57 PM
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15. Sounds like it to me.
:shrug:
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ispeculate Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:55 PM
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13. I am assuming this is being reimbursed by the state of TX am I right?
If so, then actually ALL Texans are paying the bill.
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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:59 PM
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17. No, the op is correct about FEMA reimbursement
however, I think its a bit harsh to slam texas for taking close to 100,000 evacuees.
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:59 PM
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40. FEMA is quirkier than you may think..
for example, if 50% of the evacuees sent to Texas need rapid medical assistance, it is likely they will receive it at the evacuation centers. Now, if you are a doctor or a hospital functioning during a national disaster, FEMA doesn't reimburse you. That's because you are doing your normal work, and what you should be thinking of doing while you're running around in an emergency triage center is collecting Medicare, Medicaid & insurance numbers, or get future addresses for the evacuees and bill them.

That's what happened on 9-11 in NYC. While there were severely hurt people who spent long periods of time in hospitals, there were tons of walk-throughs, minor injuries and people needing psychological counseling. Much of that did not get registered, much less billed to them. I was working at a hospital at the time and the only thing they were interested in was an ambulance which was destroyed during the disaster but it was insured. They did provide assistance to a hospital a few blocks from the WTC for severe infrastructure damage.

Ultimately, Schumer & Clinton got a bill pushed through to provide NY area hospitals with 9-11 related aid, but it did not come thru FEMA.
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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:10 PM
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42. No doubt
Thanks for explaining.
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ispeculate Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:00 AM
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46. yeah, I mean maybe if youre against gov't help you should be on
freerepublic and not DU.

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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:56 PM
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14. Well say what you will but
it will still be a strain on them.
Do you expect them to pay for it all?
I don't give a rat's ass if they get reimbursed.
I'm glad they were there to take these poor people.

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:58 PM
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16. But we're NOT being generous! nt
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:06 PM
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21. You most certainly are
I need to go to bed.
There seems to be so many ungrateful threads around here today.
I can't stand it.

People try to help and it's never enough


God Bless Texas !!!!!!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:34 PM
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33. Thank you!
My husband and I are going out tomorrow to spend a couple hundred on supplied to take over to KellyUSA. It's not a lot but we hope it helps.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:01 PM
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19. Arkies are the only people who are allowed to bash Texas.
Besides, anyone who takes "refugees" will get their efforts rewarded tenfold.

Remember New Orleans.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:30 PM
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29. Didn't we just remark about this very thing (bashing)?
It sounds all too familiar, unfortunately. Here we go, yet, again. Sheesh.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:39 PM
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35. Of course we did, for all the good it did us.
Anyone outside the South will never understand, I suppose. Solidarity with Texas, now and forever!

Remember New Orleans.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:48 PM
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37. You're going to make me say it, aren't you? Four words I've never spoken:
"Whoooo Pig SOOEY RAZORBACKS!"

Kinda fun!

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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:51 PM
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38. Three words for the home of Bob Wills:
HOOK 'EM HORNS!

See? It ain't so hard!

:hi:
dbt
Remember New Orleans
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:11 PM
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23. The Gov. of TN has requested this, too, and my community
is getting FEMA money for 80 apartments. I called the Chattanooga Housing Authority and confirmed this because I was going to pay for bus tickets for families or persons who wanted to relocate in this area. I was told that the units are already full so the lady that I spoke with was grateful, but leary, of my offer for the tickets because she wasn't sure there would any units available.

I will be shopping for the basics to be stored as people need them, and I will be donating money to the local community kitchen and the Food Not Bombs group, volunteering to do what needs to be done to help out. I just want to do whatever I can to ease the trauma of these survivors, and this will be a long term committment for the communities.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:30 PM
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30. FEMA is paying the cities that take in the evacuees? long term pay?
now I see why Texas made room today for 150,000 evacuees...after the
dome wanted to stop at 5000.

It must be true.

But a lot of those people are going to have to go on welfare.

How long is Fema going to pay for them?

Send your money to Habitat for Humanity.
They're going to build houses back in New Orleans for them when New
Orleans is safe from sludge and chemicals
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:16 PM
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24. There are sure a lot of people here who like to bash Texas, even when
we're doing something good.

Would you have posted this is the story was about Wisconsin or New Jersey being reimbursed for taking in evacuees? Probably not.

Businesses throughout the area have posted jobs for our new guests, many of which I imagine may stay permanently.
see- http://www.dallasnews.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=32
Do you think those business people will be reimbursed? Do you think the thousands of private citizens who are donating money, food, and clothing are going to be reimbursed?

What a mean spirited post.

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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:35 PM
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34. Well said.
I am so sick of this Texas bashing. When it turns out that other states will be getting reimbursed for the use of some facilities, will they be bashed, too? Yeah, right.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:08 PM
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41. Thank you
You're exactly right, if it was any other state no one would blink an eye. But the chance comes along to bash Texas, and people just seem to jump on it.

Texas is taking in people from New Orleans because we can. This state is full of good people who want to help. If you don't want to believe that Texas has good people, then there's nothing I can say or do to convince you otherwise.
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:24 PM
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25. Gee more Texas bashing, what a surprise.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:25 PM
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26. baloney. the private citizens are giving and giving and giving
screw the government.
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:26 PM
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27. So do you think the victims should be driven further?
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 10:26 PM by Fescue4u
perhaps they should keep driving until they find a state that finds taking them in a burden?


afterall, charity doesnt count unless it hurts the giver right?
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:28 PM
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28. Great. Perfect. Here we go again.
:eyes: I'm sure the government is flying people in from DC to handle the tens of thousands evacuated to Texas, right? It couldn't POSSIBLY be Texans doing any good for people, I'm sure.

Typical.
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:32 PM
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31. Texans are being generous and gracious
reimbersement or not.
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:33 PM
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32. I misspelled reimbursement--sorry! n/t
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:42 PM
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36. Tell that to the Texans taking in people, buying what they need
taking their kids to get registered for school, making sure they have a place to stay, helping them to find jobs, etc.

At this point, as far as I'm concerned, there IS no government. It's a sham. All of it.

It's the regular everyday people who are helping others.

And I am curious to know what this is about with the reimbursement thing. I wouldn't be surprised, but I am wondering how you mean reimbursed.

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