I am seeing a definite change in the air....

[Roxy66]

I was at the store yesterday and there were empty boxes all over the shelves, people seemed to be very disconnected and on a mission. I filled my tank yesterday, and there seemed to be a weird sense in the air. Is this something others are seeing or is it just me?

[jsamuel]

1. I think people are seeing NO and are realizing they can't rely on the Govt

they have to take care of #1 because of what Bush has done to our Govt

[lebkuchen]

4. I think you are right.

a predictable outcome for those with survival instincts.

[VolcanoJen]

2. Everyone around here is talking about the upcoming NFL season.

Life goes on as normal in head-up-its-ass Cincinnati, Ohio.

If you ask people around here about the hurricane, they say, "Oh, that? I haven't watched any of that stuff. Too depressing."

Although a few are concerned, terribly so, about where the Saints will play this season, now that the Superdome is FUBAR.

So, maybe they get it in the blue state of Oregon, but not out here in red Ohio. Even with the climbing gas prices.

[Roxy66]

6. I even live in Eastern Oregon.....the RED part of Oregon

Not by choice of course

[VolcanoJen]

7. Maybe if you had an NFL team, then?

Roxy, I'm just really discouraged by the absolute lack of outrage or concern in my community.

One of my favorite comments at work tonight, from a coworker (I'm a bartender):

"Thank God President Bush showed up. That mayor and governor didn't have a clue."

I so wish I were kidding.

Here's what's interesting though... business was HORRIBLE tonight. A Saturday night, where we're usually booked to the gills and on a two-hour wait.

Tonight, it was like a ghosttown in my restaurant.

When I mentioned to my coworkers that it might be related to depression/worry over the hurricane, I was met with a resounding "Whatever! People are just getting ready for their Labor Day cookouts!"

So who knows. But I'm sick. Absolutely sick.

[Roxy66]

12. Is Cincinnati a republican area...I thought it was mostly Dem

I'm sorry too...people must wake up, or our country will be in trouble for years to come. I'm worried for my children.

[VolcanoJen]

18. Oh, Lord, no!

The city of Cincinnati, like just about every blighted urban area in America, is Dem.

But everything surrounding Cincinnati is Republican as all get-out.

You may have heard about the recent run-off congressional election down here, with Iraq vet Paul Hackett (D) vs. Jean Schmidt (R). It got a lot of national attention. Hackett came within four points and that was a miracle in these parts. Typically, republicans win by about 25 points. I was briefly encouraged by that.

But, sadly, no, Cincinnati Metro is as red as red can be.

[Roxy66]

25. I just love that man

Hackett gives me hope that we may have a great leader for our party sometime in the future.

[liberal43110]

19. Cincinnati is hard-core Republican

Cincy and southern Ohio may as well be Georgia--they are that red.

[VolcanoJen]

21. You guys in Columbus actually went Kerry in '04, didn't you?

At least I think it was close.

Sorry we blew it for you guys down here in Limbaugh-Land. :-(

[liberal43110]

29. Just slightly

I don't know the exact margin (which I would argue was illegitimate anyway!), but it was in the 50s for Kerry. Made me proud. :) This was my first big election in Ohio (I'm from New Orleans...), so I wasn't sure how blue or red Columbus would be.

Sorry you live in Limbaugh-land.....

--Nancy

[VolcanoJen]

36. Oh, wow, Nancy.

You're from New Orleans?

How your heart must be breaking now. :hug:

And what a change, from New Orleans to Columbus!! Wow.

As far as the election results, they really tried to concentrate the disenfranchisement up there in Columbus, you know. So the fact that you guys pulled out a Kerry victory in Franklin county is all the more impressive. :-)

[liberal43110]

42. Yeah, I'm pretty upset right now

I lived in New Orleans my whole adult life, I'm not originally from there. But my family moved around so much, I don't really know what it would be like to live in any of those cities (Chicago, St. Louis, and Phoenix). I went away to college at Tulane and ended up living there 11 years.

I actually recognized an old, twisted man whom I had seen several times on the streetcar in a picture on yahoo.com today. Never thought I would recognize a face in the crowd of a natural disaster. All my friends got out, as you would expect from educated people of means.



As for Columbus, yes they tried to hard to disenfranchise traditional Democratic groups here. It was so blatantly criminal. But I hadn't thought about it the way you said: it's impressive that Columbus still went for Kerry even though we screwed the African-Americans, the poor, and the students.

[Roxy66]

43. Wow, that has got to be painful

to see the face of someone you recognized in such a horrific situation

[Roxy66]

39. I'm so sorry...

Nancy. If you had any family down there, I hope they are all safe. Much love, Lisa

[nonconformist]

27. Wow, that's depressing

Everyone I know is just devastated by what has happened.

[VolcanoJen]

38. And you're in Kentucky. What a difference a few miles...

... and a few less yuppies makes, I suppose.

:hug: :hug: :hug:

[nonconformist]

41. There are a lot of poor people here

I think people around here see the class issues here very clearly.

Beyond that, people seem genuninely shocked and saddened by this.

Then again, maybe I just hang with good people and I'm not seeing the cruel sociopathic opinions. :)

[VolcanoJen]

44. The Cincinnatians I hang with are good, compassinate people...

.. who are as destroyed about the hurricane as I am.

Unfortunately, I can't choose my coworkers or neighbors. :-)

[Syrinx]

10. there's a lot of talk about college football here, but...

It's not the same as usual. Usually, it's the main thing people are talking about this time of year. But it really seems more like a distraction than an attraction now. People still want to talk about it, but you can tell that it's more to get their minds off stuff. I admit I'm a little scared, but hopeful too. Hell, I don't know what to think really.

EDIT: I mean I'm scared for the people further south, and maybe for the country. Not myself. I'm safe. Just like everyone I'm scared for those people down there.

[Roxy66]

13. Where are you? n/t

[Syrinx]

17. well away from the destruction

But still close enough. West-central Alabama. We've got thousands of evacuees. But we were far enough inland that the worst things we suffered directly were a few days without power and phones.

[OhioChick]

11. Same here..........

life goes on. I talked to several people and heard not much in the way of frustration. Even got a "Katrina.......did it tear up Florida bad, or what?" Wow.

[VolcanoJen]

20. Life in the Buckeye State!!!

Where you from, girl?

"I'm calling you from somewhere deep in Ohio"
- The Jayhawks

[OhioChick]

22. Nice to meet a fellow Ohioan!

Coming from the Cleveland area here.

[VolcanoJen]

24. Ahhh!!! The sane, normal part of our state!!

I'm jealous of those of you who live in blue regions up north!!

[OhioChick]

26. And

the poorest part of the state. I hope we can reel the rest of the state into being blue, soon!

[VolcanoJen]

30. That has much to do with it. I'm pretty sure Cincinnati...

... is among the wealthiest, if not the richest, part of Ohio.

Hence, the greedy, "I got mine, screw you" Republican attitude that prevails down here. :-(

[OhioChick]

35. I have a friend in the Columbus area........

same attitude there. "I got mine, screw you." Don't understand why though.......they don't have all that much.

[liberal43110]

37. OMG??????????

I can't believe that. Ridiculous.

[Not_Giving_Up]

3. If the price of gas doesn't drop

the truckers will pay more for fuel. That means that the price of everything goes up. Not only that, but some truckers won't be able to afford to stay on the road...so there will be less things to buy at the store.

I've got two weeks worth of food and a full tank of gas. I'd have more food, but that was all I could swing.

The decline of civilization has begun.

[AuntiBush]

5. Strange You Mention This: Same here.

Really. Noticed and felt the same exact thing. To a tee.

Sept. 7 is coming. We know about it here, does everyone else? As I go out more and more lately, people seemed to know even more then us here.

Our country is awake. But it's creepy, eerie, and something is just scary dead wrong.

[tservo]

9. What happens on Sept.7?

?

[wli]

15. What did they know about Sept. 7? n/t

[AuntiBush]

32. Run A Google Search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=live+nuke+head+drills+sept+7+bases&btnG=Google+Search

[Roxy66]

16. Sept 7th...what are we supposed to know? n/t

[AuntiBush]

31. There are a lot of posting out here about it.

All military must stay on their bases w/no leave. Reportedly, those live nuke head drills are to commence.

Sure do notice a lot of off-based postings to the original post here all of a sudden.

Beware of the trolls!

[lvx35]

28. You're making me create chatter. What is it?

You said that, so I'm searching the Internet for portents of doom about about 9/7, including "9/7/05 terrorist attack", which is in turn being caught by DHS filters, and being reported as chatter. Soon the threat level will rise and it will be all you're fault!!! :)

[AuntiBush]

34. Here:

Google it: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=live+nuke+head+drills+sept+7+bases&btnG=Google+Search

[lvx35]

40. Oh Yes!!!

relevant because of the drills on 9/11/01 and 7/7/05. Uh oh.

tinfoil hat time:
9/7 is the month of 9/11 and the day of 7/7

9/11/01...
11 - 4 = 7
01 + 4 = 5
9/7/05

the magick number is 4. AQ sending terror to the "four quarters" of london, and to the "east west north and south" of America.

Enough spoken in maths to send a message. :tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat:

[newswolf56]

8. I think people are realizing this is the beginning of the end...

of life in America as we have known it. Locally a lot of people had already begun by Wednesday stocking up to avoid the inevitable shortages that will come from Katrina's damage to port facilities and the collapse of the transportation system imposed by Katrina's 15-25 percent reduction in the long-term fuel supply. Blue-staters in an area under volcanoes and subject to earthquakes, we also very much fear the Bush vindictiveness so horrifically demonstrated by the neglectful genocide inflicted on New Orleans. I am going out to the store now in Tacoma and when I get back I will report on anything significant I might have found.

[newswolf56]

45. Reporting as promised: no shortages tonight beyond those attributable...

to the Labor Day holiday and first of the month buying. Even a good supply of bananas -- though for how much longer (since N.O. is a main banana port) remains to be seen.

[mojavekid]

14. Sadly, here most people are talking about the high gas prices,

and are WORRIED. I feel worried for them as well, and for my Family, though we have been slowly preparing for the last 1 1/2 years, and for us not a suprise.

When I mention whats going on in Louisiana and Mississippi, they seem to respond with kind of a startled "what!?"

[lvx35]

23. Everyone - literally everyone - was talking about it today.

I agree, the air has changed.

[judgegina]

33. yes...

it is time to get rid of these fuck ups. I've had it...we must change the direction this great country is taking. REVOlution!