MSNBC:"Last refugees evacuated from New Orleans" that's a LIE

[KeepItReal]

"Last refugees evacuated from New Orleans

Sliver of hope that the worst is over as city turns to dealing with its dead

NBC, MSNBC and news services
Updated: 5:46 a.m. ET Sept. 4, 2005

NEW ORLEANS - As the last weary refugees evacuated from New Orleans, the shattered city drew closer to dealing with its dead, confronting a gruesome landscape of scattered corpses that were expected to number in the thousands.

No one knows how many people were killed by Hurricane Katrina and how many more succumbed waiting to be rescued. But the bodies are everywhere: hidden in attics, floating in the ruined city, crumpled in wheelchairs, abandoned on highways."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9156612/


There are still survivors out there. This sh*t sounds like Americans are being left to die. Everyone capable of being rescued may not be if this is the attitude of the people in charge.

Listen to WWL-TV or WDSU out of N.O. and you can easily see that there are way more people still out there needing help.

http://www.wwltv.com
http://www.wdsu.com

[jody]

1. Another "Mission Accomplished". n/t

[Don Claybrook]

2. I just read something last night about this

and I wish I remembered the source, but I don't.

The article said that, after the convention center and the superdome were evacuated, there were roughly the same number of people left in New Orleans as the number that had been evacuated in the last few days, 50-50. Did anyone else see this?

[DoYouEverWonder]

3. A lot of people are still trapped in houses

and just starting to come out has the water goes down in some places. Surprisingly I am sure people who had houses taller then one story could still alive. Especially if they had food and water of their own.

[auracat]

4. they're talking about breaking the levee soon

i think in st. bernard, which will bring the water down more.
i hear them saying that people are still 'crawling out of the woodwork' and i can hear the rescues ongoing.

[DoYouEverWonder]

13. You wouldn't believe

the trolls that argued with me yesterday saying this sort of thing couldn't be done. I'm glad the real engineers are moving along and getting the job done. The sooner the water goes away the better. Then a lot of people can return to what's left of their homes.

[auracat]

14. i would believe. believe me. heh.

i was called a cunt for suggesting that bush should have took off early from his vacation and that busses should have been rented with that relief money.

[DoYouEverWonder]

17. I use to think

that some of the stuff that was spewed around here the last few days only happened at FR. There are at least a few people around here who showed there true colors and some of it was quiet sickening at times.

[auracat]

19. this place is gentle compared to many others

yet we keep on. unlike 9-11, there are many many routes for the truth to spread. the area is too big to put a lid on.



i've been transcribing scanner but i have to go do other stuff now.

i hope smurfygirl or someone is doing it.

i just heard them say they want to pick up 100 people at some location.."fema is in the area, but it might be more efficient for you to pick them up."

no shit.. heh.

[DoYouEverWonder]

22. Yes, I've read some of those threads

You are really doing a service documenting that stuff. Good for you and good to have you on DU. Thanks.

PBWY
DYEW

[auracat]

23. thank you

i'm happy i've found Something i can do to help.
red cross wouldn't take me since i'm not 'trained'.

[sattahipdeep]

25. That's why blackwater is there

they don't want any poor people in Cheneys new town.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1747674

[auracat]

26. imminent domain? oil? or just clean up contracts.

all lucrative. maybe another wave will wipe out those haliburton kbr people.
a public works project would be so much better, give the poor people work helping themselves.

[Missy M]

5. None should have succumbed waiting to be rescued....

it makes me so angry and filled with rage that the people died because
of the complete incompetence of bush and his administration. How was this allowed to happen in this country so filled with every resource available for rescuing people and providing food and drink.

[KeepItReal]

8. How'd it happen? Incompetent, uncaring GOP running EVERYTHING Federal.

Incompetent, uncaring and unqualified to lead this rescue.

[Missy M]

10. Then that makes them incompetent to lead anything and they...

should all be thrown out.

[KeepItReal]

15. AGREED

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[DoYouEverWonder]

31. It wasn't incompetence

It was deliberate. The economy is going to roar back has a result. Hurricane recovery is good business.

[smurfygirl]

6. well, I'm listening to the scanner feeds

and it sounds like there is a whole lot of rescue going on right now.

and explosions, and a chemical spill at the refinery, and an urgent need for food and water....
it's still a mess.

[auracat]

9. did you hear that about breaking the levee?

[sattahipdeep]

11. #12

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4602379&mesg_id=4602379

[auracat]

12. thanks n/t

[sattahipdeep]

7. Citizens Survivors 80,000 people still stranded in New Orleans.

NEW ORLEANS (Reuters)

Tens of thousands of evacuees have already been taken to stadiums and other shelters in
Texas and northern Louisiana. But military officials said up to 80,000 people were still
stranded in New Orleans.

"THIS IS WRONG"
Many were angry at the government.

"They have us living here like animals," said Wvonnette Grace-Jordan, who was at the New
Orleans convention centre with five children. "We have only had two meals, we have no
medicine and now there are thousands of people defecating in the streets. This is wrong. This
is the United States of America."


http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-09-03T224334Z_01_MCC310391_RTRUKOC_0_UK-KATRINA.xml

[SuperDadOf5]

16. Why are they called refugees?

AS my 12 year has pointed out, it is incorrect to call the survivors "refugees".

ref·u·gee ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rfy-j)
n.
One who flees in search of refuge, as in times of war, political oppression, or religious persecution.


It is a silly distinction to point out in light of the devastation the people of New Orleans (and the region) have had to endure. Certainly, my prayers are for the vcitims of the storm, but the focus should be on getting the aid to these people and then getting the people out (i.e. evacuate).

[marshall]

24. tsunami survivors were called refugees

Using the term refugee for natural disaster survivors entered further into our lexicon last year with the tsunami survivors. Google or LexisNexis a search on the tsunami, you will find the survivors were called refugees and there was no uproar over the term. I think it lends a sense of urgency to the survivors' plight that is needed.

And in regards to the news report that "all" have been evacuated, I think they must have been confused and were talking about the Superdome, because I think they are all evacuated (or at least not in the Superdome anymore). Anybody with any knowledge about what is going on knows that the entire area is full of people holed up in attics and upper floors of buildings, all the way down to the parishes south of New Orleans. It is vital that they be helped now.

[SuperDadOf5]

27. the quiet uproar?

While I'm not sure an "uproar" has occurred, I was simply pointing out that the word doesn't quite fit. I have found there is another thread that is debating this. It should be pointed out that more importantly, the foicus needs to be on the survivors and getting them the help they need. Yes, now that you mention it, I do remeber last year's tsunami victims referred to as refugees. It doesn't make it correct though...

[auracat]

29. if they are called citizens then

that implies that they are tax paying upstanding home owning americans, if they are called refugees, well, they're just poor folk looking for a hand out.

[rosesaylavee]

18. Nominated because this needs to get out to the GP n/t

[cynatnite]

20. Yesterday a time reporter said 45,000 still in NO

I find it hard to believe they could get that many out in less than 24 hours.

[geekgrrl]

21. yeah- like yesterday when they said Charity was evacuated and then said

later on that it wasn't and showed footage (live) of people still there and dying.

[KeepItReal]

28. Damn I'm so sick of the GOP and the National Media. Local news is the only

thing keeping them (FEMA and Bush & Co.) from f*cking this "rescue" up even more.

WWL-TV and WDSU out of New Orleans are saving lives by giving the people on the ground a VOICE in REALTIME.

[Mr_Spock]

30. Of course it's a lie

They said in the next sentence that there were "hundreds" of stragglers (CNN I think) - whatever. Stupid fucks feel obligated to show some sort of finality even if it is a baldfaced lie.