glarius
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:13 AM
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Cokie Roberts said Bush will lose his reputation as being a strong |
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decisive leader, which he earned after the 9/11 attack....My question is what big decisions did he make then?...It was Giuliani in New York who was the strong leader at that time...As I remember it, Bush's big contribution was to go to ground zero, throw his arm around a fireman, and give his God bless America spiel...which has been his main contribution ever since....This current crisis (Katrina) demands real decisions being made by a real leader and of course Bush is in way over his head....He went for the photo ops again (hugging the two girls for instance) but this time it won't wash....His goose is cooked....
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:14 AM
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1. He's gone from a lame duck... |
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to a dead duck. Quack, quack.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:20 AM
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that's sooo funny!!! Thanks for the good laugh, I needed it!
Seriously, Bush's fantasy as being a strong leader and tough in a crisis is just a PR campaign. Apparently a successful one until now but it's still just a fantasy.
I don't see any way how he can wiggle out of this one.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:14 AM
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2. I want some of what these jerks are drinking |
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and large quantities too please.
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Sun Sep-04-05 03:01 PM
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32. Hey, they don't call her "Cokie" for nothing... |
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:15 AM
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3. Agreed. I've always said it was Guliani, NOT Bush who was such a great |
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leader on 9/11 and beyond.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:16 AM
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6. Rudy sucked too! Sorry . Rudy is NOT a great leader. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:33 AM
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17. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I thought Rudy was |
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great in his reaction to 9/11. I think there are very few men or women who could have displayed his leadership and wisdom in the face of that tragedy.
I know that he wasn't particularly well liked in NYC prior to the attacks, but come on.....he was outstanding in his response.
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Sun Sep-04-05 11:34 AM
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23. bush never won the election! |
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surely that is pertinent to any thinking on any subject involving the bush admin! guiliani never gave bush's illegitimacy a moment's thought...hell he aided abetted the bloodiest crook the us political system has ever confronted! if people conveniently forget bush never won the election, and thus had/has no legal authority, they delude themselves big time...is the USA a democratic society, or aint it?
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Sun Sep-04-05 01:48 PM
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24. You are not a New Yorker are you? I am a born and bred NY'e and believe me |
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we have always held Rudy in contempt, before and after. He certainly is no paragon of "family values" and the corruption he brought to NY is legendary. He botched 9-11. Many people could have been saved but for his ineptitude, particularly in the location of the command unit. This America's Mayor bullshit was made up by the Repukes. NYers know better.
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Sun Sep-04-05 02:19 PM
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He looked good on TV, walking down the street with the hard hat and determined look on his face. :sarcasm:
apparently appearances is enough for some.
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Sun Sep-04-05 01:58 PM
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27. Rudy stood up, talked, and showed true emotion. |
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While Bush was hiding in a hole in the midwest.
Love him or hate him as a mayor, Rudy did good on that particular day. He went down to the WTC before it collapsed and certainly put himself in harm's way. Later in the day, he spoke with true emotion and gave the nation a bit of comfort when things were truly bleak.
...all while Bush was hiding in a hole in the midwest.
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Sun Sep-04-05 03:05 PM
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35. As an NYC resident: didn't/don't like him. However, right after 9/11 |
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he did indeed show himself well, probably mostly in comparison to fuckwit Chimp. He's a complex personality, Giuliani. I think he's been horrible for the arts and the underclass and god knows for nightlife, among other things/people. I shudder at the thought of him running the country. But unlike Bush, he's not an unmitigated disaster, and he *was* a good leader after the attacks, I will give him that.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:15 AM
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4. Don't forget, he said 'we're going to visit whoever knocked down these |
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walls' or whatever. So he's got THAT going for him.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:15 AM
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5. Cokie is an asshat! "will lose" ? If he hasn't already lost it, he never |
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will! And Guliani did nothing speacial in NY. In fact, he set up the Command Center in the lobby of the World Trade Center. Rudy was NO great leader and I am tired of being told he was. No one in NY thinks Rudy was a saint and a hero. That is Repuke spin.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:19 AM
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8. For reasons beyond my comprehension |
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Bush had been viewed as a strong leader. No more. This was her point.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:22 AM
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12. Exactly.....he is a phony poseur.....that is all! |
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On his own, he is unable to make important decisions, because he is so damned uninformed about everything...
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:19 AM
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9. I am happy to see even that coming from her. Put in context |
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who we are talking about here. That is very strong criticism considering it is Cokie Roberts.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:36 AM
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19. Cokie's family lost their house |
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Her mom lives in the French Quarter and her house is destroyed. Mind you, she has the resources to regroup far easier most of the survivors, but my heart still goes out to her.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:45 AM
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Cokie is a card carriing beltway whore. Her efforts, along with others of the whores, brought chimpie to power. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind. The beltway whores are forever beyond the pale. They have blood on their hands.
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Sun Sep-04-05 11:16 AM
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21. I was referring to Lindy Boggs |
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Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 11:37 AM by marbuc
but extending to the whole Boggs family, including Cokie Roberts, whom I like.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:17 AM
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says that Bush was a "strong, decisive leader" in the wake of 9/11 I want to gag and/or smack them. My two cats are more decisive than he is. (And quite frankly, even for cats they aren't rocket scientists.)
I suppose that in person he has a certain kind of smarmy charm, if that sort of thing impresses you. Personally, I've known enough men like him (foolishly dated a couple in my youth) that I hope I'd never again be bamboozled by someone like that.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:35 AM
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18. thanks for that one. i needed a laugh...'cats...rocket scientists...' n/t |
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Sun Sep-04-05 03:03 PM
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33. I'll put my cat up against your two for dumbness any day |
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And he's STILL more decisive and capable than the Chimperor. And right now I'm watching try to figure out how to get off the top of the refrigerator he just jumped on. Hint Southpaw: It's the countertop to your right.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:19 AM
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10. well, she should know about losing one's reputation |
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:24 AM
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Strong and decisive, huh? Is that about how he marched smartly into a war based on lies, when the whole world was begging him to stop?
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:28 AM
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15. Cokie needs to realize... |
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...that he never was a strong leader he was just playing one on TV.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:31 AM
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Imagine all of Harlem and the Bronx under 20 feet of water. Rudy would've been crying like a 5-year-old, waiting for his * to save his ass.
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Sun Sep-04-05 11:33 AM
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22. Bush already lost it Cokie |
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And ghouliani was a great cover-up operative. :argh:
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Sun Sep-04-05 01:50 PM
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25. And all Giuliani did was go on TV and reassure people in New York. |
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There's no TV for the stranded masses in the Gulf Coast. I've heard this crap about how New Orleans needs Giuliani. What a sick joke.
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Sun Sep-04-05 01:52 PM
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She's as infantile and intellectually challenged as her hero, chimp. WHAT REPUTATION AS A STRONG LEADER? You mean the one you and other corporate media whores manufactured for him? That one?
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Sun Sep-04-05 02:01 PM
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28. Reputation as being strong? |
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What about his reputation as being human?
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Sun Sep-04-05 02:41 PM
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30. I wonder if MSM will ever view 9/11 for what it was- a FAILURE for Bush! |
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9/11=Failure (Aug 6 PDB IGNORED: 'Bin Laden determined to attack America') Iraq War = Failure War on Terror = Failure Katrina Relief = Failure
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Sun Sep-04-05 02:59 PM
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31. He never had a "reputation". He was AWOL on 911 - He's AWOL now! |
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Only the whore media, with cookie at the lead, fanned the LIES that bunkerboy did ANYTHING!
He ran away.
He hid (hence "bunkerboy")
He LIED.
He schemed.
He was AWOL then, just like he's AWOL NOW!
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Sun Sep-04-05 03:04 PM
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34. what was cokie's quote about having a C student as president? |
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didn't she say something about how refreshing it would be?
anyone remember? circa 2000.
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Sun Sep-04-05 03:05 PM
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36. Well, he stood on some rubble for a photo op with |
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a sort of uncomfortable looking fireman.
Then he used 9/11 to shred our civil librerties and underfunded our infrastructure to fund a war of choice.
Oh yeah, he won't look as good.
Do you ever feel you're the only sane person left in Bizarroworld?
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Sun Sep-04-05 03:07 PM
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37. There reallly was no more crisis after the attacks |
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That couldn't be handled on a state and local level. The areas of damage were localized and all Bush did was put his ugly mug as the face of the response, taking credit from the people actually doing the work. That's what they are trying to do now, by having him do something different each day. Just watch over the next couple of days, you will see what I'm talking about.
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