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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:00 PM
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60 Minutes on CBS now; Nagin interviewed. nt
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:01 PM
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1. That's Eastern or Central time zone only
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 06:03 PM by LiviaOlivia
eom
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:03 PM
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2. Central Standard Time too.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:04 PM
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4. Not Pacific.
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 06:05 PM by LiviaOlivia
I just wish people would add their time zones. I appreciate the guest list info.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:23 PM
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37. Bush let him take a shower on Air Force One
Taking a shower in Bush's shower would make me feel filthy.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:15 PM
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48. Bush probably had a two way mirror in there
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 07:15 PM by goclark

Bush thought he looked a little like Jeffie Boy Gannon.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:03 PM
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3. I'm in Central, but thanks; 6pmCT on CBS. nt
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:29 PM
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40. NO Mayor Ray Nagin is STILL Pissed -------- -------- -------- > MP3
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:05 PM
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5. Here we go
(congrats on starting the first thread - mine came a minute later so I'll just join yours)
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:07 PM
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6. Is there a link? n/t
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:07 PM
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7. Too many people died because of lack of action, lack of coordination,
and some goofy laws...about state vs. feds...

It was just BS...Bullcrap - when people are dying, bureaucracy should be out of the picture
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:08 PM
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8. He actually saw the Superdome suicide
That had to be hard to take. Also cops are committing suicide. Damn these bastards.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:08 PM
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9. This is hell
To not have IMMEDIATE response in the USA is unacceptable.

If we can deploy troops - Nat'l Guard around the world -

We're not talking about taking over a country, this is 500,00 people - this should have been taken care of
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:08 PM
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10. Explaining what happened
"There is no doubt about it. I watched a guy jump from the Superdome. He just couldn't take it anymore. I have two police officers that have committed suicide. They couldn't take it anymore...."

If we can deploy troops around the world,... it should have gotten done.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:08 PM
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11. never imagined NO abandonded by the state and federal govt
when people are dying beaurocracy should be throen out....
2 police officers have committed suicide, it's hell.

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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:09 PM
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12. Give 'em hell!!!!
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:09 PM
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13. They played the clip from the radio the other night
and didn't bleep out 'goddamn'!!r
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:10 PM
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14. Everybody needs to get ready - we're gonna drain this city and
then we'll do a body count...Thousands have died

And we'll find out if they died from the storm or the lack of aid

:(
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:18 PM
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50. I hope so.
I think it needs to be done.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:10 PM
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15. when we get to ...seek and find... body count.
and people will wonder was it the storm, or lack of response?
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:11 PM
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16. Police chief almost got kidnapped as a hostage at the Convention
Center

Police officers crying - on the radio - I'm running out of ammo in a gunfight

People giving him their babies to take care of them

Little old ladies saying let me lay down and die

:cry:
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:12 PM
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17. Well I guess they finally let the airboats in. n/t
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:12 PM
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18. Airboats
This is probably the first time I've seen airboats in NO all week.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:25 PM
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38. FL tried to send 500 airboats early on
and they were turned back by FEMA.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:12 PM
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19. Showing Texas Game Wardens going to evacuate the Charity Hospital
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 06:12 PM by meganmonkey
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:14 PM
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21. Talking to Doctor about moving up the emergencdy room to a higher floor
Lost some patients

Little old lady in ICU for 3 days, on ventilator - her husband stayed with her. They got her to the heliport to evacuate and she died in the roof waiting for a helicoptor

:cry:
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:14 PM
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20. the hospital stuff is horrible....
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:15 PM
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22. Honore on now
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:16 PM
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23. Why'd it take so long? Honore said it took time to get there
'Who knew the levee would break?' :grr:

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:32 PM
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41. Took too long to get there ?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/20050827-1.html

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
August 27, 2005

Statement on Federal Emergency Assistance for Louisiana




The President today declared an emergency exists in the State of Louisiana and ordered Federal aid to supplement state and local response efforts in the parishes located in the path of Hurricane Katrina beginning on August 26, 2005, and continuing.

The President's action authorizes the Department of Homeland Security, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), to coordinate all disaster relief efforts which have the purpose of alleviating the hardship and suffering caused by the emergency on the local population, and to provide appropriate assistance for required emergency measures, authorized under Title V of the Stafford Act, to save lives, protect property and public health and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in the parishes of Allen, Avoyelles, Beauregard, Bienville, Bossier, Caddo, Caldwell, Claiborne, Catahoula, Concordia, De Soto, East Baton Rouge, East Carroll, East Feliciana, Evangeline, Franklin, Grant, Jackson, LaSalle, Lincoln, Livingston, Madison, Morehouse, Natchitoches, Pointe Coupee, Ouachita, Rapides, Red River, Richland, Sabine, St. Helena, St. Landry, Tensas, Union, Vernon, Webster, West Carroll, West Feliciana, and Winn.

Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency. Debris removal and emergency protective measures, including direct Federal assistance, will be provided at 75 percent Federal funding.

Representing FEMA, Michael D. Brown, Under Secretary for Emergency Preparedness and Response, Department of Homeland Security, named William Lokey as the Federal Coordinating Officer for Federal recovery operations in the affected area.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: FEMA (202) 646-4600.

# # #



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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:16 PM
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24. General: Who knew the levees would break?
um, everyone?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:17 PM
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he's been partially brain-washed.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:17 PM
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25. Nagin was great
He's terrific. He's so spontaneous, so real. Compare his genuine human concern and warmth AND HIS RIGHTEOUS ANGER to the sock puppet who went in and hugged some "survivors" with clean tennis shoes.




Cher
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:43 PM
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46. don't cha know?
everybody got new ones when them looters emptied the shoe store :sarcasm:
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:17 PM
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26. Showing airlifts of people, showing sandbags dropped on levees
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:18 PM
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29. Saying 'levees' didn't break, actually, it was the floodwalls that broke
:shrug:

(it's all the same to us landlocked folks)
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:23 PM
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35. There are walls on top of the levees
for protection during flood conditions. (I believe). ;)
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:17 PM
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27. failures were in floodwalls, not levees....
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:22 PM
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34. That's the first time I have heard that at all
Seven days later and they are just NOW saying that it wasn't the levees? What were they repairing in blivet**'s photo-op then? The flood wall?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:17 PM
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28. The levees didn't fail... not one.
The fault was in the flood walls.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:20 PM
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30. Nagin talking about Bush now - Saying Bush was aware Nagin was
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 06:20 PM by meganmonkey
pissed...Asked Bush what would he have done in his shoes (my pet goat, anyone?)

Bush acknowledged that 'they' (the feds?) could have done better
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:21 PM
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32. Honore back - saying they will go into every building, every room
to find bodies.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:20 PM
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31. bush to nagin: "i know we could have done better"
and he let him take a shower on AF1
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:22 PM
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33. Nagin estimated up to 50,000 body count -
do the math based on population, # evacuated, # rescued...
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:23 PM
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36. wow that was almost great-
except for that Newt Gingrinch lookin' muthafuya...

Thanks fer the heads-up!
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RandiFan1290 Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:27 PM
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39. Nagin took a few shots at Gov. Blanco
Anyone catch that?
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:38 PM
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45. Yep, "goofy laws" covered her too :)
Bottom line, GWB realigned FEMA since 9/11 and now bureacracy screwed up the disaster prevention and aid chain of command resulting in alot of confusion.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:33 PM
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42. NAGIN FOR PRESIDENT
No more BUSHIT!
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:33 PM
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43. i watched, and read along here.
what, not a single nom?

dp
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:34 PM
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44. NOT impressed. He did a John McCain. What a wuss.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:10 PM
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47. Ya know. Its amazing how a complete cavity search by the Secret Service,,,
...can change ones attitude.

Don
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:16 PM
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49. What did he say? Does anyone have a link? n/t
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