Can someone explain what this freeper is saying?

[serryjw]

On http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=24745 when someone was posting explaining how all the FEMA cut backs under Bushit gave way to this disaster....Freeper responce
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FEMA & New Orleans Leadership Failure (Score:1)
By darrylinvegas on Thursday September 1, 2005 at 8:32 pm MST (#74675)

Read the 2002 Budget Proposal. FEMA requested 2.2 billion, mentioning it could save $166 million by having all public buildings cover their disaster insurance and reduce the federal share for funding from 75% to 50%. Please note that Bush did not reduce federal sharing as FEMA mentioned. If any of you watched TV today, Bush increased that from 75% to 100%. FEMA also proposed that the NFIP (National Flood Insurance Program) no longer cover investment and commercial properties and properties in "repetitive loss" zones.

The real problem here lies with the office of the mayor and governor. These are the two leaders who failed because they never established command and control (like real leaders do). Where is the mayor's command post? Didn't Guiliani have one? Didn't Pataki have one? Guiliani even said they had to scrap conventional plans to accomodate the size of the catostrophe, meaning he assigned event coordinators to work with FEMA, Red Cross, FDNY, and NYPD. The EC's streamlined information between agencies and delegated the work from the command post. This did not happen in New Orleans and a good example of the difference between good and bad leaders. These liberal clows failed miserably and now you libs want to dump this on GW's lap. Since when is the President of the United States reponsible for the Disastery Recovery Plan of New Orleans? That is the responsiblity of the mayor! Where are these leaders now? We saw plenty of Guiliani and Pataki after 9/11, setting up command and leading their city and state. These bums in New Orleans have fled the city and left their people stranded.

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[GeorgeBushytail]

1. Echoing the Bush excuses

Find the lowest-level person you can blame.

Business as usual for the GOP.

[FreedomAngel82]

4. Of course

Blaming the mayor and governor.

[Waya]

10. What this little twit forgets to mention is....

...that our Glorious George declared the State of Emergency for the State of Louisiana a day or two (can't remember which) prior to Katrina's arrival. That suggests that the Feds have some responsibility toward Disaster relief in the event of...doesn't it?
Besides - where the hell you gonna put a commandpost when the whole damn thing will flood? And how the hell is one to communicate from said command post if not even cell phones are working?

[tinrobot]

2. Where is the mayor's command post?

Ummm... under 10 feet of water, like the rest of the city.

About 5% of New York was directly affected by the WTC collapse (i.e Wall St/Financial district), ALL of New Orleans was destroyed, so comparing New Orleans to NYC is apples and oranges.

[ClassWarrior]

3. How can one have "command and control" when the feds are fighting you...

...for command and control??

NGU.

[MSgt213]

5. And cutting your communication lines

[jody]

6. The only way is to take each assertion and prove it either right or wrong.

There are only three people who must ultimately bear the blame -- mayor, governor, and president.

It's highly probable that all three were derelict in various degrees.

Still Bush bears the greatest blame because he had command of the entire nation's government resources and authority to commandeer civilian resources as needed.

[jbnow]

7. The freeper is saying

they are an idiot.
Really. New York had electricity. Guiliani and Pataki had electricity, were not IN the disaster, just near it. They did not give orders to the rescuers.It was two+ buildings, not an entire city.

The mayor has a "command center" in a flooded hotel in a flooded city.

But mostly...let the idiot freepers talk to each other.

[are_we_united_yet]

8. Fucking Kool-aid drinker

[xchrom]

9. lol -- another idiot over looks facts to spew shit.

in america there's a never ending well of the intellectually challenged.

[kahleefornia]

11. I just read a good one

listing all the ways that * was not responsible for anything at all - not responsible for hurricanes, not responsible for building LA on on floodplain, not responsible for NO not having a good emergency plan...ON and ON.

Hey - he's just THE PRESIDENT. Why should he be expected to be in control of ANYTHING???? Geez people.

So, of course, this reasoning really swayed me and I am now a Republican.

[porphyrian]

12. "I'm a stupid fucking bush apologist..."

"...and I think shilling for the traitor is the right thing to do. You see, externalizing responsibility for all failure is how I can live in denial about my own incompetence, and I respect an administration that does the same. Also, by targeting our political enemies, we can turn failure into success! Well, for about 2% of the population, give or take."

[madeline_con]

13. Where is the mayor's command post?

This dingleberry doesn't realize the hotel room where the Mayor stayed would automatically be considered his "command post"??

What this FREEKER is saying: "I'm a dumbass who wants to appear intelligent, so I'll repeat some FREEKER b.S. for you to read."

[boston bean]

14. Oh he increased their insurane coverage to 100%, is that what that

says.

Am i reading it wrong, or was he anticipating or hoping NO would be underwater and he could make all these people go away happy, at least the ones rich enought to afford insurance,

Screw the poor people.

He wanted this city for his friends. No he didn't make it happen, but he was negligent on purpose if it did.

[marbuc]

21. I think he's saying he increase the federal share of insurance to 100 %

[Old and In the Way]

15. How does a mayor of one of the largest and poorest cities,

given 48 hours to evacuate 1 million people even know who is left in the city as the hurricane hits? How does a mayor react immediately afterwards when the City is completely destroyed by a Class 4/5 hurricane?

And why do Freepers expect he can evacuate 1MM people in 2 days while the combined resources of our federal government/FEMA can't get 50,000 people out in 6 days?

I only thank God that they didn't sign their control over to FEMA a week ago Thursday. We'd be see bodies 6 feet deep in New Orleans.

[marbuc]

16. He's talking out his arse, another armchair general

Though my mind is still blown over the notion of a freeper reading a proposed budget, he is speaking on a subject he knows nothing about. We do not know where the Katrina command and control post was, but this doesn't mean one does not exist. Also, they had no means to communicate, so what would they control?

Besides, comparing the two is like apples and oranges, the sites are obviously completely different in any way imaginable. I'm not so sure that St. Rudy would succeed where LA Officiald have "failed."

[mcscajun]

17. Simple...he got the memo.

Blame the Governor, Blame the Mayor, it's not Bush's fault.

"See? Everything is under control, it's just those damned liberals stirring up shit as usual. They don't have the facts; we do."

BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT!!!

[Totally Committed]

18. I'll translate:

It's not Bush's fault. Nothing is ever Bush's fault. It is the fault of the Democratic mayor and the Democratic governor. Oh, and Bill Clinton, too!

The head of FEMA is a great guy. Bush loves him, so I do, too. FEMA did nothing wrong. The people of NO were told to evacuate, and chose to stay. It's their fault, too. If they left, they wouldn't have been dying in the streets. So, iit's not Bush's fault. Nothing is ever Bush's fault.

This was not a 9/11 where Pataki and Giuliani knew what they were doing. Democrats don't know how to handle emergencies. It's not Bush's fault. Nothing is ever Bush's fault.

Fuck you, Liberals!

Fuck you, Black people!

Fuck you, Poor people!

Fuck you Democrats!

It's not Bush's fault. Nothing is ever Bush's fault. How could he have ever known those levees would break?


TC

[madrchsod]

19. who fucking cares what they think...

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. Giuliani was running around like everybody else until AFTER the collapses

The notion that Giuliani had any "command and control" over the situation in Lower Manhattan on the morning of September 11 is laughable, and disputes even his own account. It wasn't until AFTER the north tower collapsed that anybody started consolidating anything. Quite possibly, several hundred firefighters died due to faulty communications equipment. Any firefighter, police officer, or EMS who was at the World Trade Center that morning will tell you that coordination was catch as catch can, that lines were crossed, that radios didn't work, and that nobody knew what the fuck was going on. Giuliani himself - according to footage shot and shown in the HBO special 9/11: In Memoriam, was running around Lower Manhattan with little clue as to what to do, so much so that he was himself stuck in a building after the first collapse. Following that, his supreme "command and control" skills told him to announce over New York 1 that everybody should "go north." Wow! What stunning coordination in the midst of disaster! Oh, and Giuliani had the benefit of electricity still running in almost all of New York. Not so lucky the dozens of firefighters sitting on the 30th floor of WTC 1 with slipshod radios long after the collapse of WTC2. We should end this illusion that Giuliani was some supreme commander on 9/11. He made extremely moving statements AFTER THE FACT, but that's about it. He was never in control when the events were ongoing.

By the way, I was at the following locations on the morning of September 11, 2001:

First plane hits North Tower: Chambers and Broadway, Lower Manhattan
Second plane hits South Tower: Broadway and Wall Street/ Trinity Church, Lower Manhattan
First Collapse: South Street and Old Slip, Lower Manhattan
Second Collapse: On ramp to Brooklyn Bridge, Lower Manhattan

Don't tell me things were being "coordinated," because they very clearly were not.

[chalky]

22. "Read the 2002 Budget Proposal."

Well, that would be interesting reading, I'm sure, but I'm actually interested in what passed and not what was proposed.

$250 million in crucial projects remained to be carried out with SELA (Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project) but under the budget--you know, the one that actually passed--after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle.

The levee board noted in October 2004 that the feds were also now not paying for a hoped-for $15 million project to better shore up the banks of Lake Pontchartrain.

[Igel]

23. By "trickle" you mean half of what was requested.

At least that's what later reports on Congressional budget allocations said.

I was rather surprised: it really did come out to half. For the last 4 years of the 10 year plan.