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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:52 PM
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I just had an awful thought and I wish I didn't think it was possible.
But really, I wouldn't put it past the administration to start "disappearing" the dead in order to avoid the public outcry if we find out just how many lost their lives in this catastrophy.

They've gotten away with so much that I didn't think was possible.
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TheFriar Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:54 PM
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1. they won't bother
They couldn't do it anyway. they will concentrate on escaping blame for incompetence.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:54 PM
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I think so too.
They won't want to have to admit that many, many more people die in Katrina than 9/11.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:54 PM
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2. Why Wouldn't They?
It's too obvious. Governments always lie about great catastrophes. The British government pretended the Battle of the Somme had simply never happened. Also Paschendale and after Gallipoli.

And how many people ever heard about the USS Indianapolis?

And then Lyndon Johnson simply pretended a million Vietnamese and 59,000 Americans had fallen off the face of the earth.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:00 PM
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8. Government use propaganda in times of war. Katrina is not a war...
propaganda would be against the law in this case. Both the Somme & Gallipoli were battles during the war. It is legal to use propaganda for info in a war.

Whether some wars are legal is another question.

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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:18 PM
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16. We ARE in a war. The battle ground is the MINDS of American citizens.
It is a class war. It is a war between those who believe in Democracy and those who believe that Corporations should rule by fiat and deception.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:55 PM
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3. They lie about everything else. Why not about this "detail"? Isn't
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 10:56 PM by Radio_Lady
the whole city under martial law? Are there any newspeople who will be going around with cameras to record them breaking into people's homes to find the dead? One reporter said that any family without an ax or a way to break through the roof of their home -- will be found dead in the space between the water and the air space in the attic. Horror of horrors!

Anderson Cooper detailed one family of four found dead today or yesterday. I wonder if he or anyone else will be "allowed" to record the devastation.

This will be the next set of "IRAQ-type coffins" or body bags that no one will get to see...

We'll only know that people will be looking for their loved ones -- maybe forever.

I'm sick...
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:01 PM
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10. We need to demand that
the press have access and record the numbers of dead citizens and they need to be buried with dignity by their families.

We also need to provide a place where people can place the names of the missing over the next year so that everyone is accounted for.

They will try to hide the numbers just as they have in Iraq and as they have hidden the dead bodies of the troops returning from Iraq.

We've put up with enough of their secrecy ~ why? Is this a democracy or not? I am more afraid of my own government than I am of any bunch of terrorists now. These people are sinister and scary. I did not hear George Bush mention the dead. He doesn't mention the dead in Iraq either.

He's going back to the Gulf next week. Probably with more props to stage another photo op and try to save his own sorry career.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:29 PM
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18. DU has had posts on denying news access; also feds want to 'take over'NO
fed takeover means cover up number of dead and evidence of fed failure IMO
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:56 PM
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4. My husband met a doctor at the convention center in Dallas
who is part of the Red Cross disaster team. He was at the Superdome. He said that the National Guard is not allowing the media into some areas of NOLA.

So, yes, I think what you're suggesting is more than possible.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:46 PM
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22. This is absolutely true... I watched a reporter say this live...
I believe it was on Wednesday, on wwltv.com. The reporter was talking to his colleagues and said the NG said 'reporters can't go in' and his colleagues jaws dropped. Before they asked "how?" he just said 'we got in anyway', and quickly continued talking about the status of the Superdome... but the looks on their faces! You could see them looking at each other like 'wtf?'
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:56 PM
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5. I truly think that is why no one will even make a GUESS
truly the desparecidos of our time.

Wouldn't put it past them to try to cover up their horrible incompetence and the 'evidince' that will scream out for justice.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:58 PM
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6. they are already trying to blame the LA governor & NO mayor
and, it is working...
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SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:58 PM
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7. How about someone starting a NO or katrina casualties list
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 11:01 PM by SofaKingLiberal
like the Iraq one.
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magnolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:01 PM
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9. I thought that too...
...when I saw buildings burning. It seemed odd that buildings sitting in water with dead electrical lines would catch on fire. Maybe there's a reason for it. But, the thought that popped into my mind was that they probably tossed a bunch of bodies in there. I didn't used to think like that.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:03 PM
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11. That's kinda what bothers me too...I didn't used to think like that.
But after so many year of dealing with these crooks occupying our White House, such thoughts occur with startling regularity.
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magnolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:13 PM
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15. The only thing that gives me doubt...
...about this is that they are doing the math. They know what the population was. They'll know how many people got out. It's all going to have to add up.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:10 PM
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13. I think a reason why it is SO important that there is no martial law!
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 11:11 PM by calipendence
is that the mayor and the governor can insist on their people have policing power over the city while it is abandoned, or that they have the power of staffing others to meet the demand of fully policing the city. Then THEY have the power to make sure that we get trustworthy police forces, etc. that are monitoring what's going on, to ensure that there isn't any such "hanky panky" going on with federal undercover "clean up" squads that might do this. If they can get it adequately staffed, it would be too risky for the feds to try and do this. That is why it is good that they didn't surrender everything over to FEMA control when Bush tried to pressure them into this. Then we would have to be worried about stuff being done behind our backs I think.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:10 PM
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14. There were very strong rumors suggesting that was the case last year



in the aftermath of the Florida hurricanes. It was said that the fatalities were way understated. And it's a very good likelihood with Smirky's brother as the gov.


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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:21 PM
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17. I don't think so, Chertoff..........
was already "preparing" the American people for the high casualty rate after they've gone through, house by house. Of course, these are victims because they "chose" not to leave; he didn't acknowledge those who had no means to leave.
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magnolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:33 PM
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20. I'm so sick of hearing that!
I lived on the coast of Virginia for 15 years and we had one or two hurricanes a year. If you choose to stay for a mandatory evacuation, for whatever reason...(Usually people want to protect there property.)..it doesn't mean you've waived your right to get rescued. How often do we hear of people who engage in life-threatening activities like mountain climbing. If they get stuck, or hurt, or an avalanche falls on them...we rescue them. No one says...we don't have to rescue them because they chose to be there!
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:31 PM
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19. We will never know how many lives are lost..
The cover up is already in place. Can't you see it?
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:35 AM
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23. Bush can't hide these bodies like he does with our troops, Thousands
of them will be pulled out of houses, cars, make-shift shelters, rivers, lakes, and god only knows where else.

It will take weeks to accomplish this task.

Meanwhile, the questions keep coming. "What if this was a terrorist attack?" "Why did it take so long for people to get help?" Why did Bush* cut funding for the NOLA US Army Corps of Engineers by 71.2 MILLION DOLLARS!!!!! In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war.


Thousands of people survived the storm only to perish because their government spent the first 4 days trippin' over their dicks.

Bush's casualty count will be many time's higher than a category 5 hurricane!!!!!
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