WiseButAngrySara
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:23 AM
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The dead in NOLA will not be accurately counted, and here's why.... |
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A government who refuses to honor their dead heroes of war, will certainly be immune to the honor of dead poor civilians. And with the entire city of NOLA under martail law, and under the reconstructive efforts of Halliburton et. al., let there be no doubt that the actual death toll will not be accurate.
IMHO, I believe that this administration has had its eyes on the 'fat' city for some time now. NOLA is a major U.S. port, supplies 25% of the U.S. oil supply, and is inhabited by many poor, whom they must have known had no means to escape in the event of a flood, because of their malevolent neglect. A city such as NOLA will easily be seized by these evil thugs in a time of war. Do you really think that this current administration cares about the living? Do you really think that we are currently in Iraq because of our love for freedom and democracy? How many innocent Iraqis have died there? We are at war because of oil and Iraq's strategic position. NOLA has oil and one of the most strategic positions in the U.S..
Just examine what they've done to the survivors of NOLA. They kept them without food, water, or communication for almost a week, and then divided them, so as to conquer their spirit of dissent and potential civil disobedience, and to discourage some of them from ever wanting to return to their once beloved city. When, if ever, do you imagine these citizens of NOLA to return? Many dead will be unaccounted for, and that will be by as much design as the design behind the refusal to honor the flag-draped coffins that return for their final journey home. Let there be no doubt that the actual death toll will not be accurate.
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:25 AM
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1. The only saving grace is that the LSU prof |
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predicted at least 10K which will make hiding the death harder... adn also government officials are using thiousands now. My take... I hate to say it, 50K and now that may be a conservative number.
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:28 AM
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2. given the near-nonexistent relief effort 100K is conservative n/t |
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:32 AM
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5. It makes me sick beyond belief...I should say it makes me sick BECAUSE |
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:30 AM
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3. And the mayor of NOLA also, but I no longer trust him for some gut |
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reason. Today in an interview he stated that B* had promised him that "We will rebuild NO into a shining example for the world." Nagin was PLEASED by this! It's total BS, and the mayor seemed more concerned about 'HIS' city than the true displaced citizens that make the city!
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:32 AM
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4. Randhi Rhodes pointed out why he is pandering |
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he needs the help... he knows he does nto pander, no help... he is not the right type of person (this Rhandhi said repeteadly on Friday), She has a point
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:36 AM
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7. You know, if my city was in ruins, I'd kiss Bush's ass, too |
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ya'll may call me names for it.
But if Houston was torn up like New Orleans, and my lips on George's ass would bring it help, I'd be puckering up.
Give the guy his props for speaking out when he did. Things really got going then.
There's a time to speak, and a time to be silent.
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:43 AM
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15. Another good point. I love Houston too. (my hometown) I lived in NOLA |
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in 1994, and I love that city (the people are so dear to me), and I'm in real grief and shock. I can't imagine what I'd feel like if this were Houston. Thanks for your wise perspective.
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:37 AM
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8. That is a good point. Mary Landrieau(sp?) didn't pander recently at all.. |
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but what's so weird about all of this is tht the first timeAnderson Cooper really expressed OUTRAGE at B*, he blasted Landr. for thanking and back-slapping the politicians...God, this is such a tragic MESS. Messopotamia and MessoGulfCoast...Two Gulf Tragedies.
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:37 AM
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9. I think that's the shock talking... |
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I don't think it's that he's not thinking about the citizens...
Nagin has seen people jump to their death in the Superdome... two of his officers killed themselves because they were so dispondent. These people are hanging onto anything they can to believe that they will be able to see their homes again, in some how, some way.
I heard the reporters on wwl when Hastert said "rebuilding NO would be unadvisable" rip him apart. They NEED to know that they have a future city to go home to...
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:47 AM
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17. God, you're making me cry again...it's better to be righteously angry!.n/t |
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Mon Sep-05-05 01:20 AM
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22. It's so horrific... You know... |
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...I was thinking today, maybe the local and state could have done more... but here's the thing: I have no idea if they were counting on the feds to be in there Sunday night to help them! They were asking as far back as Aug 26th...
I have no idea of anything anymore... my brain is so full of disgust and anger... I think I'm going to take a break and go hug my kids, and thank God for my blessings. Peace to all you guys... later!
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Mon Sep-05-05 01:28 AM
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23. Peace to you!...and for the people of NOLA..n/t |
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:39 AM
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Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 12:42 AM by magnolia
Bush will rebuild NO as a shining example, just the way he rebuilt Iraq into a shining democracy!
Nagin needs a good nights sleep.
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:41 AM
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14. Can you imagine what Nagin dreams when he does sleep? |
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does he see the body falling from the Superdome in his dreams?
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:54 AM
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20. if that's the same LSU professor |
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who was using computer models, based on the whole area affected by the storm, he predicted based on the models, 100k.
perhaps 10k+ in NO, (and that is really very low), but statewide (all states) is much much higher.
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:35 AM
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6. The number of "Missing" is going to be high |
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even if they try to be accurate. ;(
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:38 AM
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10. the mayor said on 60 minutes tonight - 50,000 -100,000 n/t |
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:39 AM
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many of the bodies floated to the gulf... never to be found ever again
Some will decompose before they get to them... and some... I hate to share the old trick... well if the whole family is dead... and there is nobody to look for them... they never existed... old trick... and used around the world.
This is an ugly secret I know
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:44 AM
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16. in the storm of 1900 in Galveston, bodies came back |
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when I read your post, it reminded me of what happened on Galveston.
They tried sending the bodies out into the Gulf - and about a week later, they came back.
God, it sounds awful. They had to burn the bodies in huge fires on the beach.
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:49 AM
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18. Yeah depends on the currents |
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it is not a pretty picture, and seeing this tells me... they are gonna try all tricks if you catch my drift
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:56 AM
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21. I think that this is one of the reasons why they waited so long to send |
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help, and then sent everyone in the superdome far away...No onw will want to return, or if they do, and they report missing loved ones, do you think it will rate the nauseating COVERAGE OF ONE SINGLE WOMAN MISSING IN ARUBA?
BTW, I've done some forensic pathology, so I'm aware of some 'ugly secrets' also...but never did I think I'd be so cynical as to suspect my own government of such filth. 5 years of BFEE will do it!
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:38 AM
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11. plus the families have all been dispersed...no one to hold a |
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funeral. (how very sad, this is)...
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:50 AM
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19. For the same reason we're not tracking civilian casualties in Iraq |
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The people of the United States are on a need-to-know basis, and Bush needs them to know nothing.
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