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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:20 AM
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Wow, the look on Poppy's face as he listens to Clinton.
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 09:23 AM by highplainsdem
Clinton brought up his own administration providing more funds for the levees, and his different approach to FEMA, and Poppy looks as though he'd like to kill him. The disgusting laughter from this mostly-GOP audience, which was heard after Poppy said that his son can "take the criticism" and that if anyone criticizes W around Babs they'll "need a flak jacket," ended abruptly when Clinton started speaking some truth, too.
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:23 AM
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1. very impressive
at how he defended his administration, and let it be known that he had criticism of FEMA, while remaining focussed on those who are still suffering.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:30 AM
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12. James Lee Witt, his head of FEMA is very pissed off. Witt said yesterday
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 09:30 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
that he had things in place in 1995 and Bush has decimated those plans.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:23 AM
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2. "He Can't Handle The Truth"
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:25 AM
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3. Well I just hope Clinton starts expressing himself
to these people. I think he set them up. He made them all think he was their friends and got into their club and now he can tell them personally where to go shove it.

I noticed other Clinton administration officials popping out too. This is good. I think they've been waiting for this opportunity.

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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:29 AM
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10. Blanco sent for and hired the former head of FEMA (under Clinton) as
her advisor. He was an excellent leader and many of the top FEMA administrtors are still quietly loyal to him. Brown has tied their hands and these are the people who KNOW what to do at a time like this.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:33 AM
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17. Yes and Al Gore went and got a plane
and picked up a load of people himself.

Now, that's leadership.

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Clintmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:26 AM
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4. Yep...
Clinton was awesome. Poppy was just stupid.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:26 AM
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5. fucking old bastard born with a silver spoon in his mouth....
Out of touch bastard. Compared to President Clinton, raised poor and in touch with our humanity.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:28 AM
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6. Seems to me we would all be better off with a few less Bushs around
how old is that fuckwad anyway?
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:28 AM
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7. Yeah, but he also said
and I paraphrase "I don't know what happened to the funding". Yes you do, we need you to say it. Until you do I've lost what respect I still had for you.
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:31 AM
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13. Well, I know.....and here's where it went:
Sep 1, 6:06 PM (ET)

By RON FOURNIER
<snip>
Just last year, the Army Corps of Engineers sought $105 million for hurricane and flood programs in New Orleans. The White House slashed the request to about $40 million. Congress finally approved $42.2 million, less than half of the agency's request.

Yet the lawmakers and Bush agreed to a $286.4 billion pork-laden highway bill that included more than 6,000 pet projects for lawmakers. Congress spent money on dust control for Arkansas roads, a warehouse on the Erie Canal and a $231 million bridge to a small, uninhabited Alaskan island.

How could Washington spend $231 million on a bridge to nowhere - and not find $42 million for hurricane and flood projects in New Orleans? It's a matter of power and politics.
<snip>
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:02 AM
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30. Right...and it's a fucking OUTRAGE!
.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:28 AM
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8. And here again we have Poppy riding in to rescue his POS son.
My daddy said if you mess with me you need a flak jacket!

Nyah!
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:37 AM
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23. So that's why they're keeping the flak jackets here...
rather than sending them to Iraq. Now I understand. :sarcasm:
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:28 AM
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9. I saw that
At one point, the senior Bush criminal yanked up his head and gave Clinton a filthy look, as though he needed to get back with the program.

They're thugs, the whole gang.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:30 AM
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11. "If anyone criticizes W around Babs they'll 'need a flak jacket.'"
Ironically, Poppy has identified the heart of the problem that he helped to create. George H.W. was an absent father during most of W's youth, leaving the discipline to Babs. W was not held accountable unless he did something that embarassed his parents personally (like asking Babs' good friend at an Xmas party, "So what's sex like after 50?"). Otherwise, he's been given a free pass, has not had to consider the consequences of his injuries, or even feel a decent amount, if any, of remorse. They've protected him and now he feels he's omnipotent. Babs will continue to protect him as he takes the rest of us into the depths of Hell. She is as much of our problem as he is.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:34 AM
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19. "W was not held .."
I'll bet that is true.
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:34 AM
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20. Well said!!!! eom.
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:36 AM
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22. "So what's sex like after 50?"
I bet Laura's been asking the same question
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Field Of Dreams Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:40 AM
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25. LOL!
:rofl:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:44 AM
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27. So he was a rude little shit when he was young too?
:yoiks: Not that I am surprised in the least.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:49 AM
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28. Also might identify W's need to solve problems with violence
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:32 AM
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14. Then Clinton said to Bush Sr.: "I got your back"
And said that it's too early to assign blame. "We had a 9/11 Commission, we may have a Katrina Commission". He said we need to focus on helping the victims over the long haul, which is what Bush Sr. was saying.

IMNSHO, Clinton wasn't playing "gotcha" with Bush Sr., dissing Smirk or anything remotely like that. He was talking about this new charity initiative for Katrina. Nothing else. Partly because (like it's been reported in a number of places) on a personal level, Clinton and the Bushs like each other. Another reason, IMNSHO, Clinton also believes that he needs to be "above the fray", both because he is a former President of the US (rather than President of the Dems) and because he thinks it's a better political strategy for Hillary and the Dem party.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:32 AM
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15. I'm starting to feel a little sorry for Poppy.
Imagine having Dubya for your son. Sort of sends horror careening up and down your spine, doesn't it?

Poppy is much smarter than Jr. and knows very well just how badly Jr. screwed up even though he can't probably admit it even to himself. So like any other parent, he is left with trying to smooth it over for his own peace of mind.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:32 AM
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16. surely clinton heard an earful this week about his earlier CNN remarks
his remarks last week essentially exonerating bush (the lesser) of any responsibility must have been met with the reality of the situation as he learned more.

clinton stood there and said to the world, "ask me, but not now what the hell i think about this fuck up." whewn he said that he has his own ideas about how FEMA should be run it was a cannon ball across bush's bow on this matter. also stating that congress should focus on this insted of "bidness as usual" was a clear strike at the GOP agenda on tax cuts for millionaires.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:33 AM
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18. Take care of yourself ...
The Clinton haters will no doubt be here to flame you when they get that this thread is present. The leftie Clinton haters are as annoying as the right wingers. Hyperventilating hyperbole and the rather odd desire to see our leadership act like street thugs and potty-mouthed children.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:35 AM
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21. Poppy had flashbacks
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 09:35 AM by Jim4Wes
to when his ass was kicked in '92.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:37 AM
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24. Where can I find the transcript? n/t
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:42 AM
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26. Very good job by Big Dog
All Clinton would do by blasting Baby Bush and their incompetence would do is deflect the focus from the victims and to himself. The MSM would be talking about it for the next 3 days.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:57 AM
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29. Agree. At times it's best to skewer your opponent politely,
and he did.
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