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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:32 AM
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"This is not the time to point fingers"
Fuck Them. I am up to here with politicians telling us when the appropriate time will be for asking questions. Do they forget whom works for whom.

Can you imagine telling your boss after a major fuck-up on your part that now is not the time to question, lets just deal with where we are at. Yeah right.

We the People, want answers now. I will never forget what happened to our citizens in New Orleans and I will ask the questions any damn time I want. I am shaking with rage.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:34 AM
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1. they're right
its the time to jail the negligent
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:34 AM
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2. Agreed! Kicked and Nominated! nt
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starmaker Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:35 AM
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3. Middle fingers only
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:30 AM
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25. What you said
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:35 AM
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4. This administration has lowered the bar
of expectations so much, that mediocrity reigns supreme.

Accountability, be damned.

:mad:
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:38 AM
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28. They had their "accountability moment" back in November, remember?
Now they can do whatever they like, and fuck anybody who has a problem with it.
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ptolle Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:47 AM
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29. chimperor -motto
Indeed, the bar was lowered to reduce the amount of hard work, in addition the unspoken motto of this whole maladministration seems to be:You Can't Blame Us When Things Go Wrong Because, No Matter What We Said, We Knew We Didn't Know What We Were Doing."
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:35 AM
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5. oh my gosh
if it weren't for critics, FEMA would have not improved their approach. Imagine the death and destruction if they had kept doing as they were doing?

How sick can they be?
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:36 AM
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6. When the hell is the correct time? Everytime they fuck up, they say
oh we must not question, we must not point fingers, we must be united for the country. Do not question Bush or the republican party, there is no such thing as "debating of an issue", you must do as we say. Remember Scotty's little comment of be very careful of what you say.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:58 AM
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21. Wasn't that Ari the Liar who said that?
Though the two are interchangeable, I'll grant you that.
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:37 AM
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7. I wish there was a stronger word than Rage
We all feel the same way and it seems inadequate. Why is there no recourse for us, where is the leadership of the Democratic party. I'm sure we have all called and e-mailed out senators and reps, anyone think it will do any good? What does it take for those of us who give a damn to make things change. Can someone please tell me???
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:37 AM
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8. When your incompetence is KILLING people...
you don't get the right to tell others when the appropriate time to "point fingers" is. It really is THAT simple.

:grr:
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:37 AM
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9. I concur completely!
Let us not let this debacle fade away without holding Bush and crowd fully responsible. It. Is. Time!!

Tired Old Cynic
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:38 AM
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10. dems/reps are covering for something quite big --- ignotance
is thier objective...
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:38 AM
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11. let this be a lesson to parents.......
if your sons and daughters are never held responsible for their actions you get adults who act like this. And these pukes had the nerve to say "the grownups" are back in charge. Ya, well they are miserable failures and all THEY want to do is point fingers, at someone else. Accountability.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:39 AM
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12. EXCEPT WHEN THEY DO IT
immediately after they say "not the time" for others!

hypocrite bastards
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:40 AM
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13. It proves to me that these people can't walk and chew gum
at the same time.

How many thousands of experts in disaster relief must be out there, who could analyze everything that has happened?

Why can't there be more than one thing going on at a time?

Another disaster could come at any time...so I suppose we'll just have to deal with the incompetence until they decide it's time to get around to figuring out why they keep screwing up. Meanwhile, the death toll will continue to rise.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:44 AM
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14. It is not the time to point fingers...no one really listening. We are all
or at leasst many of us are too concerned about the people who need help. I do think it is very importatnt, though, to keep a talley of the events and situations we need to complain about later.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:45 AM
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15. It's never the time to point finger at the repukes,
however, it's always the time to point fingers at the dems.

This is the most corrupt, hypocritical group of fuck-ups we've ever seen in office.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:46 AM
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16. said the people on the target end of all the finger pointing.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:52 AM
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17. It's time to show them the fucking door!!
Impeach now


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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:54 AM
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19. Also, this should not be politicized - scream!
I just can't stand it when someone comes in and says, let's not politicize this.

People are suffering and dying, and it's goddam political.

Sue
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:53 AM
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18. Greta tried to go there
The first part of the Q&A after the Bush/Clinton fund raising kickoff had Greta VS asking about the criticism. Poppy said the Prez could take it. Then Clinton spoke and remarked that there was flooding in NO during his 1st term and they put together a program to improve the protections, but he "wasn't sure" what had been done after he left office. He knows how to deflect their transparent attempts to blame him and turn the spotlight where it belongs. Then he sat down with the reporters after the press conference was over. Bill might have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:55 AM
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20. If now is not the time, when is?
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:09 AM
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22. That gawd damn MF in the WH...
werkz fer ME. I'LL POINT ALL THE GAWD DAMN MF'N FINGERX I GAWD DAMN WELL PLEAZE.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:10 AM
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23. They have a point there...
My middle digits are cramping... As they've been
extended in their general direction since 2000.

*ouch*
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:27 AM
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24. We need to get to the bottom of this and RIGHT NOW!
American lives depend on it! God knows when the next disaster is going to strike and next time it could be much much worse. Can you imagine if a large earthquake were to hit a heavily populated city and nobody has had the chance to evacuate? Millions could die! Do Americans really want these clowns in charge of their safety.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:55 AM
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26. of course not. the time to point fingers is when DEMOCRATS screw up
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 10:56 AM by unblock
haven't you read unka karl's memo?

:sarcasm:
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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:59 AM
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27. That's a good point.
They work for US, not the other way around. It's time we reminded everyone of that fact. I couldn't agree more, if I fucked up at work, my ass would be on the line. There'd be none of this, "Now isn't the time to ask questions, let's just move on" bullshit."

After seeing what happened in N.O., I don't want to live in this country any longer. I'm so ashamed to be an American. I hope the rest of you can keep the faith.

MojoXN
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Splatter Phoenix Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:53 AM
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30. They must be made to pay, but...
We should get all our ducks in a row first. Line everything up, make SURE it's right and that there's no wiggle room for these bastards to get out...

I'm anxious to see them go down, but suppose in our haste we got, perhaps, even one fact wrong? They could use it to turn the tide against us--if there's one thing they're damn good at, it's spin.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:53 AM
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31. Why the hell not?! Monkeyboy's doing exactly that right now!
Bush team tries to pin blame on local officials

Julian Borger in Washington
Monday September 5, 2005

Guardian

Bush administration officials yesterday blamed state and local officials for the delays in bringing relief to New Orleans, as the president struggled to fend off the most serious political crisis of his presidency.

His top officials continued to be pilloried on television talk shows by liberals and conservatives alike, but the White House began to show signs of an evolving strategy to prevent the relief fiasco from eclipsing the president's second term.

The outrage over the government's relief effort has hit Mr Bush at a time when he is already weakened by the gruelling war in Iraq. The threat is not only to his place in history; it could also cripple his second-term agenda, undermining his plans to privatise the social security system and to end inheritance tax.

<snip>

In his weekend radio address, Mr Bush implied many of the problems had been caused by lower levels of government. The scale of the crisis "has created tremendous problems that have strained state and local capabilities. The result is that many of our citizens simply are not getting the help they need, especially in New Orleans. And that is unacceptable."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5277736-103681,00.htmlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5277736-103681,00.html
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lynettebro440 Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:26 PM
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32. Sure the hell
sounds like blaming to me.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:08 PM
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33. Fuck it - it's ALL about the blame, otherwise known as
responsibility. Admitedly an alien concept to Bushco.
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