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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:41 AM
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No way out - I've been thinking for days - ideas please
I am of the firm belief that this country can not survive this admin un Jan 20, 2009. I have been thinking if we get rid of Bush over Katrina we're stuck with Cheney. If we could get rid of Cheney we're stuck with Hastert. I see no way out - except I was thinking if it can be proven that if Kerry won OH - could Kerry be put into office????

I'm stuck for any other way out - any suggestions
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:56 AM
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1. Short of a
genuine coup, the likes of which I cannot legally discuss on this board, there's little or nothing.

Perhaps this horror could result in the entire top leadership resigning, but because we don't have a parliamentary system, we're only geared up for an orderly transition every four or eight years, not replacement any time in between.

And even though I'm firmly convinced that Kerry actually won in Ohio, we have no constitutional mechanism for having him replace Bush & Co. Keep in mind that both houses of Congress are Republican controlled. Unless sufficient numbers of the Republican "leadership" loses faith and starts demanding resignation or impeachment, nothing of the sort will happen. We'll muddle along for several more years.

Things are only going to get worse.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:00 AM
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2. My head knows you're right
but my heart is desparate to end this nightmare
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:43 AM
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3. You are forgetting Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation
We don't know yet, but he could take them all down.

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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:51 AM
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4. good point ... but here's this thought too
worldcantwait.org
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:01 PM
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5. okay, here's an idea . . .
whether we can stop BushCo depends on how many people are REALLY, REALLY pissed off, disgusted, and ready to take REAL action . . . I have a hunch it's a LOT . . . what we need to do if find a way to channel that outrage into something very specific that will cause the Democrats in Congress to quake in their wingtips and actually stand up to BushCo for fear of the repercussions if they don't . . . we need to put the fear of God into our "representatives" in Congress . . .

for example . . . a campaign to deliver one million hand written (or typed with hand written signatures) messages to the Democrats in Congress DEMANDING that they do one very specific thing . . . for starters . . . (these folks have a grading system for constituent communications, and hand written letters get a 10, whereas an e-mail gets a 1) . . . these people have never SEEN, or even contemplated, one million personal letters, all telling them to do the same thing . . . OR ELSE! . . .

the demand has to be one that reflects the outrage of the moment and finds broad support among the larger American public . . . possibilities that have crossed my mind include:

- introducing Articles of Impeachment;
- demanding a filibuster of the Roberts nomination;
- demanding immediate hearings concerning the BushCo response (or lack thereof) to Katrina (we have tons of evidence of malfeasance);
- demanding repeal of the new bankruptcy law; or
- setting a date certain for withdrawel of US troops from Iraq.

I'm sure there are others . . . the idea is to pick ONE, and move with it, quickly, efficiently, and massively . . . the initiative should involve all of the grassroots organizations from MoveOn to the Camp Casey folks, national organizations like the NAACP, celebrities on tv urging people to participate, and every other tactic known to humankind . . .

the objective would be to exert such immense grassroots pressure that those receiving the letters could do nothing but stand up and say "Yes Sir!" -- it has to be that big, and that powerful . . . the implicit message will be "Since you're not doing your jobs, we're going to tell you what to do -- and you damned well better do it!" . . .

and after we've won the first battle, we'll move on to the next one . . . immediately . . .

yes it's ambitious, yes it's massive, yes it requires people to actually DO something other than signing an online petition or sending a form e-mail . . . but if we don't think that the cause is important enough to actually exert the energy required, then we're not serious about retaking control of our party and our nation and defeating BushCo . . . and we won't have any right to bitch about what they're doing to us . . .


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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:57 PM
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6. I like this idea alot
I have been talking to folks and I really feel that this is the absolute perfect time for the administration to get us the hell out of Iraq - so to take your idea we should be able to put at least two of your suggestions into the first letter. We should contact representatives Dems and repunks alike and state that we feel strongly that the resources being used in Iraq, people, equipment and money has contributed to this disastorous delay and that for our NATIONAL SECURITY we should be moving now on a plan to bring all our troops home and that we demand a full and complete investigation and expect the people responsible for this screw up be held responsible for their actions and lose their jobs - I would also like to figure out a way to throw in something about the bankruptcy bill.

THANK you so much for this idea - it kind of ties together several things I have been thinking about doing and has given me a better focus.
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