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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:49 AM
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Probably the most significant thing Clinton noted in todays statement ...
30% of NO resident live below the poverty line. Feneral aid is set up for property owners, business people, etc. Something HAS to be done to make sure that the poor of NO do not fall between the cracks and end up simply losing everything they had, pitiful though it might be.

The federal government, the state government and the city of New Orleans should step up and make sure that these poor folk do not get robbed in addition to being raped.
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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:51 AM
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1. Clinton and the Bushes are good friends.
Don't tell Americans, Bill. If we controlled how money was spent, we wouldn't be $8 trillion in debt!

Talk to your rich buds in Crawford!
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:55 AM
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2. How is this even fucking relevant to what I posted?
Clinton haters on the left are as bad as those on the right. Hell, I can't tell the difference between the two. The effect is identical. Bullshit slanders and hysterical hyperbole.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:05 AM
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4. You can say that again! n/t
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:08 AM
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8. right on.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:14 AM
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11. As a person who is disappointed in Saint Bill
I'll tell you exactly what the difference is between a person on the right who hates him becasue he's too liberal and a peron on the left because he isn't liberal enough. I am not a Clinton hater - but have been deeply disappointed in his and his wife's opportunist move to the middle/right. But they have an opportunity NOW to redeem themselves and stand up against this disaster and to NOT MAKE EXCUSES for this POS in the WH. I will be the first in line to praise him and her and any DLCer who starts to lead us out of this freaking nightmare that is this current administration - being repunk lite is not going to do it.
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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:22 AM
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12. I'm sick of Clinton's "I'm OK, the Bushes are OK" schtick
Clinton is the Bush family's "credibility lifeline." The minute the Bushes find themselves in a pickle, they run to the guy they slimed for ten years, and Clinton jumps at the chance to bail them out, only to provide the Bushes another chance to screw Americans.

If Clinton wants to donate his millions to the people of Gulf States or play the sax at a benefit concert, good for him, but Bill, don't undo what I've done, which is to work through every legal channel at my disposal to replace this regime. They are not nice people. Let's not pretend they are otherwise.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:45 AM
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15. I am beginning to believe that the people here care more about ...
politics than people and that is a fucking shame.

I am beginning to believe that there is no place at this forum for anything other than the insane party line that is predominating this board.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:48 AM
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16. I figured that out months ago....
Some people are so hellbent on getting revenge that they have lost all sense of reason.:(
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:55 AM
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19. I, too, have suspected it for the longest but ...
I naively kept hoping that they might snap to their senses. I am beginning to believe that they never will.
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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:19 PM
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20. The Bushes getting Clinton on board IS politics
Certainly Clinton is allowed to help in his own way--takes a village and all that. I hope he gives generously of his time and money. But he has been drafted by the Bushes to bail them out of their incompetence. What happened to the days when they were smearing Clinton for bombing an aspirin factory and fellating
"young girls?" Now they need his help. And he obliges!

Is Gerald Ford still alive? Why don't the Bushes recruit him for their PR campaign? Or Jimmy Carter, who would actually be more helpful to the evacuees considering his "Habitat for Humanity?"

Clinton needs to fade away and let the Bushes sink under their own weight.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:22 PM
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21. I am sure he would thank you for the advice and ...
I acknowledge you as well your efforts in PROVING my point exactly.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:55 AM
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18. Bill Clinton understands and knows the American people
He is "of the people" - the bushes do not, cannot and never will nor do they want to understand. The bushes are from an entirely different world than Bill Clinton. And these days - he is a Saint - the American people trust him.
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:03 AM
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3. I deeply feel that
they want to federalize to control what happens in New Orleans. Who is employed to clean up and reconstruct.Then they will use eminent domain and sell bundles off to corporations. They want the golf shore properties to be turned into asphalt and high raises disneyland for the wealthy. The citizens of N O will be disenfranchised, left to fend on their own. f kers. Their intention is to rob them.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:06 AM
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6. Also, information control.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:07 AM
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7. I think that Bill is seeing this and ...
pre-empting it as much as he can. N.O. should not become a fucking Disney New Orleans, as one poster fantasized in a horrifically nasty fable creatively written on this very site.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4613889
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:26 AM
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13. That's what I meant in defense of your
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 10:33 AM by REDSTATELIBERAL
original statement. President Clinton got that word out. He used "Rob" intentionally. To me he was saying that we have to be very leary of anything this administration does.
Sorry for the confusion.
Thank goodness Governor Blanco did not yield to *.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:11 AM
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9. That's the American equivalent of what Somoza did after '72 Managua quake
Somoza made a fortune after that earthquake. Managua wasn't rebuilt and Somoza pocketed or channeled almost every penny that the rest of the world, out of charity, gave to Nicaragua to rebuild.

This was a major contributing factor to the rise and broad public acceptence across all classes of the Sandanista's revolution.
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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:11 AM
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10. My working theory
is that it is not about golf courses et al, but that it is about oil infrastructure refineries, new drilling etc. That's not to say that developers and the like won't also benefit, but I think it is more about oil.
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:38 AM
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14. I agree with the
oil aspect as well. It is all about the whole package. Control of the ports and drilling and on and on.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:06 AM
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5. It was almost like we had a President again.
I hope Congress and the rest were listening. Even Poppy gave a nice introduction giving him credit for quite a bit of the effort.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:55 AM
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17. I heard Elaine Chow ?? say unemployment is available for all
who are entitled and also those that arent. They need to call the number the Houston dome is showing on a screen. I hope all who have been displaced take advantage of that offer...and it should last the whole 26 weeks for all of them...and then be extended. I want my tax dollars to help these folks for as long as it takes.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:28 PM
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22. Max Benefit - $258 week
Lots of folks are going to be in for a RUDE awakening.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:32 PM
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23. Here's a link to the video. Includes the uppercut to DimSon
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