Three words I want to hear out of EVERY Democrat's mouth in reference to *

[Walt Starr]

"Pass The Buck"

That phrase should be on the lips of every Democrat in the nation, because that's PRECISELY what the White House is engaging in.

[senseandsensibility]

1. Glad to see you still have some optimism

and the ability to hope for some kind of cohesive strategy from the Dems......I've lost mine. You are right, of course. They should also be calling * the unpopular president. Although both of these strategies are hardly mean-spirited or untruthful, they are FAR too radical for this group. It will never happen.

[Gloria]

2. LIAR. When will our "leaders" use the word??

[stillcool]

3. i only want to hear one word...

Truth.

[Swamp Rat]

4. Fuck you Bush n/t

[Olney Blue]

8. From someone who really knows......

Hi Swamp Rat!

:hi:

[charlie]

5. Too tepid

I think Democrats should've gone Pete Stark on his ass long ago.

"I don't trust this president."

He said that on the House floor, explaining his nay vote on the IWR.

Check out the rest of his speech, it'll raise the hairs on your neck:

"Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this resolution (authorizing military force against Iraq). I am deeply troubled that lives may be lost without a meaningful attempt to bring Iraq into compliance with U.N. resolutions through careful and cautious diplomacy.

"The bottom line is I don't trust this president and his advisors.

"Make no mistake, we are voting on a resolution that grants total authority to the president, who wants to invade a sovereign nation without any specific act of provocation. This would authorize the United States to act as the aggressor for the first time in our history. It sets a precedent for our nation -- or any nation -- to exercise brute force anywhere in the world without regard to international law or international consensus.

"Congress must not walk in lockstep behind a president who has been so callous to proceed without reservation, as if war was of no real consequence.

"You know, three years ago in December, Molly Ivins, an observer of Texas politics, wrote: 'For an upper-class white boy, Bush comes on way too hard. At a guess, to make up for being an upper-class white boy.'

"'Somebody,' she said, 'should be worrying about how all this could affect his handling of future encounters with some Saddam Hussein.' How prophetic, Ms. Ivins.

"Let us not forget that our president -- our commander in chief -- has no experience with, or knowledge of, war. In fact, he admits that he was at best ambivalent about the Vietnam War. He skirted his own military service and then failed to serve out his time in the National Guard. And, he reported years later that at the height of that conflict in 1968 he didn't notice 'any heavy stuff going on.'"

"So we have a president who thinks foreign territory is the opponent's dugout and Kashmir is a sweater.

"What is most unconscionable is that there is not a shred of evidence to justify the certain loss of life. Do the generalized threats and half-truths of this administration give any one of us in Congress the confidence to tell a mother or father or family that the loss of their child or loved one was in the name of a just cause?

"Is the president's need for revenge for the threat once posed to his father enough to justify the death of any American?

"I submit the answer to these questions is no.

"Aside from the wisdom of going to war as Bush wants, I am troubled by who pays for his capricious adventure into world domination. The administration admits to a cost of around $200 billion!

"Now, wealthy individuals won't pay. They've got big tax cuts already. Corporations won't pay. They'll cook the books and move overseas and then send their contributions to the Republicans. Rich kids won't pay. Their daddies will get them deferments as Big George did for George W.

"Well then, who will pay?

"School kids will pay. There'll be no money to keep them from being left behind -- way behind. Seniors will pay. They'll pay big time as the Republicans privatize Social Security and rob the Trust Fund to pay for the capricious war. Medicare will be curtailed and drugs will be more unaffordable. And there won't be any money for a drug benefit because Bush will spend it all on the war.

"Working folks will pay through loss of job security and bargaining rights. Our grandchildren will pay through the degradation of our air and water quality. And the entire nation will pay as Bush continues to destroy civil rights, women's rights and religious freedom in a rush to phony patriotism and to courting the messianic Pharisees of the religious right.

"The questions before the members of this House and to all Americans are immense, but there are clear answers. America is not currently confronted by a genuine, proven, imminent threat from Iraq. The call for war is wrong.

"And what greatly saddens me at this point in our history is my fear that this entire spectacle has not been planned for the well-being of the world, but for the short-term political interest of our president.

"Now, I am also greatly disturbed that many Democratic leaders have also put political calculation ahead of the president's accountability to truth and reason by supporting this resolution. But, I conclude that the only answer is to vote no on the resolution before us."

[moof]

10. Charlie you should post this as a seprate thread

it needs nore light of day

[charlie]

12. Please, repost if you'd like

Ol' Pete has had it right, right from the start. It wasn't long after this speech that Republicans tried to exclude Democrats from a committee session in a House chamber and he went apeshit. 70+ years old, and he scared those wusses into calling security. They were wailing about their fears of assault. Totally ridiculous.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

15. Demosthenes reborn

What a powerful speech.

[nookiemonster]

6. Why do I have the feeling,

that some "dirty little secret" is keeping the Dems from speaking loudly about this. Why in the hell won't they nail this bastard to the wall?

Bush's fallacy is in the open, what the fuck are they waiting on?

[moof]

14. it's dirty but not that secret. Let's see what happens real leaders ????

[featherman]

7. One word suffices: incompetence

A mantra that should be repeated by all DEMS at every opportunity

[moof]

11. NO!!! it is not incompetence when what happens is what was meant to happen

[I Have A Dream]

9. I think that you're exactly right. Recommended.

This really cuts to the chase.

[The Magistrate]

13. An excellent Line For Agitation, Mr. Starr!

[NYC]

16. Disband Homeland Security.

Those are my 3 words.

But I think it is obvious to everyone that those responsible (Bush, Chertoff, Brown) are passing the buck.